Former adviser to Gov. Andrew Cuomo alleges he sexually harassed her 'for years'
Source: NBC News
A former adviser to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo accused him of sexual harassment Sunday, alleging that the behavior went on for "years."
In a series of tweets, the woman, Lindsey Boylan, who worked as deputy secretary for economic development and special adviser to the governor from 2015 to 2018, said Cuomo "sexually harassed me for years."
"Many saw it, and watched," Boylan said. She did not name people who could corroborate her claims.
"I could never anticipate what to expect: would I be grilled on my work (which was very good) or harassed about my looks. Or would it be both in the same conversation?" said Boylan, a Democrat running to be the Manhattan borough president. She did not provide further details or more specific allegations.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/former-adviser-gov-andrew-cuomo-alleges-he-sexually-harassed-her-n1251048
I'm just the messenger.
snowybirdie
(5,239 posts)about a woman's looks is pretty mild. Grabbing a pu. y is. Perspective folks
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LizBeth
(9,952 posts)did have these types conversation. Age and privilege about guarantee it and most women have experienced it somewhere, and most have watched.
healthnut7
(249 posts)brush
(53,872 posts)And Al Franken? All prominent Dems in the spotlight.
Roy Rolling
(6,936 posts)Thats why they try this shit over and overthe people they target have no situational awareness. They believe the situation described by their cult hero, not what they perceive with their own eyes and ears.
niyad
(113,581 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...you fired, sued or both.
Oneironaut
(5,525 posts)When its your boss, and your job is on the line, it can cause someone to feel trapped and helpless. There is nothing mild about workplace sexual harassment, or sexual harassment at all, for that matter.
I think Cuomo should be given the benefit of the doubt. However, your comment is incorrect.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)and receiving criticism about your job performance regardless if you personally think you did a good job is generally not it.
Edit: I will also point out that if it was ongoing for years then it is a bit odd that in this day and age of small electronic devices such as cellphones that she does not offer up a recording of something he did that would qualify.
colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)to come to the conclusion that she was harassed, and even longer to report it.
AZ8theist
(5,501 posts)"Coincidence" takes a lot of planning.....
PSPS
(13,616 posts)vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)a good choice and it appears she is very involved in the Democratic party, so she may be trying to head off a disaster in the making.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)allegations should be undertaken with her giving a sworn statement under oath first off.
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)I am sure someone will be contacting her.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)from any legal standpoint.
For her to keep working for three years and not resign in protest is also a tell.
Deuxcents
(16,351 posts)For years of harassment, Im wonder why any woman, in any position doesnt file a complaint and/or leave. I hope this woman is not mistaken n if she is , she needs to be exposed. Being a woman does not automatically mean shes right..even in me, too. Lots of elected have surprised us, but if anyone is gonna fling accusations..ya better be right . Dont make the rest of us irrelevant... make your case.
still_one
(92,419 posts)time she is running for a political position in Manhattan does make me wonder why she didn't bring this up when she was running against Nadler in the primaries, or even earlier
Skittles
(153,193 posts)I attacked any moron who dared to f*** with me - I didn't put up with it for YEARS and then start whining about it.
oldsoftie
(12,612 posts)still_one
(92,419 posts)ran again Nadler in the primaries, and was supported by the Justice Democrats
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)drray23
(7,637 posts)Gov Cuomo is now being talked about being a contender for AG. Hopefully there is nothing to these accusations. It would not be the first time we jump to conclusions head first just to realize later the credibility of the accuser was suspect. Now obviously, if it does turn out to be legit Cuomo will have to face the consequences.
brush
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Lauer, Weinstein, Rose, Halperin, Spacey, Louis CK and all the rest were exposed? Or when he so prominently was briefing the nation daily on TV on NY's covid crisis?
I'd say she's got to prove these allegations. And she's running for Manhattan Borough President, and this helps how?
Find it odd. Why did she stay at the job so long and say nothing. Sorry, but I have felt this way for a long time. I can understand a child or young adult not speaking up because they are scared, but not an older woman or man for that matter.
JI7
(89,274 posts)What she said so far seems like more of an old fashioned male thing where they compliment women on their looks. And other ways guys can talk at times.
brush
(53,872 posts)I mean she didn't say he was groping her or hitting on her to go to bed with him. IMO she's got an agenda that will come out. I mean who makes these kind of reputation and career ruining allegations and then says she doesn't want to discuss it further?
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)There is your agenda.
You are right -- she was never sexually harassed -- there was at the most a hostile work environment if her looks were criticized - but "sexual harassment" requires touching or repeated pursuit of a sexual relationship.
R B Garr
(16,985 posts)Btw, this post looks legit so it stays...
pandr32
(11,617 posts)AKing
(511 posts)Then she adds that she was "angry to be put in this situation at all." Huh? She's tweets a serious accusation and then gets upset because people want to know more??
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)Someone from Justice Democrats wants to run for a state-wide office so this .. 4 years of harassment and she didn't complain even once before? She was supposedly an advisor -- which is not exactly a subordinate.
You can guess who
SunSeeker
(51,724 posts)Cha
(297,698 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)Boylan abruptly resigned her state job following scrutiny of her own conduct in the workplace including allegations of harassment, according to personnel documents obtained by The Post.
According to an internal memo from September of that year, three black employees went to state human resources officials accusing Boylan, who is white, of being a bully who treats them like children.
Confronted with that and other workplace misconduct allegations including that she let her travel expenses pile up to the tune of $8,000 before reconciliation, and told a subordinate shed accept her resignation without consulting human resources in a subsequent sit-down with state honchos, Boylan voluntarily resigned her post, the documents indicate.
Days later, she had a change of heart and requested her job back, a third memo shows, but she ultimately moved on.
[link:https://nypost.com/2020/12/13/lindsey-boylan-alleges-cuomo-sexually-harassed-her-about-looks/|]
Cha
(297,698 posts)According to an internal memo from September of that year, three black employees went to state human resources officials accusing Boylan, who is white, of being a bully who treats them like children.
Confronted with that and other workplace misconduct allegations including that she let her travel expenses pile up to the tune of $8,000 before reconciliation, and told a subordinate shed accept her resignation without consulting human resources in a subsequent sit-down with state honchos, Boylan voluntarily resigned her post, the documents indicate.
Days later, she had a change of heart and requested her job back, a third memo shows, but she ultimately moved on.
MFM008
(19,820 posts)Appointing him to his cabinet.
All i will say is...
Interesting.
dsc
(52,166 posts)which means, she provides some names of the witnesses she claims saw this. The details get looked into, and if he did this, he needs to go. She doesn't have a right to simply have her word be the final say.
still_one
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brush
(53,872 posts)Actually it's years late too, just like the woman who just make years-late allegations against Cuomo.
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brush
(53,872 posts)atreides1
(16,093 posts)Name one single Democrat who can claim to be pure as the driven snow?
melman
(7,681 posts)Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)People of a certain political persuasion also believed Tara Reade and paraded her around as credible -- until it all blew up in their faces.
This will too.
melman
(7,681 posts)I'll take it.
I am of the persuasion that believes victims. Guilty as charged.
Hav
(5,969 posts)If he behaved like an ass, people will judge him accordingly.
But yes, people of a certain political persuasion believed all the deranged bs against Biden because they wanted to in the hope it would help another certain candidate and not because they cared about actual victims.
To believe everything without also caring about evidence or verification is at best gullibility.
ahoysrcsm
(787 posts)Every last one. Book deals be damned, we must investigate!
Cha
(297,698 posts)paid no attention to the Proven LIES spewing out of tara reid's gd head.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)I understand the position of believing people and investigating.
But how can you or anyone else determine guilt without an investigation or proof? I dont get it.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)Until then......
oldsoftie
(12,612 posts)AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)She never says Cuomo touched her or forced any social relationship on her.
He only (allegedly) commented on her looks -- which is a hostile work environment case but definitely not sexual harassment.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)mac56
(17,574 posts)AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)so ... she is automatically believed by some
niyad
(113,581 posts)Maine-i-acs
(1,501 posts)he's not yet in the slammer for federal wire fraud charges IIRC.
Raven123
(4,872 posts)Contact the accuser, Investigate and report.
Lonestarblue
(10,085 posts)God, Im tired of this shit.
bringthePaine
(1,733 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)The timing of this announcement seems suspicious to me. I saw how fast the Roger Stone machine took down Al Franken. No one asked about the context or Due Process. The internet spews 10,000 lies for every truth I am told. While the math may be suspect the real effect is just as devastating.
I will believe it when there is sworn testimony and evidence pursuant to filing charges.
I say this having seen how the system treats those who fight to be heard about abuse of many kinds. I say this having sat in court in front of a federal judge and heard him and the prosecution distort and misrepresent evidence that I knew by heart because it was my life story they were mangling.
I believe she should be heard in full, as well as anyone who will stand witness to the events. I believe he has a right to be heard also.
I also believe we live in a 2020 world that seems to have more versions of alleged truth than there are stars.
I also know that when the media presents truth as it appears among the powerful, and truth among we ordinary people, it can be hard to see the real behind the hype, and context is often shredded in pursuit of a juicy headline or winning the next 5 minute news cycle.
ahoysrcsm
(787 posts)Every last one. Book deals be damned, we must investigate!
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Stuart G
(38,448 posts)Canoe52
(2,949 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,219 posts)Stuart G
(38,448 posts)If someone is going to accuse a person who will be the President of the United States in about a month, I think everyone needs that word..."PROOF"....This is a very serious accusation, and we need to know all the facts. Since this is coming at a very important time in the transition, PROOF is even MORE IMPORTANT....
This could be the start of a war the republicans will wage against President Biden.
This way the accusation is out there & they (republicans) can follow up....and they will follow up ....FOREVER.. I will never forget.........".Hillary's Emails."
Yes, I want to believe the accuser, but why now?..And where is the ...PROOF...and the details...Also, this would take the focus off the ...Fool Donald Trump..(we all know that ) and start the focus on "..Bad Joe Biden"...
Again...Why Now?...and Where is the Proof?
Miigwech
(3,741 posts)woodsprite
(11,927 posts)Cha
(297,698 posts)for reade? She ended up getting castigated for her Proven LIES.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Who put her up to this? Wohl? Project Veritas?
Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)The same folks who brought you Ghouliani's 24/7 tirades and who are paying for and organizing all of the "legal challege" nuisance lawsuits, who energized, nationalized, coordinate and direct the Proud Boy invasions.
The FBI needs to go after ALEC and CNP for RICO Act violations as they did the KKK.
George II
(67,782 posts)....how many times I was harassed in my 40+ career.
"Grilled on my work" - there is something called periodic performance reviews. I probably averaged two per year, so that's at least 80 cases of "harassment". Plus, if I screwed up, which happened a few times over the years, I was "grilled" on my work and told to correct it.
"Harassed about my looks" - I'm 5'-9" and 135 pounds, started balding at about 25 years old. Think about it!!!
"Many saw it, and watched" - curious no one else has mentioned anything about this.
The kicker is - she talks about this openly on Twitter (huh??) but has no interest in talking about this with journalists.
Sorry Lindsay, I don't buy it.
I think that with this she just torpedoed her bid to be elected Manhattan Borough President.
dai13sy
(340 posts)Why is it that Democrats can't wait to shoot themselves or another Democrat in the head? I am sick of this. And why did you wait until now to report it to everyone. If this started in 2015 - report it in 2015 when it could be proven true or false. And why is there no one to corroborate your "story?" Maybe Gov. Cuomo did not share your belief that your work was "very good." If this is your way of running for office, please don't!!
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)first she doesn't was to talk to journalist but does puts it all out there... Its like a Tara Reid replay
Earlier this month, Boylan had also tweeted about her work experience in the Cuomo administration, listing it as the worst job she ever had.
I tried to quit three times before it stuck. Ive worked hard my whole life. Hustled fake it till you make it style, she wrote. That environment is beyond toxic. Im still unwrapping it years later in therapy!
Personnel memos written in 2018, obtained by The Associated Press, indicate that Boylan resigned after she was confronted about complaints about her own office behavior.
Several women complained to Empire State Developments human resources department that Ms. Boyland had behaved in a way towards them that was harassing, belittling, and had yelled and been generally unprofessional, wrote the administrations ethics officer, Julia Pinover Kupiec in one memo.
Boylan resigned after meeting with officials including Cuomos top lawyer, Alphonso David, to be counseled about the complaints.
David said in a follow-up memo that Boylan had contacted him several days later and said she had reconsidered her resignation and wished to return to work, but he discouraged her from doing so.
[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/former-development-aide-accuses-cuomo-of-sexual-harassment/2020/12/13/c7059b32-3d72-11eb-b58b-1623f6267960_story.html|]
Hav
(5,969 posts)This really does sound like Tara Reade Part 2.
When I started reading her account, the only thing that raised the alarm bells was the part about "I was grilled about my work (which was very good)". That is the kind of remark a bullshitter would make.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)but I don't see him dressing her down, a politician yes. For people that don't know NY State has two Governor offices. She mostly work in NY C Area according to her bio.
She seems upset about in the second article in the post. Perhaps it was this...
[link:https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/03/23/old-hands-return-to-aid-cuomo-during-crisis-1268744|]
LisaL
(44,974 posts)but resigned because people were complaining about her own behavior?
JI7
(89,274 posts)Greybnk48
(10,176 posts)He's tough as nails. He won't succumb to this tired bullshit.
edited to add: Someone needs to check her money accounts to see who paid her and how much.
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I'm not sure your post supports Democrats.
Regardless, if the woman has a complaint, she has recourses. Let's see if she avails herself of them.
You might consider that the timing of her statement is rather curious, to say the least.
niyad
(113,581 posts)Tiger8
(432 posts)...dirty up the democrats and boost chances of a republican governor, who could pardon their "greatest" resident.
Call me cynical, but Trump has to be scheming up ways to stay out of jail in NY.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Right when hes been considered for AG.
mackdaddy
(1,528 posts)Personnel memos written in 2018, obtained by The Associated Press, indicate that Boylan resigned after she was confronted about complaints about her own office behavior.
Several women complained to Empire State Developments human resources department that Ms. Boyland had behaved in a way towards them that was harassing, belittling, and had yelled and been generally unprofessional, wrote the administrations ethics officer, Julia Pinover Kupiec in one memo.
Boylan resigned after meeting with officials including Cuomos top lawyer, Alphonso David, to be counseled about the complaints.
David said in a follow-up memo that Boylan had contacted him several days later and said she had reconsidered her resignation and wished to return to work, but he discouraged her from doing so.
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/former-aide-accuses-ny-gov-cuomo-of-sexually-harassing-her-for-years/
George II
(67,782 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)only now that he might be a cabinet pick?
BS
pecosbob
(7,544 posts)Take a sworn statement from the woman and interview the witnesses. If she won't, there's no case. If she's lying, prosecute or sue Once having made the accusation public, she is liable if she cannot back it up..
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)She makes it sound like Cuomo was always in her office....she worked in one office in the NYC area. The agency consists of many staffers throughout the state. Cuomo spends more time in Albany, then most and did commute to his shared Westchester residence.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)PatrickforO
(14,592 posts)prosecuted under state law in NY?
Seems like the timing of this is a bit too coincidental, eh?
appleannie1
(5,070 posts)other employment.
Warpy
(111,354 posts)I'm sorry, but this stuff is just getting so predictable you can almost set your clocks by it.
If he did anything illegal, she can file charges and try to prove the case in court. If he didn't this is just another lamebrain attempt to smear a Democrat out of office like they did with Al Franken.
So put up or shut up Ms. Boylan.
(Guys, comments about our looks in the workplace are unwelcome to most women in the workplace because it makes you sound like creepers. We're there to do a job to earn money to put food on the table. We don't give a damn what you think about our hair or anything else, we're there to do a job and if we didn't need the money, we wouldn't be there. So shut up, already)
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Have to learn more, but it looks like another hit job to me because trump is scared of Cuomo, and because Cuomo can intellectually run circles around trump, and trump knows he can't intimidate him. This sounds planned by one of trumps dirty tricksters.
Raftergirl
(1,294 posts)works for the Governor and knows this women.
First, the Governor is an asshole to everyone. Very difficult person to work for.
Second, he knows this women. According to him she is a nutjob and wasnt particularly good at her job, plus inserted herself into issues that she had no business doing and wasnt qualified to address.