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ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:14 PM Aug 2020

Democrats Drop Demand To End Fossil Fuel Subsidies From Party Platform

Source: Huffington Post

The Democratic National Committee this week quietly dropped language calling for an end to fossil fuel subsidies and tax breaks from its party platform, HuffPost has learned.

On July 27, officials added an amendment to the Manager’s Mark, a ledger of party demands voted on as one omnibus package, stating: “Democrats support eliminating tax breaks and subsidies for fossil fuels, and will fight to defend and extend tax incentives for energy efficiency and clean energy.”

The amendment was approved. But the statement ― which reflects pledges presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and his running mate, Kamala Harris, each made on the campaign trail ― disappeared from the final draft of the party platform circulated Monday.

In an emailed statement, a DNC spokesperson said the amendment was “incorrectly included in the Manager’s Mark” and taken out “after the error was discovered.”

...

Activists accused the DNC of retroactively removing the amendment from the final draft of the platform.

“This is ridiculous,” Collin Rees, a campaigner with the nonprofit Oil Change U.S., said by phone. “This is a commonsense position held by both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. … The DNC should immediately include it in the platform.”

Greenpeace ranked the DNC platform a C-plus in a new grade set to be released Wednesday, giving the official party manifesto a lower rating than the B-plus proposals Biden and Harris each ran on in the presidential primary.



Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democratic-national-committee-climate_n_5f3c2907c5b6d8a9173f0268?ien

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Democrats Drop Demand To End Fossil Fuel Subsidies From Party Platform (Original Post) ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 OP
Donors don't want it! Dustlawyer Aug 2020 #1
+1000 alwaysinasnit Aug 2020 #22
Inviting Repukes into our big tent has consequences Ponietz Aug 2020 #2
How many republicans were involved in preparing the Democratic platform, do you know? George II Aug 2020 #5
I am not sure it's better if there weren't any involved. nt Gore1FL Aug 2020 #9
I bet it's how many republican lobbyist are involved in the prep of the platform... nt mitch96 Aug 2020 #25
Are we courting a small percentage of Republicans while risking losing all the Progressives? CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #7
Ridiculous. Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #10
I hope you're right. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #21
This is jusr one of the battles coming after the win delisen Aug 2020 #15
This is worse than 2008. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #24
"one of the battles coming after the win" Yeah, but it shouldn't be a battle. Opened and closed. mpcamb Aug 2020 #28
Nah, we're not going to lose the progressives. PatrickforO Aug 2020 #29
I guess I'm still reeling from the mini-wars we had here on DU during the primaries. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #33
Anyone who isn't voting Biden or still needs convincing to do so IS NOT a progressive JI7 Aug 2020 #35
Some folks don't understand or see our all-inclusive tent. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #36
What are you talking about ? those who not sure if they are voting Biden are ok with Trump JI7 Aug 2020 #37
I understand that. We're on the same side. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #38
those types are voting trump. they want Biden to lose. they are not progressive JI7 Aug 2020 #39
One other consideration is the BernieBros from St. Petersburg, Russia. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #42
Absurd. Stop it. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #13
It has nothing to do with Republicans . There are Democrats who hold these positions JI7 Aug 2020 #34
This is outrageous! KWR65 Aug 2020 #3
"Quietly dropped"? It wasn't in the July 21 draft, and isn't in the final draft.... George II Aug 2020 #4
No one is bashing anything, calm down. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #6
Accountable for something that wasn't supposed to be there? Unless I missed it the article... George II Aug 2020 #8
"Wasn't suppose to be there". ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #11
That's not the way it was, nor is it the way it works. C'mon.... George II Aug 2020 #17
Right. The party platform hasn't ever been binding. ancianita Aug 2020 #23
Agree. Accountability is not "bashing." delisen Aug 2020 #16
Exactly. Thank you. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #12
Phantosmia could be a sign of a serious condition. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #18
Did you forget this? George II Aug 2020 #20
LOL! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #30
Love it. One would think that a nurse would know if she had a condition. Hinting she doesn't.... George II Aug 2020 #31
Clearly, a nerve has been struck. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #32
It was never going to happen...however when subsidies taper off, industry has time to adjust Freethinker65 Aug 2020 #14
I think it goes the other way. denvine Aug 2020 #19
Yeah, my post was poorly worded. I meant what you posted... Freethinker65 Aug 2020 #27
I have ZERO problem with this. REMOVE THE MAFIA FIRST. WhoWoodaKnew Aug 2020 #26
To me platforms are pretty much useless. Scruffy1 Aug 2020 #40
Climate is more important than all the other issues combined. jcgoldie Aug 2020 #41

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
7. Are we courting a small percentage of Republicans while risking losing all the Progressives?
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:28 PM
Aug 2020

I'm uncomfortable with this.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
21. I hope you're right.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 06:35 PM
Aug 2020

You usually are. I'm just too nervous about this one. We need everyone on our side.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
24. This is worse than 2008.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 06:43 PM
Aug 2020

I didn't think anyone would want the presidency after Dubya destroyed the economy. But they put up a sane candidate (until he made THAT choice) and we had Obama-Biden.

But now--the ass is up for re-election and everything we knew all our lives about America has been destroyed only after one term by a guy who golfs too much. We might be better off if he golfed 5 days a week and spent weekends at the White House.

mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
28. "one of the battles coming after the win" Yeah, but it shouldn't be a battle. Opened and closed.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:50 PM
Aug 2020

Said and done.
Cowtowing to rich dems lost us the last election.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
29. Nah, we're not going to lose the progressives.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 12:39 AM
Aug 2020

Remember that when the new Democratic majority takes office in January, we will be able to hold their feet to the fire on this issue. Oil and gas has run the show too long already.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
33. I guess I'm still reeling from the mini-wars we had here on DU during the primaries.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:25 AM
Aug 2020

Those were vicious and disheartening.

We can't afford to mess this election up. I'm glad to see Bernie, Sen. Warren and AOC speak at the Convention. Everybody left of Dubya needs to vote blue and avenge Raygun's 49-state victory that time.

I want the pig to sweat orange.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
36. Some folks don't understand or see our all-inclusive tent.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:02 AM
Aug 2020

I lean so far left, I'm always at risk of falling over, but I still check the box for the Dem nominee.

Yep, right down the line--even Mondale and Dukakis.

We'll never get anywhere with this "tastes great/less filling" nonsense that put the homicidal traitor in the WH.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
37. What are you talking about ? those who not sure if they are voting Biden are ok with Trump
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:04 AM
Aug 2020

so they are not progressive.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
38. I understand that. We're on the same side.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:21 AM
Aug 2020

I'm just tired of the pro-Bernie crowd (I was one in '16, but voted for Hillary in the GE) trying to have another mini-war. I'm referring to the posts here on DU during the primaries that upset me so much. I even took time away from here.

They were disappointed over the Superdelegates and thought he got a raw deal (he probably did). Now they seem to want to take their ball and stay home this November (again). Them staying home is not helped by the voter suppression. We need all blue hands on deck.

We can't afford to have factions on our side(s). People need to grow up and vote for Biden. Period.

I may be stating myself wrong, but we really are on the same side.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
42. One other consideration is the BernieBros from St. Petersburg, Russia.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:22 AM
Aug 2020

They steer the ship over on FB. This could be another infestation.

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. "Quietly dropped"? It wasn't in the July 21 draft, and isn't in the final draft....
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:24 PM
Aug 2020

The DNC explained what happened.

Why do we need these Democratic Party bashing articles posted?

July 21 draft:

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-21-DRAFT-Democratic-Party-Platform.pdf

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
6. No one is bashing anything, calm down.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:27 PM
Aug 2020

Holding people accountable isn't "bashing". We only have one planet.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Accountable for something that wasn't supposed to be there? Unless I missed it the article...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:32 PM
Aug 2020

...didn't include anything about the specific "vote" or the "Manager's Mark".

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
11. "Wasn't suppose to be there".
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:40 PM
Aug 2020

"oops, we put something in there to protect the environment, you weren't supposed to see that, our bad".

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. That's not the way it was, nor is it the way it works. C'mon....
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 06:04 PM
Aug 2020

As far as the PLATFORM is concerned, this is much ado about nothing or perhaps not even a valid complaint. Other than anecdotal comments, who even knows what transpired in the Platform deliberations?

On the other hand, the Platform doesn't forbid elected Democrats from pushing for this in legislation and floor debates. It's not an inviolable document.

ancianita

(36,101 posts)
23. Right. The party platform hasn't ever been binding.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 06:37 PM
Aug 2020

It's never had any binding impact on Democratic elected officials or candidates, either.

That purist line of divisiveness needn't even be entertained right now.

The focus should be on winning. Not on internal "issues."

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. Love it. One would think that a nurse would know if she had a condition. Hinting she doesn't....
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:59 AM
Aug 2020

....would be insulting to me.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. Clearly, a nerve has been struck.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:02 AM
Aug 2020

It's good to have confirmation that the target was hit, even when it's in the form of an ad-hominem.

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
14. It was never going to happen...however when subsidies taper off, industry has time to adjust
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:50 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Edited when brought to my attention. Thx

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
27. Yeah, my post was poorly worded. I meant what you posted...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:46 PM
Aug 2020

Start to taper the subsidies and the result will be that industry will adjust.

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
26. I have ZERO problem with this. REMOVE THE MAFIA FIRST.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:39 PM
Aug 2020

Then use a Democratic President/majority to work on these problems.


We can't take 4 more years of the Trump Mafia.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
40. To me platforms are pretty much useless.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 11:13 AM
Aug 2020

Universal health care was on the platform from 1948 but nothing ever happened. I call them a "mother Hubbard". They cover everything and reveal nothing. It's like Trump's opening the ANWR. Bill Clinton opened the reserve next to it in the 90's but no oil companies wanted it. With the price of oil in the toilet it's unlikely that any oil company going to risk billions on a future profit that may never happen. The oil companies may be evil but they are not stupid. I see this as a ploy to put Texas in play. The oil business is flat on its ass and deservedly so but if we can pull some votes from the very red oil patch we can carry Texas as a whole.

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