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UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:22 PM Dec 2020

U.S. government checks constituted 40% of farmers' income in 2020: USDA

Source: AP via Marketwatch

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Thanks to the government paying nearly 40% of their income, U.S. farmers are expected to end 2020 with higher profit than 2019 and the best net income in seven years, the Department of Agriculture said in its latest farm income forecast.

Farmers faced challenges throughout 2020 that included the impact of trade disputes; low prices that drove down cash receipts for corn, cotton, wheat, chicken, cattle and hogs; and weather difficulties such as drought in some areas and an unusual August wind storm stretching from South Dakota to Ohio that centered on Iowa.

Farm cash receipts are forecast to decrease nearly 1% to $366.5 billion, the lowest in more than a decade, measured in real dollars. Direct federal government payments saved farmers’ bottom line: Farmers overall saw a 107% increase in direct payments from 2019, when a third of net income came directly from the government.

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Excluding USDA loans and insurance indemnity payments made by the Federal Crop Insurance Corporation, farmers are expected to receive $46.5 billion from the government, the largest direct-to-farm payment ever. That includes $32.4 billion in assistance through coronavirus pandemic relief food assistance and Paycheck Protection Program payments to farmers. Additional support comes from more traditional revenue loss programs due to low commodity prices, compensation for trade disruptions resulting from tariff battles and conservation programs assistance.

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“At first it did help, but then we kept getting payments and I don’t know that those were warranted,” said Rick Juchems, 65, who grows corn and soybeans and custom raises hogs. “The markets had already recovered quite a bit and they’re recovering yet more, so it helps some but it’s one of those things that the second one was more than we needed.”

Read more: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-government-checks-constituted-40-of-farmers-income-in-2020-usda-01609444429?mod=mw_latestnews



This explains these gawdawful farmers for trump signs that are still up
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U.S. government checks constituted 40% of farmers' income in 2020: USDA (Original Post) UpInArms Dec 2020 OP
Nothing says free market capitalism like government subsidies bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #1
The takers Bradshaw3 Dec 2020 #2
Fucking Socialists randr Dec 2020 #3
look who is getting a handout Skittles Dec 2020 #4
That's how Trump bought their votes. ananda Dec 2020 #5
That is Reality. Wellstone ruled Dec 2020 #6
Socialism. badboy67 Dec 2020 #7
Socialists keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #8
THANK YOU KEITH DENVERPOPS Dec 2020 #15
He's still telling them that the tariffs (ergo the subsidies) are paid by China. Marcuse Jan 2021 #30
Hold that socialism? keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #9
Welfare for farmers mountain grammy Dec 2020 #10
Hypocrites reader1 Dec 2020 #11
Broadbrush stereotyping. murielm99 Jan 2021 #27
And we don't have enough subsidized food for millions of hungry Americans? nt Hekate Dec 2020 #12
No wonder the farmer across the road has a "yuge" tRump flag a flyin. nt yaesu Dec 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #17
"but then we kept getting payments" BumRushDaShow Dec 2020 #14
"rugged individualists" TeamPooka Dec 2020 #16
All over farm country up here. He bought their vote months ago. BTW, all christian fundies. Miigwech Dec 2020 #18
Socialism is okay for the farmers, but not for everyday working folks displaced by the pandemic. nt iluvtennis Dec 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #20
Are they gonna have to spend winters in the US Wolf Frankula Jan 2021 #21
End all agricultural subsidies. roamer65 Jan 2021 #22
Then they would sink, murielm99 Jan 2021 #33
That 40 pct is debt that I have to pay interest on through my taxes. roamer65 Jan 2021 #34
I don't know who is getting the checks mentioned murielm99 Jan 2021 #35
I do know. I grew up on a farm. roamer65 Jan 2021 #36
Good luck separating the family farms. murielm99 Jan 2021 #37
Yeah. Very few farms are family owned in my area of MI. Most are owned by corporate entities. roamer65 Jan 2021 #38
Most of the USDA's budget murielm99 Jan 2021 #23
I live in farming country UpInArms Jan 2021 #24
If that is true, murielm99 Jan 2021 #25
Thank you for your efforts and perspective, Muriel. mcar Jan 2021 #31
As you not sew, so shall ye still reap . . . Journeyman Jan 2021 #26
That would be sow, not sew. murielm99 Jan 2021 #32
Those self-reliant patriotic famers hate socialism Yeehah Jan 2021 #28
I should have started an ant farm to get a big fat check miyazaki Jan 2021 #29

bucolic_frolic

(43,228 posts)
1. Nothing says free market capitalism like government subsidies
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:26 PM
Dec 2020

Reward the unprofitable! All welfare to the corporations!

DENVERPOPS

(8,843 posts)
15. THANK YOU KEITH
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 07:18 PM
Dec 2020

my thinking exactly.......Fuck the farmers over with ludicrous Chinese tariffs, then cover your parties ass with Taxpayers money.......

Marcuse

(7,495 posts)
30. He's still telling them that the tariffs (ergo the subsidies) are paid by China.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 03:47 PM
Jan 2021

Joe didn’t even call him on it in the last debate.

reader1

(55 posts)
11. Hypocrites
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:47 PM
Dec 2020

These so-called farmers are mostly engaged in mono crop agriculture, to either export to China or for ethanol bio-fuel. They are mostly Trump supporters who are normally disdainful to anyone collecting food stamp just to survive, while at the time do not mind collecting tax payer money to continue living their comfortable lifestyle.

murielm99

(30,749 posts)
27. Broadbrush stereotyping.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 04:05 AM
Jan 2021

If our lifestyle is comfortable, it is because my husband and I have always worked off-farm jobs.

Response to yaesu (Reply #13)

Response to UpInArms (Original post)

murielm99

(30,749 posts)
33. Then they would sink,
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 02:49 PM
Jan 2021

especially the small farmers. Food prices would skyrocket.

Would you like me to come and take 40% of your income, if that is indeed an accurate figure? I know it is not accurate for us.

murielm99

(30,749 posts)
35. I don't know who is getting the checks mentioned
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jan 2021

in the article posted in the OP. We certainly are not getting them. I don't know anyone around here who is getting them.

You pay interest on the nutrition programs supported by the USDA. You pay interest on welfare programs, actually a very small part of our overall budget. You pay interest on our defense budget, too.

I doubt that you know much about agriculture, about crop insurance and price supports. Do some research.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
36. I do know. I grew up on a farm.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 06:23 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sat Jan 2, 2021, 06:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Most of the entities receiving these payments are large corporate and LLC level farms near where I grew up. That is why I support cutting them completely. The vast majority of these payments are corporate welfare. If it is a corporation, we should NOT be subsidizing it.

I would definitely support a compromise where only family farms got support payments.

murielm99

(30,749 posts)
37. Good luck separating the family farms.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 07:22 PM
Jan 2021

Many families incorporate. Growing up on a farm is not the same thing. Farming has changed.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
38. Yeah. Very few farms are family owned in my area of MI. Most are owned by corporate entities.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

My dad knows the area and he tells me about it.

My dad was dairy farmer of 30 plus years.

Milk companies won’t even take on small operations anymore here.

murielm99

(30,749 posts)
23. Most of the USDA's budget
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 02:07 AM
Jan 2021

goes to nutrition. Google it.

I can attest to the fact that many farmers could not survive without the subsidies. The cost of production is high. Always. Prices are never guaranteed. Weather is never predictable.

I would encourage everyone to read the entire article. You certainly cherry picked what you chose to post from it.

No wonder we can't get farmers and other rural people to vote for Democrats. We condemn them without understanding their needs and problems. And those of you who condemn us most loudly know very little about agriculture.

We farm. We are Democratic activists as well.

The groupthink here will kick in just as 2021 kicks in. I will sit back and wait for all the negative comments. Happy fucking new year.

murielm99

(30,749 posts)
25. If that is true,
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 02:31 AM
Jan 2021

why did you post such a biased article, and cherry pick the way you presented it?

I am tired of the blanket condemnation of agriculture I see on DU.

I belong to a group that is under the Indivisible umbrella. A few of us are farmers. We are reaching out to other farmers and agricultural workers. We are asking members of the Farm Bureau and Pork Producers to meet with us over Zoom, to answer questions and hold some discussions. We are not going to turn them into Democrats, but we are going to try to look for common ground and understand each other as neighbors and citizens. Maybe DU members should try doing something similar.

You have not shown me that you understand "a lot more" than I know.

murielm99

(30,749 posts)
32. That would be sow, not sew.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jan 2021

Do you have any other highly informed opinions on agriculture that you would like to share?

Yeehah

(4,589 posts)
28. Those self-reliant patriotic famers hate socialism
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jan 2021

so I'm sure they're going to send the checks back.

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