'I just want to find 11,780 votes': In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secreta
Source: WaPo
I just want to find 11,780 votes: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to find enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.
The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking a big risk.
Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his offices general counsel rejected his assertions, explaining that Trump is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Bidens 12,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.
Trump dismissed their arguments.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html?tid=ss_tw
Link to tweet
Initech
(101,058 posts)brokephibroke
(1,884 posts)Trump will get what he deserves when he loses his immunity.
smb
(3,534 posts)sinkingfeeling
(52,511 posts)woodsprite
(12,080 posts)AZ8theist
(6,082 posts)But why are we not suing the election in Kentucky where ACTUAL ELECTION FRAUD took place??
smb
(3,534 posts)Maybe this is just the first one where the tape got out.
Lonestarblue
(11,239 posts)Trying to force the creation of votes that do not exist would seem illegal and criminal, but I dont know whether Trump is violating specific laws. Threats to an election official should be illegal if theyre not already.
jmowreader
(51,101 posts)And so can Melania. Both of them claimed residence at an address that cant legally be one, which means both of them voted illegally.
jaxexpat
(7,394 posts)AZ8theist
(6,082 posts)cilla4progress
(25,434 posts)come to mind.
Yeehah
(5,021 posts)He has lots of debts coming due. I am somewhat enjoying his clownish attempts to cling to power. I truly will enjoy watching his demise after he is no longer president.
smb
(3,534 posts)Also, if he didn't grift enough to pay off his Mafiya debts, he could end up falling out a window.
exboyfil
(17,912 posts)When Gore specified two counties for a recount calling it vote mining.
Nice there is a recording for history. Please play it during the discussion of Georgia's Electoral votes in the House and Senate.
cilla4progress
(25,434 posts)Amirite?
exboyfil
(17,912 posts)I thought that might happen. Too many people were involved when he called the Sec State, and by that point he was angry and concerned given the earlier threats.
Good timing for it to come out. It seems like the cabal objecting on Tuesday or going to have some head wind.
Corgigal
(9,292 posts)why they even picked up the phone on Mr. Lame Duck.
Change your number people.
mopinko
(71,358 posts)dalton99a
(83,185 posts)Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,805 posts)with that - just refer him to your attorney and hang up.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,805 posts)if I had a dollar for every time I had to tell someone my boss was "in a meeting" when he or she really just didnt want to talk to that person - Id be rich!
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)BigmanPigman
(52,129 posts)smb
(3,534 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,338 posts)Bayard
(23,492 posts)Trump must be charged with election interference and intimidation.
TeamPooka
(25,000 posts)rdking647
(5,113 posts)when the idiot goes to GA for his rally he should be met by the GA state police and taken away in handcuffs
LymphocyteLover
(6,207 posts)still_one
(94,723 posts)yaesu
(8,025 posts)but he must be impeached again or Democracy will be lost, forever because there will be more fascists getting away with it in the future.
MizLibby
(318 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)with regard to election tampering specifically. And yet, I guess if you're a celebrity they let you do it and whatnot.
dlk
(12,095 posts)Just find the votes...
IggleDuer
(971 posts)Surely they all might have voted for you. Mango Musselini could have pulled a lot closer, if had told the voters to wear masks.
Behind the Aegis
(54,671 posts)Even if he "wins" GA (by theft), he still loses the presidential election!
What a fucking dipshit!
Soon...soon...
Pepsidog
(6,291 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)still_one
(94,723 posts)niyad
(117,750 posts)quite willing to let Kharma deal with him. He is f'n dangerous.
birdographer
(2,136 posts)I have the champagne, just waiting for the event. If he ceased to exist, SO MUCH shit would just go away!
MineralMan
(146,948 posts)Fucking Hell!
TeamPooka
(25,000 posts)so dumb.
bucolic_frolic
(45,677 posts)No one would suspect a thing!
DeminPennswoods
(15,806 posts)LOL!
maddogesq
(1,246 posts)Mob bosses worth their salt don't pick fights they know they can't win.
The Mango Moron would do better to go back and see who he can fleece to fund future adventures and those pesky legal bills arising from the Southern District of NY.
jaxexpat
(7,394 posts)BarbD
(1,209 posts)You lost dumb-ass. Go home -- or don't you have one to go to?
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)He'd be a hitch hiking serial killer if he wasn't born rich.
TeamPooka
(25,000 posts)djacq
(1,654 posts)"You can't trust this president to do the right thing. Not for one minute, not for one election, not for the sake of our country. You just can't. He will not change and you know it."
Akacia
(595 posts)one more time, I HATE HIM!
groundloop
(11,931 posts)Mocking a disabled reporter
Bragging about being able to 'grab 'em by the pussy'
Serial adulterer
Paid porn star to cover up adultery
6 or 7 (lost count) bankruptcies which screwed many small businesses and working people
Bragged about walking into the dressing room for young pageant contestants
and on and on.
At least I know he'll be out of our White House in 2 1/2 weeks.
Akacia
(595 posts)bucolic_frolic
(45,677 posts)Maeve
(42,756 posts)It too short a time to impeach, and I want him to pay for this.
Generic Brad
(14,352 posts)He lost. It's over. Move on, for Christ's sake.
liberalla
(9,722 posts)Who?
UCmeNdc
(9,635 posts)No one in the DOJ is looking into this?
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,656 posts)I found 25 cents there the other day. So, it's possible. I just need to look again. One more time should do it.
PSPS
(13,977 posts)tavernier
(12,994 posts)The lesson was that he could do anything he wanted and be impeached and the repubs wouldnt do a thing about it, ever. That was the lesson you gave him and he learned it well.
Happy Hoosier
(8,065 posts)... is this not a Federal crime!?
Catch2.2
(629 posts)if there are no consequences. Trump & the Republicans continue this because they have not been held accountable. They have been allowed to get away with this corruption without any consequences. If the Dems don't do anything, this corruption will continue but much worse!
Catch2.2
(629 posts)if there are no consequences. Trump & the Republicans continue this corruption because they have not been held accountable. They have been allowed to get away with this corruption without any consequences. If the Dems don't do anything, this corruption will continue but much worse!
patphil
(6,709 posts)In essence, Trump wanted Raffensperger to cheat so he could win. I imagine he had similar conversations with Republican officials of all the "contested" states. Unfortunately for Trump the laws of Georgia made it legal to both record and publish the content of the call.
But then it's the Democrats who "fixed" the election....riiiight.
You can't fix what isn't broken. But, of course, Trump was perfectly willing to break it.
usaf-vet
(6,627 posts)F..K the other voters.
58Sunliner
(4,932 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(12,293 posts)Karma13612
(4,636 posts)That is not going to help him or the GOP at all.
The 4:XX minute tape doesnt mention her. But the full length 1 hour audio which I have listened to for 40 minutes so far DOES contain reference to Stacy in a very negative light.
Man, Trump is going down in a great implosion right before our eyes. I hope he does time for this crap.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,717 posts)onetexan
(13,528 posts)Bernstein: "Republicans should be calling for him to resign immediately...The heroes of Watergate were Republicans who would not tolerate Richard Nixon's conduct".
tclambert
(11,118 posts)After he's dethroned, Trump should teach a university course on phone etiquette.
Or maybe record voicemail messages: "At the tone, leave a message. Before I listen to it, I want you to do a favor for me first, though."
truthisfreedom
(23,286 posts)Even though Georgia law states that only one party on a phone call needs to consent to the recording.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-sues-georgia-official-recording/
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)Just dont have recordings of those.