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brooklynite

(94,933 posts)
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 09:56 PM Jan 2021

Trump Has Discussed Starting a New Party

Source: Wall Street Journal

President Trump has talked in recent days with associates about forming a new political party, according to people familiar with the matter, an effort to exert continued influence after he leaves the White House.

Mr. Trump discussed the matter with several aides and other people close to him last week, the people said. The president said he would want to call the new party the “Patriot Party,” the people said.

Mr. Trump has feuded in recent days with several Republican leaders including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.), who on Tuesday said Mr. Trump deserved blame for provoking the deadly Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol. Polls show Mr. Trump retains strong support among rank-and-file GOP voters.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-impeachment-biden-inauguration/card/90pPMzFPqr5fMzg1Bkbs

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Trump Has Discussed Starting a New Party (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2021 OP
AKA-- volstork Jan 2021 #1
AKA-- Lock him up. Jan 2021 #8
What's the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean? Martin Eden Jan 2021 #31
Great! H2O Man Jan 2021 #51
I wish I could take credit for that joke, or this one: Martin Eden Jan 2021 #104
Simply marvelous! Billytee Jan 2021 #102
The Pussy Grabber Party! Hah! Hey, this is great news as it will badyt split the R-Scum Party. machoneman Jan 2021 #87
the scam the rubes party azureblue Jan 2021 #53
Snap.. The Giant Pity Party Cha Jan 2021 #77
GOPP: Grand Ole Pity Party. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2021 #81
Yes it is, KY Guy! Cha Jan 2021 #82
I predicted it. The MAGA Q God Emperor of the US party. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #2
No, no Rebl2 Jan 2021 #10
Great idea Little Donny. Grab your crayons and get to work. Blue Owl Jan 2021 #3
Go for it, big boy! Cirque du So-What Jan 2021 #4
He's copying the far reaching parties in Europe. luvtheGWN Jan 2021 #30
Exactly. femmedem Jan 2021 #42
I hate auto-correct luvtheGWN Jan 2021 #45
I knew what you meant. femmedem Jan 2021 #50
And yet... if there were a 3rd party... DEMS and REPUBLICANS could work together... TigressDem Jan 2021 #61
I think there will be 3 R parties or 2 and a defacto third. (Un)fortunately only one will work w Ds Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #83
Could be... but with them running around fighting with each other.... TigressDem Jan 2021 #91
Party motto is in: Moostache Jan 2021 #5
Party of the ignorant liberal N proud Jan 2021 #6
I would donate to that! Chainfire Jan 2021 #7
More impetus dweller Jan 2021 #9
Yes this!! I'll bet the Republicans would loooove seeing their vote split. Marie Marie Jan 2021 #41
Hatriot Party Zorro Jan 2021 #11
Their mascot could be a two-toed sloth. Chainfire Jan 2021 #12
lol Demonaut Jan 2021 #13
The Pity Party. Hopefully more like the Donner party soothsayer Jan 2021 #14
Good idea. Lunabell Jan 2021 #15
The irony is too much to take Dopers_Greed Jan 2021 #16
Classic MAGAt 1984 doublethink. royable Jan 2021 #29
The Patriot Party? EarlG Jan 2021 #17
Amen, the Criminal Insurrection Party appalachiablue Jan 2021 #59
Every party has a pooper. C_U_L8R Jan 2021 #18
The Humpty-Trumpty Party bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #19
Great-- break up the GOP! dawg day Jan 2021 #20
Let's see him hold his rallies. keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #21
Please Proceed PlanetBev Jan 2021 #22
This'll go well for him and the GOP both. I applaud his boldness. Please do it. marble falls Jan 2021 #23
What a great idea. LisaL Jan 2021 #24
And his ignorant fuckhead cultists will happily give him millions to do it. Orrex Jan 2021 #25
I totally think he should. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #26
Great! Split up the GOP! That could be the nicest thing he ever does. Maraya1969 Jan 2021 #27
Gee, that'd be a shame if it cut into GOP votes as a 3rd party. Chemisse Jan 2021 #28
Talk about trumping the GOP sandensea Jan 2021 #32
He'll be bored with it in a week. louis-t Jan 2021 #33
Please start another Party, the Pendejo Party ... aggiesal Jan 2021 #34
I think it should be called Make America Good and Great Over Trump - MAGGOT! patphil Jan 2021 #35
Whatever it's called, Spinal Tap's already got the theme song Grokenstein Jan 2021 #36
When the tsunami of legal cases hit Trump, he won't have time to organize a picnic. Chainfire Jan 2021 #37
Sounds like a Steve Bannon project. Probably contingent on a Bannon pardon. Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #38
Please, please, please let him... mac2766 Jan 2021 #39
This is why he must be charged with crimes and put in prison. Liberty Belle Jan 2021 #40
I'm thinking this is what will give Moscow Mitch bluestarone Jan 2021 #95
The Nazi Party? Pachamama Jan 2021 #43
Of course he would - worked for that guy in Gemany a few decades back packman Jan 2021 #44
The only guarantee is bankruptcy. world wide wally Jan 2021 #46
The Prison party Dukkha Jan 2021 #47
Yup, the Take No Prisoners party onetexan Jan 2021 #63
We think alike. He could call it Patriotic Inmate Party (PIP). KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2021 #80
This will not happen because others will not go for it... Stuart G Jan 2021 #48
You're right in your thinking. BarbD Jan 2021 #71
I will buy Trump all the rope he wants for this. apnu Jan 2021 #49
He did start a new party. yankeepants Jan 2021 #52
This is exactly how he intends to stay in the limelight. llmart Jan 2021 #54
Trump's Patriot Party left-of-center2012 Jan 2021 #55
Relevant Danascot Jan 2021 #96
Please Do IT! BadGimp Jan 2021 #56
That would end the GOP as we know it. Jarqui Jan 2021 #57
My brother has a theory that titles speak to exactly what an entity isn't BainsBane Jan 2021 #58
Trump needs to smother under the blanket of ignominy. cayugafalls Jan 2021 #60
He should call it the "Freedom Party." Gore1FL Jan 2021 #62
Aka cannabis_flower Jan 2021 #64
I heard his new movement is going to be called the bowel movement turbinetree Jan 2021 #65
Senate conviction is vital orangecrush Jan 2021 #66
The potty party? niyad Jan 2021 #67
Except that none of these people are patriots jmowreader Jan 2021 #68
Great! Go for it! SharonAnn Jan 2021 #69
I guarantee it will be a minority third party that will split the deplorable vote with Republicans. Nitram Jan 2021 #70
71 million newdayneeded Jan 2021 #72
I think ALL the hard core MAGATs should always vote for his Bettie Jan 2021 #73
"National Socialist Party" is already taken. LudwigPastorius Jan 2021 #74
Party of the Treason Weasel badboy67 Jan 2021 #75
Oh yeah? Well I'll start my own party with blackjack and hookers! Initech Jan 2021 #76
Killer jokes! But if you think he's not got militias among the 72 mil, you're kidding yourselves. ancianita Jan 2021 #78
I agree, Trump is a threat! Smackdown2019 Jan 2021 #100
Big Macs hahaha -- you are absolutely right! Money well spent. As Cheney said, ancianita Jan 2021 #101
Make sure this story gets out to McConnell! SunSeeker Jan 2021 #79
He already has music twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #84
That would be great. Woodwizard Jan 2021 #85
American Independent Party DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #86
I think that's a good idea. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #88
He knows Republicans will prevent him from running again, duforsure Jan 2021 #89
GOOD! Split the Republican Party! Do it! Do it! Do it! LaMouffette Jan 2021 #90
I second all the posts in this thread that highlight this is just for grifting mdbl Jan 2021 #92
Great idea, please do it Donny Dumbass! OverBurn Jan 2021 #93
Once his filthy hands are off the levers of power, Trump will become irrelevant Yeehah Jan 2021 #94
Great news. TommyCelt Jan 2021 #97
Trump's Traitor Tots Party. Captain Zero Jan 2021 #98
Excellent idea steve2470 Jan 2021 #99
The "I think you're so stupid you'll fall for it a second time" party Billytee Jan 2021 #103

Martin Eden

(12,882 posts)
31. What's the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:40 PM
Jan 2021

Donald Trump has never had a garbanzo bean on his face.

Martin Eden

(12,882 posts)
104. I wish I could take credit for that joke, or this one:
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:43 AM
Jan 2021

The American Medical Association reported 25% of Trump voters have been prescribed medication for mental illness.

This is very disturbing because it means 75% of them are going without treatment.

machoneman

(4,016 posts)
87. The Pussy Grabber Party! Hah! Hey, this is great news as it will badyt split the R-Scum Party.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:38 AM
Jan 2021

We win again! So much winning..................................

azureblue

(2,155 posts)
53. the scam the rubes party
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:34 PM
Jan 2021

that's all he wants - a way to scam money from his followers. He thinks that if he can form his own party, he can get his followers to defend his crimes for him. And he can cry "political persecution!"when he has to pay for his crimes.

At least we will know where all the crazies are.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,498 posts)
81. GOPP: Grand Ole Pity Party.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 03:46 AM
Jan 2021

KY..........

Great to see the jovial mood on DU for a welcome change.....

Cha

(297,975 posts)
82. Yes it is, KY Guy!
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 04:07 AM
Jan 2021

Yeah, it has been an Angry, Pissed Off Four Freaking, Twilight Zone Years!

And, then along came Biden & the Winning Dems!



luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
30. He's copying the far reaching parties in Europe.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:35 PM
Jan 2021

Even though he'll split the GOP, this so-called "Patriot Party" is actually something to fear (and I mean FEAR). It emboldens his followers and, given that they already want to dismantle the US government, it could lead to bigger horrors and desecration at both the federal and state level than we have already seen this month.

Perhaps this will be impetus that the GOP needs to convict him. And, one would hope, the NY state puts him in jail.

femmedem

(8,209 posts)
42. Exactly.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:04 PM
Jan 2021

Yes, it would mean that the Democrats would be more likely to retain control of Congress. But this party could do tremendous damage to the country nonetheless.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
45. I hate auto-correct
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:10 PM
Jan 2021

especially when I don't read what I've typed. Far-reaching should have been far-reichwing and those people are incredibly dangerous to any democracy.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
61. And yet... if there were a 3rd party... DEMS and REPUBLICANS could work together...
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM
Jan 2021

Throw all the shit stains to the "Pooper Party" and since typically it has been fairly neck and neck for DEMS and Republicans, the bit that splits might embolden MORE election protection by the groups left. BECAUSE if the Republicans can go back to just being irritating instead of REICH WING MORE people might get interested in voting out the freaks.

We would be MUCH more likely to have bi-partisan cooperation if there were a 3rd party trying to get into the game.

2/3rds majorities and getting stuff done. Healing the country might really happen.

Nah. He'll just stay and keep ruining the reThugs.


Bernardo de La Paz

(49,064 posts)
83. I think there will be 3 R parties or 2 and a defacto third. (Un)fortunately only one will work w Ds
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 07:39 AM
Jan 2021

1) The largest will be the remains of the GOP Greed Over People. I call it the Rotting Elephant Carcass party. For the time being, it will be led by mcCONnell. He has clearly signalled he is done with tRump and wants him out of the party.

2) Second biggest will be tRump's party. He will take a signifcant portion with people like Gym "Medal of Freedom" Jordan, Nunes, Hawley, Ron Johnson, Graham, Boebert, Greene, etc. I call it the MAGA Q God Emperor of the US party. Cruz will have an agonizing decision whether to join the man who insults his wife.

3) Smallest will likely not be an actual party but a loose coalition. They might run as Independents. It would be the rational conservatives such as the Lincoln Project and the 10 Rs who voted for impeachment in the House. They would be the only party who really would work with Democrats, like in the good old days that trumpanzees only think they want to go back to. But they may not elect many Congress members at all.



TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
91. Could be... but with them running around fighting with each other....
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 09:56 AM
Jan 2021

And if we keep our majority and can do it with or without them...

ALSO I think the Lincoln Project is showing signs of being strong and successful. That is something that really resonates politically. My hope is that their group will grow if slowly at first, steadily.

ANYWAY, whatever THEY do at least we finally have SOME breathing room for the moment.


Chainfire

(17,734 posts)
7. I would donate to that!
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:01 PM
Jan 2021

Then we could sing to the Republicans, "Nana na na, nana na na, hey, hey, hey GOODBYE!"

dweller

(23,695 posts)
9. More impetus
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:03 PM
Jan 2021

For conviction in senate trial
and barred from future political office
or see your repug party destroyed

✌🏻

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
41. Yes this!! I'll bet the Republicans would loooove seeing their vote split.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:03 PM
Jan 2021

Impeach/convict and bar him you fools.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
16. The irony is too much to take
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jan 2021

Call them the "Patriot" Party when they just tried to overthrow the US government? Not very patriotic...

royable

(1,266 posts)
29. Classic MAGAt 1984 doublethink.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:32 PM
Jan 2021

These MAGATs brains are like Schrodinger's cat if it were to have escaped from its box but had managed to maintain its uncollapsed quantum state of being simultaneously alive and dead.

bucolic_frolic

(43,465 posts)
19. The Humpty-Trumpty Party
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:09 PM
Jan 2021

Because he is so skilled, and knows so much about politics, about Walls, about sitting, and about falling flat on his face.

Epic move. Maybe he could get Melania in too, is there room for a Frump?

keithbvadu2

(37,024 posts)
21. Let's see him hold his rallies.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:17 PM
Jan 2021

Let's see him hold his rallies.

How many tickets will his sycophants purchase?

Chemisse

(30,821 posts)
28. Gee, that'd be a shame if it cut into GOP votes as a 3rd party.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:31 PM
Jan 2021


They will never shake the Trump monkey ff their backs.

aggiesal

(8,952 posts)
34. Please start another Party, the Pendejo Party ...
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jan 2021

and take half the (R)'s with you.

Sounds good to me.

He's just looking for another way to grift.

Chainfire

(17,734 posts)
37. When the tsunami of legal cases hit Trump, he won't have time to organize a picnic.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:49 PM
Jan 2021

If he successfully started a new party and pulled 30% of Republican voters, Democrats will rule in perpetuity.

Liberty Belle

(9,539 posts)
40. This is why he must be charged with crimes and put in prison.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:00 PM
Jan 2021

Even impeaching, convicting and barring from office is not enough since he could still run around like Hitler firing up hate groups and inciting more violence.

He needs to rot in prison for the rest of his miserable life, after being convicted of inciting insurrection and being, essentially, a traitor. Let his name go down in infamy.

bluestarone

(17,104 posts)
95. I'm thinking this is what will give Moscow Mitch
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:00 PM
Jan 2021

and the senate rethugs , MORE REASON to remove AND vote to NOT allow him to hold any office ever!!!

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
44. Of course he would - worked for that guy in Gemany a few decades back
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jan 2021

He's not going to let those 70million idiots without a leader, plus it's a money cow.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,498 posts)
80. We think alike. He could call it Patriotic Inmate Party (PIP).
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 03:40 AM
Jan 2021

Grifting inmates out of their cigarette money.

KY.........

Stuart G

(38,455 posts)
48. This will not happen because others will not go for it...
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:15 PM
Jan 2021

The "OTHERS" are those few wise people in the PUKE Party that know that this will destroy
them...both of the two new parties...Trump can do what he wants, but I believe he will be isolated .once he leaves after TOMORROW AT NOON!!!!...

....Trump of course can think what he wants, but the powers that be will do everything to stop him..
Without major funds from major sources, there will be no "TRUMP PARTY"...The powers in the
PUKE PARTY, know that this will destroy any chance of revival from the Trump disaster....and,,,,
Trump cannot do this without major help from the powers that be...Yes, a lot of the Trump crowd
will give money, but to really get started, major funds are needed.

...THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN....(in my opinion)...The major donators to the PUKE party will do
everything possible to stop this & major political figures like McConnell, & "Others", will also
do everything possible to stop this. Trump will be doing this alone...& he is unable to do
this kind of project....."ALONE."


...Trump is not smart enough to do this alone...and if 33 percent of the population supports this, it will
not be enough to win anything. Strong Republican leadership will be totally against Trump & he
will lose worse than ever.

I guess we will know in the next few months but I think McConnell & Others will do everything possible to stop Trump...Trump will have 2 fights: us and strong Republicans against him.
.
..If Trump has 40 percent of Republicans, and the rest of Republicans are against him, then that
will make it worse for the long term Republicans that want to rebuild their political party. Trump cannot
do this himself, but we will see. Hell, I've been wrong many times & could be wrong again...


Oh Well, back to the drawing board...Now, where did I leave it?? Is it here or there...

BarbD

(1,194 posts)
71. You're right in your thinking.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:45 AM
Jan 2021

Our government is based on a two party system. Bernie for example is officially an Independent caucusing with the Dems.

Although Trump could use this as a fund raising vehicle for himself, he does not have the discipline or smarts to lead a true third party.

However, he certainly can cause a lot of mischief which is why he must be held accountable. Actually all of the members of Congress who are guilty of sedition need to be prosecuted.

llmart

(15,565 posts)
54. This is exactly how he intends to stay in the limelight.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:36 PM
Jan 2021

He's a supreme narcissist and without the constant attention he's had for the last four years, he can't survive. He will haunt us with these "teasers" just like he did the entire four years.

I hope people understand that depriving a narcissist of attention is the only way to punish them.

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
57. That would end the GOP as we know it.
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:46 PM
Jan 2021

Go for it, Trump!!

And it would probably lead to the GOP voting to impeach and prevent Trump from ever holding office again.

Pretty stupid time for Trump to bring this up with impeachment votes hanging in the balance.

BainsBane

(53,116 posts)
58. My brother has a theory that titles speak to exactly what an entity isn't
Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:51 PM
Jan 2021

and this is a prime example. The "patriot" party is one of sedition.

cayugafalls

(5,659 posts)
60. Trump needs to smother under the blanket of ignominy.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:07 AM
Jan 2021

Fuck that ignorant criminal pig fucker.

I'm sick and tired of him and wish him all the best under that blanket.

Gore1FL

(21,164 posts)
62. He should call it the "Freedom Party."
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:20 AM
Jan 2021

It would fit nicely with the Harry Turtledove party of the same name in his "How Few Remain" alternative history novels.

orangecrush

(19,661 posts)
66. Senate conviction is vital
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:31 AM
Jan 2021

And bar him from holding office.



Hitler is repeating itself, and must be stopped.

jmowreader

(50,585 posts)
68. Except that none of these people are patriots
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:35 AM
Jan 2021

No patriot would ever try overthrowing the government by violent means.

Nitram

(22,949 posts)
70. I guarantee it will be a minority third party that will split the deplorable vote with Republicans.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:39 AM
Jan 2021

If he actually follows through. I'd say the odds are against that. He'd much rather have a TV channel.

newdayneeded

(1,959 posts)
72. 71 million
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:19 AM
Jan 2021

I've said this before, he got 71 million votes. He thinks every one of them will follow him, he'll be wrong. probably half of those votes were "moderate" Republicans who held their noses and voted for him. He won't get nearly the following, and no where near the funding he's fantasizing about.

Bettie

(16,144 posts)
73. I think ALL the hard core MAGATs should always vote for his
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:26 AM
Jan 2021

whackadoodle party.

Split that Republican vote right down the middle for at least twenty or thirty years!

LudwigPastorius

(9,249 posts)
74. "National Socialist Party" is already taken.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:27 AM
Jan 2021

But, Trump is supposed to be such a deal maker, maybe he can talk them into a merger.

ancianita

(36,209 posts)
78. Killer jokes! But if you think he's not got militias among the 72 mil, you're kidding yourselves.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:18 AM
Jan 2021

He doesn't have to be on any platforms when he's got Steve Bannon as his platform.

Will his pardon possitatus be surveilled? Probably.
But with 1A and 2A, Americans are going to see two years of alt-right go into black wing propaganda mode with his pardoned crew ready for service to keep that 72 mil on a mission.

Lincoln Project told us they're not going away unless we nail their money.

They've raised millions over an election loss, now they'll raise millions more for their martyr and movement.

Smackdown2019

(1,192 posts)
100. I agree, Trump is a threat!
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

He is still a threat and only way is to expose the lies, crimes and Russia Connections. Then once it is exposed, jail him and throw the key away.

Wait! Let's see... 1922 new party took a big hit, the leader was jailed and he wrote a book how he planned to conquer the world. Hmmmmm


Best hope is send him a Big Macs everyday with those salty French fries....

ancianita

(36,209 posts)
101. Big Macs hahaha -- you are absolutely right! Money well spent. As Cheney said,
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jan 2021

"food is a weapon." Especially when what he THINKS is food does him in.

Thanks for the laugh of recognition that comes with your serious insight.

SunSeeker

(51,791 posts)
79. Make sure this story gets out to McConnell!
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 03:14 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Wed Jan 20, 2021, 05:02 AM - Edit history (1)

McConnell will make sure Trump is impeached and barred from ever running!

Woodwizard

(849 posts)
85. That would be great.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:05 AM
Jan 2021

The terrorists will be that much easier to monitor and guarantees none will get in office.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
89. He knows Republicans will prevent him from running again,
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:55 AM
Jan 2021

It gives him a way to grift money, and to threaten them with, and promote family members running. In the end it'll be about revenge, and grafting money for himself.

LaMouffette

(2,042 posts)
90. GOOD! Split the Republican Party! Do it! Do it! Do it!
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 09:56 AM
Jan 2021

And how fittingly ironic to name it the "Patriot Party" when the stated goal of its members is to overthrow the US government.

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
92. I second all the posts in this thread that highlight this is just for grifting
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 10:12 AM
Jan 2021

It is an avenue for him to continue bilking his followers.

Yeehah

(4,599 posts)
94. Once his filthy hands are off the levers of power, Trump will become irrelevant
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 11:54 AM
Jan 2021

I won't feel satisfied until he is prosecuted and punished for all of his crimes.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
99. Excellent idea
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jan 2021

It will split the R party, ensure Democratic victories and further fleece the ignorant stupid rubes that believe in him, despite all objective observable evidence and data. Actually the fleecing is bad, because it will finance his debt.

Billytee

(106 posts)
103. The "I think you're so stupid you'll fall for it a second time" party
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:01 AM
Jan 2021

You can't exactly say his following were exuding intelligence

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