Lindsey Graham: If Trump concedes election, Republicans will 'never' elect another president
Source: The Hill
"If Republicans don't challenge and change the U.S. election system, there will never be another Republican president elected again," Graham said Sunday on Fox News. "President Trump should not concede. We're down to less 10,000 votes in Georgia. He's going to win North Carolina. We have gone from 93,000 votes to less than 20,000 votes in Arizona, where more more votes to be counted."
Every major news network and The Associated Press on Saturday projected Joe Biden as the winner of the 2020 race for the White House. Trump has said he will not concede, alleging widespread voter fraud led to tens of thousands of illegal ballots being cast against him.
The Trump campaign has provided no evidence to back up the president's claims.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/525063-lindsey-graham-if-trump-concedes-election-republicans-will-never-elect-another#.X6i0orU-5nE.twitter
He makes this sound like a bad thing...
rustysgurl
(1,040 posts)Lindsey doesn't do maths well.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)dchill
(38,484 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)elleng
(130,895 posts)of course it's b.s.; 'civility' MAY prevail, some time in the future.
C_U_L8R
(45,001 posts)Maybe if they actual evolved along with the rest of the world and genuinely helped more than a handful of billionaires, they wouldn't find themselves falling off the cliff of total irrelevance.
SomewhereInTheMiddle
(285 posts)I think it may be inaccurate to call the party that got the second highest number of votes cast in a presidential election ever to be totally irrelevant.
I am very glad that Biden won. I am happy that more people voted in this election than in any other in US history. I am distressed that almost half - 70million+ people decided Trump was the better choice.
Biden won, but that doesn't make the GOP irrelevant. The fact that down ticket races did not, in many cases, reflect a dissatisfaction with the Republican party means they are not going away.
We won. Yeah! But we need to keep a realistic view of what that means and not fall into hubris, thinking that now we have a mandate to push forward the Democratic agenda without resistance.
The White house was a tight race - one that is still not fully over if Trump decides to resist though legal and electoral means. The Senate is still up in the air.
We still have a long fight ahead. Lets keep that in mind.
PS - Not picking on you or your post in particular. I have just been seeing a lot of people voicing the same basic sentiment. Yours was simply the one that finally sparked my response.
C_U_L8R
(45,001 posts)It seems demographics and culture have/had been moving away from Republicans at lightspeed. So when you see a result like what just happened, it makes one question everything. We should understand. But I still don't think Republicans have a very solid longterm proposition.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)listeners that if you were poor, and voted republican, you would end up rich. These days I imagine it is probably more like, vote democratic and you will end up in a socialistic/communist country.
DBoon
(22,363 posts)promise?
You swear that honestly counting the votes means we will never have to suffer another Nixon, Reagan, Bush, or Trump?
olddad65
(599 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)A 34% approval rating in KY, and he wins that big??? I call bullshit.
I know this may make me sound like a Trumper whining, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em.
johnnyfins
(819 posts)...Miami/Dade is suspect too. Along with other places. I hope cheeto accidentally blows the lid off Republican cheating while he tries to have the courts select him.
AdamGG
(1,291 posts)McGrath was a great candidate, but all indications were that McConnell would win.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)McConnell, no doubt, has a well oiled machine down there, and they find votes as needed.
Yes, I accuse them of election fraud, and cooking the books just enough to get by.
I also suspect there was GOP election corruption in other places, but they still came up short.
There were just too many Biden voters, and/or potential Trump voters who've had it, and stayed home.
burrowowl
(17,640 posts)doc03
(35,328 posts)groundloop
(11,518 posts)And who the fuck would put Lieberman in front of a camera?????
sandensea
(21,627 posts)The neocons' most useless tool.
I'm just here for the bribe
maddogesq
(1,245 posts)Seriously WTF? Hes even less relevant than Newty.
AdamGG
(1,291 posts)Back when this 4 year nightmare was just beginning, so I guess it's appropriate to bookend him and trot him out at the end.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)groundloop
(11,518 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)He knows how vengeful dotard is.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)Turbineguy
(37,324 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)TryLogic
(1,723 posts)A place to start looking: Who got in touch with Graham during a break at the Kavanaugh hearing?
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)Repubs have a perpetual advantage with electoral college math. For POTUS, Dems, will always have to win by large margins to take the White House.
It took someone as low, profane, corrupt, ineffective, bigoted, and in every other way flawed as Trump to lose to a Democrat. And still it was a close vote.
A super clean, transparent, empathetic, educated and brilliant Democrat makes one misstep and dives in the polls for weeks or even months. But, an evil, homophobic, klan-tolerant Republican goes only two days without tripping over his dick - and he soars in the polls.
This country is broken. The high percentage of the vote that went Republican after all that has happened in the last 4 years proves it.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)They know the American system for electing a president is biased towards them (electoral college), for electing the senate (smaller states have the same power as populous ones) and the House (gerrymandered districts, kept in place by the existing gerrymandered districts). And all that gives them a bias in the courts too, because they get to appoint more judges.
So when a situation comes along which should have been a landslide defeat for them, but the system protects them, they can't just say "oh well, maybe we should choose a candidate who actually cares about Americans next time"; they have to blame the system. They don't want Democrats to be able to point out the flaws in the system.
Efilroft Sul
(3,579 posts)Piasladic
(1,160 posts)He must lick his finger every morning to see which way the wind blows.
Though, I wonder... that first time he went golfing with Trump... WHAT do they have on him that can afford such utter acquiescence? It cannot be queerness... can it?
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)marble falls
(57,080 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Citizens are infinitely more aware of how our democracy works. Think of what we didn't know even 15 years ago. The tools available to the minority to control the majority - Electoral College, money in politics, Senate rules, complicit stooges in the press, PACs and dark money.
So yes, I would say the Republican Party is in its death throes as far as the ability to elect presidents who thwart the will of the majority of the people. Knowledge is now power, and the truth shall set you free.
Stock markets do the same thing - the masses always lose, but we're starting to figure that out too. What will elites do?
groundloop
(11,518 posts)The repub party was in its death throes after Nixon..... then Saint Ronnie stole the election from Jimmy Carter by making a deal with Iran to hold our hostages until after the election.
The repub party was in its death throes after Shrub ruined the economy. It took President Obama (and President-Elect Biden - I love the sound of that) years to get our country straightened out from that, but Moscow Mitch put roadblock after roadblock in the way and managed to keep anything substantive from being done in the final years. That, all the bullshit they threw at Hillary Clinton, and help from Russia gave us the nightmare of the last 4 years.
Nope, the repub party isn't in its death throes. So long as there are greedy rich men willing to cheat the system to get even richer the repub party will be alive and well. And greedy rich men will always have superior resources to game the system.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)the repub party will be alive and well. And greedy rich men will always have superior resources to game the system."
Sad but true - as far as I can tell.
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)I think after the war years, the longest for the presidency has been 12 years. And for one party control of presidency and both houses, I think in recent memory it has been two years (?).
I think the exodus of Trump will be a milestone for the Republican party.
lastlib
(23,224 posts)Where do I sign???
(sorry, we don't have a handshake emoji..... will this do?)
disalitervisum
(470 posts)You know, it must really suck to be a conservative. Always afraid of new things. Always afraid of old things. Always telling everyone else that they have to be afraid of new things and old things. Always living in fear. Who the fuck raised Americans to live in fear?
Lock him up.
(6,928 posts)nilram
(2,888 posts)get rid of the electoral collate? Thank-you, Sen Graham! High-five!
johnnyfins
(819 posts)...being pissed about none of his allies coming to his aid. Now his family pet is right there. You think he threatens AND bribes Lindsey? Or just threatens? What pond scum...
Orrex
(63,208 posts)turbinetree
(24,695 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)You could call it , lets see... um the Asshole party...that works!
Rebl2
(13,498 posts)Republican president. Fine by me.
disalitervisum
(470 posts)I just sent a fuck you forever message to this filthy whore's website I hope he reads it and tries to prosecute me for exorcising freedom of speech. Fuck you Lindsey Graham you filthy fucking cocksucking trump whore. piece of shit. I lived in South Carolina you are a criminal FUCK YOU.
You know, senators can have people killed. Who's being naive now?
disalitervisum
(470 posts)to Lindsey Graham: go fuck yourself you filthy fucking whore. How dare you besmirch the people who defend you.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I suspect that millions of Democratic voters would agree as well.
Magoo48
(4,708 posts)Woodwizard
(842 posts)Maybe you guys are doing something wrong Lindsey?
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)Oneironaut
(5,493 posts)Well just make sure only those who support them can vote! The rest of you, shut up and bow to your new overlords!
mdbl
(4,973 posts)Just like the a-holes in the senate that voted to keep an awful person like trump in the white house, SC voted to keep Lindsey Graham in a position to make America weird again. Thanks a lot South Carolina. You screwed up again!
Chrisdutch
(70 posts)And the problem with that thought is exactly what Lindsey?
abakan
(1,819 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)JustFiveMoreMinutes
(2,133 posts)... then I hope LG is correct.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)Why do the networks give the blithering ninny airtime?