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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:59 AM

Trump Pardons Bannon Hours Before Leaving Office

Source: New York Times

The president made the decision to pardon Stephen K. Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, after a day of frantic efforts to sway his thinking. Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, said the mob that stormed the Capitol “was fed lies,” referring to President Trump’s efforts to overturn the election.

President Trump has granted clemency to Stephen K. Bannon, the former White House chief strategist who was charged with defrauding people who supported building a border wall that Mr. Trump supported, White House officials said.

The president made the decision after a day of frantic efforts to sway his thinking, including from Mr. Bannon, who spoke to him by phone earlier on Tuesday.

The pardon was described as a pre-emptive move that would effectively wipe away the charges against Mr. Bannon, should he be convicted.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/19/us/inauguration-day-biden



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Reply Trump Pardons Bannon Hours Before Leaving Office (Original post)
Still Sensible Jan 2021 OP
Jon King Jan 2021 #1
NYC Liberal Jan 2021 #9
hibbing Jan 2021 #12
Diraven Jan 2021 #14
Botany Jan 2021 #23
turtleblossom Jan 2021 #2
NotASurfer Jan 2021 #3
pbmus Jan 2021 #4
cstanleytech Jan 2021 #5
RockRaven Jan 2021 #6
Still Sensible Jan 2021 #7
turtleblossom Jan 2021 #8
James48 Jan 2021 #10
Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #11
badboy67 Jan 2021 #13
SeattleVet Jan 2021 #15
ancianita Jan 2021 #16
SeattleVet Jan 2021 #17
PatrickforO Jan 2021 #18
Warpy Jan 2021 #19
C Moon Jan 2021 #20
duforsure Jan 2021 #21
Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #22
muriel_volestrangler Jan 2021 #24
intheflow Jan 2021 #25
mdbl Jan 2021 #26

Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:02 AM

1. He stole money from Trump supporters...

You can not make this stuff up. Bannon tricks Trumpers to send him money for a fake wall. Then he steals it and Trump pardons him. Trumpers are true masochists.

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Response to Jon King (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:23 AM

9. Probably used some of that money to secure the pardon, too.

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Response to Jon King (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:30 AM

12. Deplorable dupes n/t

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Response to Jon King (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:43 AM

14. Does he get to keep the money?

I don't think a pardon covers that

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Response to Jon King (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:31 AM

23. "He stole money from Trump supporters..."

Yup! Trump supporters have to be the dumbest people in the world. They watch old Walker Texas
Ranger shows and are shocked when Chuck Norris kicks the bad guy in the head.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:03 AM

2. The swamp they are.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:06 AM

3. So when do they haul him in to testify under oath about Individual 1's criminal activity?

The stuff the FBI maybe knows he knows, now that he can't plead the 5th and he doesn't have somebody dangling a pardon to reward silence or lies?

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:06 AM

4. The fly at their meeting heard Bannon say this...

‘’YOU BIG DUMB MF, IF YOU DON’T PARDON ME, I WILL WRITE A TELL ALL BOOK THAT WILL INSTANTLY PUT YOUR ORANGE ASS IN JAIL FOREVER...’’

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:08 AM

5. Wait a minute!! I thought clemency only applied to the sentence portion? If so then the trial should

still continue.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:09 AM

6. I've said this before and I'm doing it again... Fine! *Now* interrogate the fuck out of him about

every person remotely related to every. single. thing. covered by his pardon. There are other criminals touching almost all of his criminality. He's done nothing in a vacuum, so force him to turn on them, or burn himself with new crimes.

ANY non-cooperation or lying should be doggedly pursued for criminal contempt, obstruction, or lying to federal agent charges as appropriate. And if he does none of that??? Great! So you're saying he's a reliable witness?!? Make him testify EXTENSIVELY against every. last. defendant. in any case in which his testimony applies.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:13 AM

7. And I am waiting to see all the others we have been told

would be coming tonight.

The way this president has abused the pardon power is astonishing! I have to believe the rest that will come in the next 12 hours will be an incredible collection. He has worked the pardon power to benefit his friends, friends of friends, or (gasp) we'll probably identify some that have been outright sold.

Drain the swamp my ass!

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:17 AM

8. The pardon power makes Tяump feels as if he's God.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:26 AM

10. Twelve hours.

That’s all that remains of Trump’s pardon power.

Surely Bannon must have violated some state statute in all of that.

Twelve more hours of the greatest danger to democracy, and the criminal conspiracy coconspirator will be finished.

Tick-tock

Tick-tock

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:27 AM

11. Maybe Bannon will die soon. He looks like he's not too healthy. nt

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:30 AM

13. Imagine if the hamburglar were a real person ...

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:04 AM

15. So was it a pardon, or clemency?

They are VERY different things.

Even the original article at the NYT flips back and forth, using the terms.

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Response to SeattleVet (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:32 AM

16. Katyal and Weissman say it's a pardon. But things might change in the next 11 hours.

You just don't want those two out in the same free air together. Bad things happen.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:37 AM

17. Look like a full pardon...now posted on the White House website

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-executive-grants-clemency-012021/

(Long list!)

Stephen K. Bannon – President Trump granted a full pardon to Stephen Bannon. Prosecutors pursued Mr. Bannon with charges related to fraud stemming from his involvement in a political project. Mr. Bannon has been an important leader in the conservative movement and is known for his political acumen.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:41 AM

18. These people are slime.

And Bannon is among the worst of the worst.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 03:19 AM

19. Will Bannon accept it?

A pardon in this case is the same as a full confession of guilt, which is not going to serve him well in civil court when the people he bilked come looking for the money he and his cronies stole.

The Erickson and Broidy pardons are just as offensive.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 03:21 AM

20. Yeah, I think Bannon found enough money for his pardon.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 05:07 AM

21. By giving him a pardon, and him accepting it,

trump is saying its ok to defraud his supporters ,and steal their money. Bannon by accepting it is accepting guilt,and a ripe target for prosecutors to go after a treasure trove of incriminating evidence against a lot of people. .Bad move by trump, he will tell the truth rather than go to prison

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:16 AM

22. The pardon only applies to his current indictment. Whatever he has done with or for Putin is not.

Bannon and Miller both need to face the music over their crimes against humanity. These are also not covered in the pardon.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 11:08 AM

24. Notice that co-defendants Brian Kolfage, Andrew Badolato and Timothy Shea didn't get pardons

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/21/politics/kolfage-badolato-bannon-shea/index.html

So it's not that Trump is claiming this was not a significant crime; it's that he lets his cronies get away with crimes.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:57 PM

25. Fuck, can we do away with Presidential pardons?

I do not understand why this was embedded in the Constitution to begin with, except of course, rich white men protecting rich white men.

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Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:50 PM

26. Vomit!

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