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brooklynite

(94,604 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:30 AM Aug 2020

Perez defends decision to give Kasich, other Republicans a DNC role

Source: NBC News

MILWAUKEE — Democratic National Committee Chair Tom Perez offered a full-throated defense of his decision to give Republicans like former Ohio Gov. John Kasich a prominent role at the 2020 convention, brushing back criticism from progressives who say the former GOP presidential candidate doesn’t represent their party.

“I disagree with John Kasich on issues of real importance, whether it’s women’s reproductive health or the right to form a union. But Ted Kennedy taught me that progress was the search for Venn diagrams,” Perez told NBC News here late Monday after opening night. “The moment that you give up the search for common ground is the moment that governance gets really, really hard.”

“And John Kasich — we have, in that Venn diagram, agreement on a really, really important point which is: The rule of law matters. The guardrails of democracy must be retained,” he said. “The obliteration of those guardrails is where our democracy suffers and becomes extinct.”

Perez's remarks came after Kasich had a remote dustup with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., earlier in the day. After he poked at her “outsized publicity” and questioned whether she “represents the Democratic Party,” the congresswoman tweeted that "a Republican who fights against women’s rights doesn’t get to say who is or isn’t representative of the Dem party."

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/perez-defends-decision-give-kasich-other-republicans-dnc-role-n1237063

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Perez defends decision to give Kasich, other Republicans a DNC role (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2020 OP
Well said. They can't force policy on us, but they can bring in much needed disaffected voters. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2020 #1
Excellent! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #2
Just like in anything True Blue American Aug 2020 #3
I'm in Ohio Marthe48 Aug 2020 #17
It doesn't matter if one likes him or not, dware Aug 2020 #18
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #21
The poster I replied to Marthe48 Aug 2020 #25
I have no illusions about Kasich, dware Aug 2020 #26
Kasich is liked by Republicans. True Blue American Aug 2020 #33
I am with you True Blue American Aug 2020 #29
It was important to have Kasich talk about the character of someone from his own party. dubyadiprecession Aug 2020 #4
Agree! True Blue American Aug 2020 #30
Also, in that exchange, JK seem to be on more solid, constructive, ground. empedocles Aug 2020 #5
IMO, excellent that JK appeared. TruckFump Aug 2020 #6
Yes, indeed. luvtheGWN Aug 2020 #11
I am a big tent democratic voter and fight all attempts of litmus tests for who should be in our beachbumbob Aug 2020 #7
We don't have to be in 100% lockstep, if we did none of us would be married. Happyhippychick Aug 2020 #8
:) True Blue American Aug 2020 #31
:) she says on her 30th wedding anniversary! Happyhippychick Aug 2020 #32
Yes, to the extent that this is war. We must get rid of Trump. mjvpi Aug 2020 #9
Not mostly older frazzled Aug 2020 #16
Thank you for the accurate statistics. mjvpi Aug 2020 #19
This will help get other voter conversions WyLoochka Aug 2020 #10
Could not agree more. This gives republicans a way to get out of lockstep. Pobeka Aug 2020 #14
It was a smart decision, and as it turns out Kasich gave one of the better addresses of the night. George II Aug 2020 #12
This is a brilliant strategy for us. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #13
I'm totally fine with it Dopers_Greed Aug 2020 #15
FFS, Perez was enlarging Biden's supporters, NOT incorporating their no_hypocrisy Aug 2020 #20
Yes. elleng Aug 2020 #36
I saw Christy Todd Whitman DENVERPOPS Aug 2020 #22
Nobody here is claiming them as saints, dware Aug 2020 #24
Yes. elleng Aug 2020 #35
no shit stain repuke gopiscrap Aug 2020 #23
Great attitude. dware Aug 2020 #27
We're a big tent party, they have nowhere to go, we need Main Street Republicans for jobs bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #28
"The moment that you give up the search for common ground elleng Aug 2020 #34
Don't mind Rs speaking, just mind Kasich doing it DeminPennswoods Aug 2020 #37

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
2. Excellent!
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:34 AM
Aug 2020

Ty for sharing!

In a perfect world, there would be no EC & Senate seats would be by population, but this is reality!

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
3. Just like in anything
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:34 AM
Aug 2020

You look for the things you agree on. Kasich is still liked in Ohio. How many do you think tuned in to hear him?

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
17. I'm in Ohio
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:24 AM
Aug 2020

and I don't like him, never have, never will.

He can try to be the face of unity, but I have a long memory :/

dware

(12,416 posts)
18. It doesn't matter if one likes him or not,
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:32 AM
Aug 2020

the important thing is that he, as a republican, is speaking out forcefully against the Mango Menace and if that brings just one more vote to our equation, then I'm ok with that.


We can tell him to fuck off after the election, but right here, right now, we need every vote we can get, rather it be a Dem, Rep. or Ind. vote to evict the Mango Menace and his criminal org. from the WH.

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
25. The poster I replied to
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:46 AM
Aug 2020

said j.k. is still liked in Ohio. I didn't want to be lumped in.

I know the Dems are welcoming anyone who is against the impeached traitor. As far as kasich is concerned, just remember the fable about the old woman and the snake.

dware

(12,416 posts)
26. I have no illusions about Kasich,
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:48 AM
Aug 2020

but, as I said, if he brings just one R vote for Joe Biden, then I have no problem with him speaking at the Convention.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
33. Kasich is liked by Republicans.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:59 PM
Aug 2020

I would never vote for him but if he can pull Ohio across the electoral line I will hold MTP nose and say Amen.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
29. I am with you
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:36 PM
Aug 2020

But I remember Ohio putting Obama over the top and our own Sherrod Brown flying from his Mother’s funeral to cast the deciding vote on the ACA. Sherrod ousted DeWine from the Senate but backed him strongly on the shut down. At times we have to compromise, but I would never vote for Kasich.

If he can pull Republicans to Biden so be it!

dubyadiprecession

(5,716 posts)
4. It was important to have Kasich talk about the character of someone from his own party.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:36 AM
Aug 2020

To contrast that, with the good character and leadership skills of Joe Biden.
We needed that angle of perspective.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
6. IMO, excellent that JK appeared.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:40 AM
Aug 2020

We need UNITY, not division!

If JK brings in just a few dissatisfied Repubes, that's a start.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
11. Yes, indeed.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:02 AM
Aug 2020

Politics is the art of compromise. Senators and Reps in days gone by knew that was the only way to govern successfully.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
7. I am a big tent democratic voter and fight all attempts of litmus tests for who should be in our
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:50 AM
Aug 2020

party, who should be our candidates. THIS Is what makes democrats strong, not weak. I am glad we have some republicans speaking out and support Biden/Harris. AOC doesn't represent THE Democratic party, the democratic party represents AOC and her views as much as a views of conservative democrats which Kasich certainly represents.

mjvpi

(1,388 posts)
9. Yes, to the extent that this is war. We must get rid of Trump.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:58 AM
Aug 2020

But I needed Kasich to acknowledge that by being a powerful part of a party that for years and years has put increasing personal wealth above all else, has built a party where Trump is the logical extension. We have 40% of our population, mostly older and white, who believe in freedom absent responsibility and believe things like their religion can be inflicted on their neighbor. John Kasich, in no small way, helped to build this monster.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
16. Not mostly older
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:21 AM
Aug 2020

Indeed, a plurality of white working-class voters under age 39 support Trump, and the largest percentage of wwc Trump supporters are in the 40-64 category—more so than seniors. Being white and working class is the biggest factor, not age at all.

Table 1: Voting intentions of white working-class voters by age


Voting for/leaning toward Trump
18-39: 55% 40-64: 66% 65+: 62%

Voting for/leaning toward Biden
18-39: 40% 40-64: 32% 65+: 35%

Former Vice President Biden doesn’t hold any special appeal for white working-class voters under 40. Indeed, voters over 65 are more likely to think well of him. Of the 40% of young voters who support Biden, only 5% express approval of him, while 35% say they that they will be casting a vote against President Trump. As Table 2 shows, a plurality of these voters think that the Trump presidency is a failure.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/07/06/president-trump-is-losing-support-among-young-white-working-class-voters/

mjvpi

(1,388 posts)
19. Thank you for the accurate statistics.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:41 AM
Aug 2020

As a 62 year old white guy, I’m even more happy that my country doesn’t look exactly like me!

WyLoochka

(1,629 posts)
10. This will help get other voter conversions
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:59 AM
Aug 2020

Many people are Republicans, not because of policy, but more due to family and community influence. At least up here in the northern Rockies and northern plains. Once they start listening to actual Democratic Party policies and values, a good number will figure out that they are Democrats too.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
14. Could not agree more. This gives republicans a way to get out of lockstep.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:16 AM
Aug 2020

And you are right, many will discover they are actually democrats on the issues.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
13. This is a brilliant strategy for us.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:12 AM
Aug 2020

Although the phrase "Democrats For Reagan" is a quick replacement for Ipecac syrup.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
15. I'm totally fine with it
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:17 AM
Aug 2020

If a single Dem defected and started supporting Trump, they would be all over Fux News and the RNC.

no_hypocrisy

(46,130 posts)
20. FFS, Perez was enlarging Biden's supporters, NOT incorporating their
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:18 AM
Aug 2020

otherwise Republican policies into the Platform.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
22. I saw Christy Todd Whitman
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:30 AM
Aug 2020

and turned it off........She SINGLE HANDEDLY has caused the deaths of countless fire and police who are now getting cancer from the dust Whitman corruptly claimed was okay to breath. She was head of EPA and said no problem, despite her people in the EPA and the USGS screaming their heads off about the horrific levels of Methyl-Ethyl Bad Shit in the dust for miles around the towers.....

I realize that the Dems need to show them to win over other Old Guard Republican voters, but one act doesn't make them saints after helping the RepuliCONs all these years to get the RepubliCONs to the place they are today.......

dware

(12,416 posts)
24. Nobody here is claiming them as saints,
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:41 AM
Aug 2020

our eyes are wide open, but, with our Democracy on the brink, it's very wise to accept any and all help we can get to evict the Mango Menace and his criminal gang from the WH.

As NurseJackie said in another thread, we aren't marrying them.

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
23. no shit stain repuke
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:39 AM
Aug 2020

should ever be speaking at a Democratic Convention. They are responsible for the divisive political culture for the past 28 years. FUCK ALL OF THEM

dware

(12,416 posts)
27. Great attitude.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:57 AM
Aug 2020


We need every vote, be it D, R, or I and I for one, like the majority here, welcome any and all votes for Joe Biden/Kamala Harris and if that means having an R speak out against the Mango Menace and his criminal gang at our Convention, then so be it, we can tell them later after the election to fuck off.

bucolic_frolic

(43,196 posts)
28. We're a big tent party, they have nowhere to go, we need Main Street Republicans for jobs
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:22 PM
Aug 2020

A governing coalition similar to the Progressive Era may well be possible. Let's not nip it in the bud.

elleng

(130,976 posts)
34. "The moment that you give up the search for common ground
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 03:40 PM
Aug 2020

is the moment that governance gets really, really hard.”

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