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(47,487 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:03 AM Jan 2021

Fleeing the pandemic and two hurricanes, thousands of migrants walk toward the U.S.

Source: LA times (Yahoo)

Any Ortega has not been home since a pair of hurricanes devastated Honduras in November, leaving hundreds of thousands of people displaced. Now, Ortega, 30, is among the latest group of Honduran migrants and asylum seekers making their way north through neighboring Guatemala toward Mexico — where the government has fortified border security with thousands of National Guard troops — and toward the U.S. border hundreds of miles to the north.

This caravan could represent a resurgence of such efforts as President-elect Joe Biden, who has vowed to reform President Trump's hard-line immigration policies, takes office Wednesday. For Trump, migrant caravans were a vivid symbol of what he called an out-of-control immigration system, and his administration moved to clamp down while successfully pressuring Mexico to stop many U.S.-bound migrants long before they reached the border.

Biden's election has raised hopes in Central America — devastated by last year’s hurricane-driven floods, in addition to chronic issues of poverty and gang violence — that the incoming administration may ease its policies for asylum seekers and other migrants. This caravan could prove an early test for the new administration, as will relations with the Honduran government, led by President Juan Orlando Hernández, who, along with his security forces, has been implicated in three U.S. drug-trafficking cases.


Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/fleeing-pandemic-two-hurricanes-thousands-235412172.html

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Fleeing the pandemic and two hurricanes, thousands of migrants walk toward the U.S. (Original Post) question everything Jan 2021 OP
Not Sure How Helpful We Can Be At This Time Frerotte Jan 2021 #1
They arent asking for a handout they just need a place for a fresh start is all and as long as they cstanleytech Jan 2021 #4
I Don't Diasagree Frerotte Jan 2021 #21
Welcome Back to DU! RandiFan1290 Jan 2021 #6
I Tend to be Cautious in Relationships LOL! Frerotte Jan 2021 #20
Some of us are considering fleeing this country for asylum elsewhere!? Bayard Jan 2021 #13
Agreed - we kinda got a pandemic, violence &unemployment going here too.... not saying never, just Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2021 #17
Provided they are willing to come here legally and are willing to work I have zero problems cstanleytech Jan 2021 #2
In 20-30 years it's going to be millions trying to go north. roamer65 Jan 2021 #3
That's why I see the border wall fight as unwinnable NickB79 Jan 2021 #12
THIS. roamer65 Jan 2021 #14
I smell a Roger Stone trick... Telling people to CARAVAN to the USA now.. winstars Jan 2021 #5
+1 dalton99a Jan 2021 #16
I really hope the Biden administration will do more to help Central America. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #7
Not to mention at least some of their problems thucythucy Jan 2021 #8
And the best example of that is Venezuela. oldsoftie Jan 2021 #10
"fleeing the pandemic"? Um, you're headed to THE hotspot. oldsoftie Jan 2021 #9
Yes, I think the article is wrong about that. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #11
Biden Official Tells Migrants 'Now Is Not the Time' to Come to U.S. question everything Jan 2021 #15
Wow, this is crazy Polybius Jan 2021 #18
whats the source? Dont recognize it - cant be too skeptical these days nt Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2021 #19
I hadn't heard of Global News either so I looked it up csziggy Jan 2021 #22
It's real Polybius Jan 2021 #23

Frerotte

(71 posts)
1. Not Sure How Helpful We Can Be At This Time
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:19 AM
Jan 2021

Why now?

I'm not sure how helpful we are able to be at this time. We need a breather to set our country on a different track.

I don't think now is the time for large groups showing up here right now as some of us are considering fleeing this country for asylum elsewhere!

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
4. They arent asking for a handout they just need a place for a fresh start is all and as long as they
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:47 AM
Jan 2021

are willing to work we should be welcoming them.
Besides better they come here and get the paperwork to prove they are here legally rather than come illegally and risk being exploited and mistreated.

Frerotte

(71 posts)
21. I Don't Diasagree
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 09:03 PM
Jan 2021

I don't disagree with this statement at all and I would be the first to welcome them.

I just don't know how ready our systems are to embrace them at this moment.

I am a social worker by profession and if the systems aren't up to par it is going to be difficult.

I have not kept up with this so I cannot answer to our readiness.

I also think that there just might be some behind the scenes manipulations.

Frerotte

(71 posts)
20. I Tend to be Cautious in Relationships LOL!
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 08:57 PM
Jan 2021

Thank you!

I have been a lurker for many years. I had a family tragedy in 2008 and just decided to read and watch as the years went by on this forum and others.

My son was killed in a car accident and my brother died by his own hand. I know what it feels like to live in tragedy.

In the last year or so I have felt better about engaging again.

But I do tend to be a bit cautious about joining in .... as the years can testify too.



Bayard

(22,100 posts)
13. Some of us are considering fleeing this country for asylum elsewhere!?
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:01 PM
Jan 2021

Why would we being doing that now, when it looks like we're finally emerging from hell?

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
17. Agreed - we kinda got a pandemic, violence &unemployment going here too.... not saying never, just
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 02:11 PM
Jan 2021

how bout later.

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
2. Provided they are willing to come here legally and are willing to work I have zero problems
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:43 AM
Jan 2021

with them coming here to make a new life for themselves.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. In 20-30 years it's going to be millions trying to go north.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:46 AM
Jan 2021

The Great Climate Exodus.

It isn’t gonna be about work, or a better life, etc, etc

ITS GOING TO BE ABOUT SURVIVAL.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
12. That's why I see the border wall fight as unwinnable
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:17 AM
Jan 2021

When climate change really ramps up, we'll be too worried about internally displaced Americans than refugees.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
5. I smell a Roger Stone trick... Telling people to CARAVAN to the USA now..
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:42 AM
Jan 2021

Is the USA border caravan arrive date 1/21/21???

Have there been any white people down there telling these poor souls that now is the time to come up ?

I guessing Faux News and ShitMax and OhhhhhhhhhAN will have wall to wall coverage of the CARAVAN coming here.

The brown People, OMG!!!

And they will being mentioning MS-13 is coming too in three, two, one....


Another fucking CARAVAN, interesting timing...
Boring.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
7. I really hope the Biden administration will do more to help Central America.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:26 AM
Jan 2021

Countries like El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala not only have the most corrupt leaders and gang violence, but climate change has caused problems for farmers and their food supply. These countries are among the poorest on the planet, and they will never get better with corrupt leaders who take whatever wealth there is for themselves.

thucythucy

(8,069 posts)
8. Not to mention at least some of their problems
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:37 AM
Jan 2021

were caused or made worse by US foreign policy--the US engineered overthrow of the democratically elected government of Guatemala, funding of oligarchs in Guatemala and El Salvador, the Reagan sponsored Contra war in Nicaragua, etc.

Trump of course added yet another layer of hardship and mismanagement to our treatment of the area.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
11. Yes, I think the article is wrong about that.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:58 AM
Jan 2021

The major reasons Central Americans want to come here is due to climate changes and crippling gang violence.

question everything

(47,487 posts)
15. Biden Official Tells Migrants 'Now Is Not the Time' to Come to U.S.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jan 2021

A senior Biden transition official is warning migrants hoping to cross the southern border into the U.S. during the early days of the new administration that “now is not the time” to come.

“There’s help on the way, but now is not the time to make the journey,” an unnamed Biden official said, NBC News reported.

The Biden administration is looking to end the Trump administration’s policy of requiring that migrants wait in Mexico as immigration courts consider their asylum applications. Those who have been waiting at the border will be considered first for entry over migrants who only recently arrived. Additionally, the Biden administration will scrap the stricter restrictions the previous administration imposed on asylum seekers, which limit who is eligible for entry.

However, any immigration legislation proposed by the Biden administration will address illegal immigrants living in the U.S. rather than new migrants arriving at the border, the official said.

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-official-tells-migrants-now-143841757.html

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
22. I hadn't heard of Global News either so I looked it up
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jan 2021
Global News is the news and current affairs division of the Canadian Global Television Network. The network is owned by Corus Entertainment, which oversees all of the network's national news programming as well as local news on its 21 owned-and-operated stations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_News


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Overall, we rate Global News Left-Center Biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-news/

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