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OneCrazyDiamond

(2,034 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:22 PM Sep 2020

New York City voters get absentee ballots with wrong names, addresses

Source: USA Today

Voters in New York City say they've received absentee ballots with the wrong names and addresses on their ballot envelopes, adding confusion to how they'll vote and whether their votes will count in the November election.

It's unclear just how many voters are facing the issue but scores on Twitter and in local media reported receiving envelopes to return their ballots which have the wrong names, addresses and voter IDs on them.

Rachel Garbade, 27, who lives in Brooklyn, said the issue "adds more anxiety and fear" about whether her vote will count in an election already plagued with doubts about how the large influx of mail-in votes due to the coronavirus pandemic will be processed and counted.

"I don't understand why something of this level importance wasn't taken so super seriously and errors weren't double checked," Garbade told USA TODAY.


The problem appears primarily centered in Brooklyn after voters in several neighborhoods received their absentee ballots Monday. Garbade, however, said her grandfather, who lives in Queens, had the same issue.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/29/new-york-city-voters-get-absentee-ballots-wrong-name-address/3570961001/



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New York City voters get absentee ballots with wrong names, addresses (Original Post) OneCrazyDiamond Sep 2020 OP
Well ... are they just people who used to live in the residence? mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #1
Later in the art is says: OneCrazyDiamond Sep 2020 #2
Okay thanks ... clarifies that question but raises another ... mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #3
I hear that. OneCrazyDiamond Sep 2020 #9
No - absentee ballots are only being sent to those who requested them brooklynite Oct 2020 #24
"1 in 5 mail ballots rejected in botched NYC primary" PoliticAverse Sep 2020 #4
This plays right into Trumps hands - obviously invalid ballots! nt Earthshine2 Sep 2020 #5
Phoenix Graphics out of Rochester is responsible mainer Sep 2020 #6
Good information, thanks! Another republican setup. George II Sep 2020 #8
There are only a few angry comments on their FB page, so far. Habibi Sep 2020 #13
When it comes to republicans and elections... SergeStorms Sep 2020 #14
sabotage, perhaps? so Trump can point and scream? RussBLib Oct 2020 #22
NYC BOE should have checked all documents before distribution brooklynite Oct 2020 #25
This is ominous. not_the_one Sep 2020 #7
Was Brooklyn's USPS targeted by DeJoy inc.??? ananda Sep 2020 #10
Please see comment #6 - it's not the city's fault FakeNoose Sep 2020 #12
Thanks. So it's a Republican hatchet job. ananda Sep 2020 #15
If I hire a company to do something and I'm managing the contract, I'M RESPONSIBLE brooklynite Oct 2020 #26
OK that's valid FakeNoose Oct 2020 #27
Want to bet they never looked or called to verify. Historic NY Sep 2020 #11
If you received one you correct it by doing this..... BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #16
I find it significant that it targets Democratic precincts mainer Sep 2020 #17
It's two counties in/around NYC. Igel Sep 2020 #20
Russian pre-election dry run? mpcamb Sep 2020 #18
When we got our Virginia absentee ballots, my wife andI scrupulously examined every word for Nitram Sep 2020 #19
Just vote in person, NY has early voting. radius777 Oct 2020 #21
"Phoenix Graphics did not respond to USA TODAY's request for comment" Of course they didn't Bengus81 Oct 2020 #23
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Well ... are they just people who used to live in the residence?
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:31 PM
Sep 2020

If so it makes some sense there'd be a certain % of the time that would happen.

Of course one should be fairly aware of the names of the people that lived there before, I know I sure as hell am, I feel like I know these people I get so much f****** mail for them all.

But despite that ... I've NEVER gotten election related stuff for any of them. Only me.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,034 posts)
2. Later in the art is says:
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:33 PM
Sep 2020

Some voters said the envelope they received was for a person who lived just blocks away or on the same street. The outer envelope that includes their ballots was correctly addressed to them.

In a statement, Michael J. Ryan, the executive director of the New York City Board of Elections, said the error was caused by a vendor, Phoenix Graphics, that was contracted to print and mail ballots to voters in Brooklyn and Queens, the city's two largest boroughs.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Okay thanks ... clarifies that question but raises another ...
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:37 PM
Sep 2020

What the exactly does that first paragraph even mean? The two sentences appear to be contradictory.

Also ... the city should sue the shit out of Phoenix Graphics.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
4. "1 in 5 mail ballots rejected in botched NYC primary"
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:40 PM
Sep 2020
More than 1 in 5 mail-in ballots were rejected in New York City during the state primary June 23, the city’s certified election results revealed this week.

City election officials rejected 84,000 ballots — 21 percent of all those received by election officials. More than 403,000 ballots were returned to election officials, according to city data, but only about 319,000 absentee ballots were counted, the certified results showed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143

mainer

(12,050 posts)
6. Phoenix Graphics out of Rochester is responsible
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:44 PM
Sep 2020

and egad, according to Twitter they also print Trump's campaign stuff. And the owner's a GOP donor in the past.

A mere mistake, or something worse?

Habibi

(3,599 posts)
13. There are only a few angry comments on their FB page, so far.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:41 PM
Sep 2020

As the story spreads, I hope they get blasted.

RussBLib

(9,116 posts)
22. sabotage, perhaps? so Trump can point and scream?
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:06 AM
Oct 2020

Do NOT put that past the GOP or GOP-sympathetic interests.

They have pulled every manner of shit in the past.

I hope there will be a thorough investigation.

brooklynite

(95,523 posts)
25. NYC BOE should have checked all documents before distribution
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:25 AM
Oct 2020

Incompetence has been their hallmark for years.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
7. This is ominous.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:45 PM
Sep 2020

If NYC can't get it right....



These people may have to go to a poll and actually vote. They can bring the ballot with the errors with them to turn in.

Keep copies of everything. We must help each other out, and if they are a senior citizen, like me, they may need it. (although I don't.) It is ok to get assistance.

It TAKES A VILLAGE, people.

FakeNoose

(33,402 posts)
12. Please see comment #6 - it's not the city's fault
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:33 PM
Sep 2020

... nor is the Postal Service to blame.

The printer from Rochester botched this up, and it's the same company that prints Chump's campaign materials. They stuffed the personalized ballots into envelopes that were addressed to different recipients. So each person received their envelope with the wrong ballot inside. Now the printer will probably say there's not enough time to print and mail another set of materials.


FakeNoose

(33,402 posts)
27. OK that's valid
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:38 AM
Oct 2020

I used to work in direct mail advertising once upon a time, many years ago. In fact I was a production manager and I handled outsourcing of printing and matched-mailing contracts to outside vendors.

I hear you, the vendors must show proof that they did their job correctly. and if they haven't done it right then MY job is on the line. However in these weird times of the pandemic I doubt very much that the vendor in Rochester allowed customers on their shop floor to oversee their projects. And I doubt that any production manager from Brooklyn (or somewhere in the NYC area) was able or willing to go to Rochester to oversee what should have been a routine matched-mailing program.

These companies do this type of work all the time, that's why they get awarded those contracts. This company Phoenix Technologies, I don't know anything about them, but they majorly fucked up. It has to be deliberate and politically motivated, that's all I can say. Maybe the night manager is a raving Chump lunatic, I don't know. There's going to be a huge liability issue and they are at fault.


Historic NY

(37,496 posts)
11. Want to bet they never looked or called to verify.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:21 PM
Sep 2020

[link:https://voterlookup.elections.ny.gov/|]

[link:https://nysdmv.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/926/~/how-do-i-find-out-if-i-am-registered-to-vote|]

[link:https://howto.vote/register/en/ny.html|]


For cripe sake and they probably tossed the yellow card from the BoE.

If you move, don't expect them to know where you are, if you didn't change the address on your Drivers license, don't expect them to know where you live.Like wise with your vehicle registration. If you haven't voted in the last 4 yrs or longer don't expect them to know where your live, you could have been purged.

Ps if you don't have a computer the NYPL has hundreds.

BigmanPigman

(51,808 posts)
16. If you received one you correct it by doing this.....
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 08:18 PM
Sep 2020

New York Magazine (@NYMag) Tweeted:
Here's what to do in New York City if you received a mislabeled envelope with your absentee ballot: https://t.co/bseznrYK1X


?s=20And

mainer

(12,050 posts)
17. I find it significant that it targets Democratic precincts
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 08:40 PM
Sep 2020

and mostly Democratic votes would be considered spoiled and rejected.

This was a no-bid contract to a company that either---

-- Made mistakes due to carelessness
or
-- assumed their "mistake" would go unnoticed.

Nitram

(23,369 posts)
19. When we got our Virginia absentee ballots, my wife andI scrupulously examined every word for
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:07 AM
Sep 2020

errors. We found none, and we I dropped our ballots into the ballot box at the county office.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
21. Just vote in person, NY has early voting.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:40 AM
Oct 2020
https://www.nbcnews.com/planyourvote

Most states have a site to check your voter registration and lookup polling place. In any state that has early voting people should just go in on a quiet day and wear proper PPE.

States that have typically not used mail-in voting are clearly going to have issues, as they are 'learning on the job', which is worrisome in such states that are swing states.

Bengus81

(6,965 posts)
23. "Phoenix Graphics did not respond to USA TODAY's request for comment" Of course they didn't
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:17 AM
Oct 2020

They didn't want to be asked about the owner being a Trump supporter.

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