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mysteryowl

(7,395 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 03:17 PM Aug 2020

White supremacists and militias have infiltrated police across US, report says

Source: The Guardian (US)

A former FBI agent has documented links between serving officers and racist militant activities in more than a dozen states.

White supremacist groups have infiltrated US law enforcement agencies in every region of the country over the last two decades, according to a new report about the ties between police and far-right vigilante groups.

In a timely new analysis, Michael German, a former FBI special agent who has written extensively on the ways that US law enforcement have failed to respond to far-right domestic terror threats, concludes that US law enforcement officials have been tied to racist militant activities in more than a dozen states since 2000, and hundreds of police officers have been caught posting racist and bigoted social media content.

The report notes that over the years, police links to militias and white supremacist groups have been uncovered in states including Alabama, California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Virginia, Washington and West Virginia.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/27/white-supremacists-militias-infiltrate-us-police-report



It sure feels like it.
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White supremacists and militias have infiltrated police across US, report says (Original Post) mysteryowl Aug 2020 OP
fortunately they have union protection and support nt msongs Aug 2020 #1
That is the truth as well! mysteryowl Aug 2020 #2
the reverse is true as well HermitageHermit Aug 2020 #7
Where are you going with this parallel? JudyM Aug 2020 #16
And??? Bengus81 Aug 2020 #20
So...you don't think the FBI and other U.S. intelligence agencies... SergeStorms Aug 2020 #23
+1 geardaddy Aug 2020 #26
Of course they should continue to infiltrate extremist groups HermitageHermit Aug 2020 #35
LOL. Thanks for clearing that up! LOL. I'll bet you're a budding writer! PSPS Aug 2020 #36
Yes, the FBI etc are doing their job, in your example. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2020 #29
Welcome to DU. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2020 #31
Yep, and MPD's Bob KKKroll is the posterchild geardaddy Aug 2020 #24
Systemic Racism. Police have always been infiltrated by racists. cayugafalls Aug 2020 #3
I'd say it's hard to call it an infiltration, when it was built on these types from the beginning. rwsanders Aug 2020 #4
Yep, you got that right. Just insight into the boil. jaxexpat Aug 2020 #15
To paraphrase what Will Smith said about racism, Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #18
I actually dislike it being called "white supremacy," soldierant Aug 2020 #30
I'll second that thought! White supremacy kinda implies all white people which isn't true KS Toronado Aug 2020 #32
Thanks soldierant Aug 2020 #34
Not to mention they have infiltrated the Whitehouse. cstanleytech Aug 2020 #5
And taken over the Republican Party Kaiserguy Aug 2020 #13
k&r for visibility alwaysinasnit Aug 2020 #6
EINSATZGRUPPEN StTimofEdenRoc Aug 2020 #8
No only defunding randr Aug 2020 #9
let's not forget the military - word is Colorado Springs is awash in USAF christo-leptic fascists... bringthePaine Aug 2020 #10
There should be FBI numbers attached to this report. There aren't any. Why is that. ancianita Aug 2020 #11
This Just Provides Support For What I Have Been Saying For Years DallasNE Aug 2020 #12
The police are terrorists pecosbob Aug 2020 #14
Not exactly news... WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2020 #17
I'm not sure who infiltrated who Hulk Aug 2020 #19
and they're probably listening to rw radio in their patrol cars certainot Aug 2020 #21
UnBund The Police! (as in, Ammon Bundy) nt intrepidity Aug 2020 #22
or as in the German-American Bund geardaddy Aug 2020 #27
Perfect then! UnBund the Police! intrepidity Aug 2020 #28
It attracts this type of personality. People who are totally warped to begin with. olegramps Aug 2020 #25
Recommended reading, Kathleen Belew, PhD littlemissmartypants Aug 2020 #33
Kenosha Sheriff David Beth: "We have to get rid of these people." dalton99a Aug 2020 #37
"Warehouse" black shoplifters until "they have perished". This oasis Aug 2020 #42
police ran the KKK or vice versa, in the old days RussBLib Aug 2020 #38
This has been going on for decades at least. thucythucy Aug 2020 #39
Well that was a Upthevibe Aug 2020 #40
Well that was a Upthevibe Aug 2020 #41

mysteryowl

(7,395 posts)
2. That is the truth as well!
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 03:19 PM
Aug 2020

The good news is, if there is any, that society is collectively waking up and calling a stop to this!

HermitageHermit

(42 posts)
7. the reverse is true as well
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 03:35 PM
Aug 2020

The FBI and other law enforcement agents have infiltrated the KKK, American Nazi Party and other similarly white supremacy outfits. When the latest Charlie Daniels sung about "undercover agent for the FBI infiltrating the KKK" in Uneasy Rider, he was speaking to a real fear

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
23. So...you don't think the FBI and other U.S. intelligence agencies...
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 05:26 PM
Aug 2020

have a right to infiltrate domestic terrorist organizations? That's your fear?

HermitageHermit

(42 posts)
35. Of course they should continue to infiltrate extremist groups
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 07:10 PM
Aug 2020

Like they always have.

Consider the cited report, however.

Suppose an FBI agent or law enforcement personnel infiltrates the Nazi Party. Does his duty, works for 10 years or longer inside the organization providing reports on the Nazi goings-on.. The same man progresses in his career, and decides to move on to another detail in his agency- and is no longer working FT on the undercover assignment in the Nazi Party.

To someone who knew the law enforcement officer as a Nazi official , it merely appears as if a Nazi is infiltrating law enforcement. In actuality, it would be the opposite.

And considering the fact that when they moved the first G-Man off of the uncover position, he brought in another G-Man to maintain the presence there, it really gives a different impression than reality


PSPS

(13,609 posts)
36. LOL. Thanks for clearing that up! LOL. I'll bet you're a budding writer!
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 07:25 PM
Aug 2020

Here in the reality-based world, though, there is no shortage of videos showing cops high-fiving gun-toting nazis, stories of their professing nazi allegiances in their social media, etc. But good luck with your screenplay!

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
3. Systemic Racism. Police have always been infiltrated by racists.
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 03:22 PM
Aug 2020

Slave Patrols were started in the 1700's to round up escaped slaves.

Modern policing partially evolved from there.

rwsanders

(2,606 posts)
4. I'd say it's hard to call it an infiltration, when it was built on these types from the beginning.
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 03:25 PM
Aug 2020

A far different thing than far-right groups encouraging members to join the military for free training and actively recruiting there.

I think this is just a view into a festering boil that has been on the country's backside for a long time.

jaxexpat

(6,843 posts)
15. Yep, you got that right. Just insight into the boil.
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 04:24 PM
Aug 2020

I think that some folks don't really want an informed electorate led by temporary representatives chosen from their midst. We don't ever talk about it but probably the most necessary quality of citizens living in a democracy is HUMILITY. For the experiment to work, we must ALL put the good of the whole above our personal interests. And that goes against the grain of capitalism and "rugged individualism" so prominent in the struggle to promote sales. As well as nullifying that scorecard of success, material wealth.
Oh, and cops exist to protect wealth a whole lot more than keep the peace.

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
18. To paraphrase what Will Smith said about racism,
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 05:01 PM
Aug 2020

white supremacy in the police isn't increasing, it's just being filmed now.

soldierant

(6,905 posts)
30. I actually dislike it being called "white supremacy,"
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 05:56 PM
Aug 2020

with the implication that whiyes are better. Yes, I know that's what they think, but it simply is not true (and I speak as an old white woman.) Who'll join me to call it "white pseudo-supremacy"?

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
12. This Just Provides Support For What I Have Been Saying For Years
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 04:06 PM
Aug 2020

Law enforcement hiring practices are highly flawed and need to have major changes specifically to weed out undesirable candidates before putting a gun into their hands. Indeed, it is almost like they go out of their way to locate and hire the very individuals they should be rejecting. That must stop.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
17. Not exactly news...
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 04:59 PM
Aug 2020

The FBI (before Comey et al. were called "scum" ), tried to warn us back in 2006.

http://pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement

"In the 2006 bulletin, the FBI detailed the threat of white nationalists and skinheads infiltrating police in order to disrupt investigations against fellow members and recruit other supremacists."

littlemissmartypants

(22,725 posts)
33. Recommended reading, Kathleen Belew, PhD
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 06:09 PM
Aug 2020

Belew specializes in the recent history of the United States, examining the long aftermath of warfare. Her first book, Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America (Harvard, 2018, paperback 2019), explores how white power activists wrought a cohesive social movement through a common story about warfare and its weapons, uniforms, and technologies. By uniting previously disparate Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazi, skinhead, and other groups, the movement carried out escalating acts of violence that reached a crescendo in the 1995 bombing of Oklahoma City.

Belew is at work on a forthcoming co-edited collection, Field Guide to the History of Hate (University of California Press, anticipated Spring 2020), as well as a new book on gun violence and the history of the 1990s. Her award-winning teaching centers on the broad themes of history of the present, conservatism, race, gender, violence, identity, and the meaning of war.

Belew has held postdoctoral fellowships from the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University (2019-20), Northwestern University, and Rutgers University. Her research has received the support of the Chauncey and Marion Deering McCormick Foundation, the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, and the Jacob K. Javits Foundation, as well as an Albert J. Beveridge and John F. Enders grants for research in Mexico and Nicaragua. She earned her BA in the Comparative History of Ideas from the University of Washington in 2005, where she was named Dean’s Medalist in the Humanities. Her MPhil (2008) and PhD (2011) in American Studies are from Yale University.

https://history.uchicago.edu/directory/kathleen-belew

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oasis

(49,398 posts)
42. "Warehouse" black shoplifters until "they have perished". This
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 03:17 AM
Aug 2020

coming from law enforcement "leadership" in Kenosha.

RussBLib

(9,030 posts)
38. police ran the KKK or vice versa, in the old days
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 08:07 PM
Aug 2020

but suddenly it becomes clear why police killings of blacks has been so persistent.

Like, SNAP!

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
39. This has been going on for decades at least.
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 08:28 PM
Aug 2020

Rage Against the Machine was not talking in metaphors when they recorded this:





Upthevibe

(8,067 posts)
40. Well that was a
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 11:22 PM
Aug 2020

TERRIFYING read Having said that, as others have mentioned, now that things are out in the open could this possibly be the beginning of the end for them? PLEASE....God PLEASE!

Upthevibe

(8,067 posts)
41. Well that was a
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 11:28 PM
Aug 2020

TERRIFYING read Having said that, as others have mentioned, now that things are out in the open could this possibly be the beginning of the end for them? PLEASE....God PLEASE!

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