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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:59 AM

Star Member Still Sensible (2,845 posts)

Trump Pardons Bannon Hours Before Leaving Office

Source: New York Times

The president made the decision to pardon Stephen K. Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, after a day of frantic efforts to sway his thinking. Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, said the mob that stormed the Capitol “was fed lies,” referring to President Trump’s efforts to overturn the election.

President Trump has granted clemency to Stephen K. Bannon, the former White House chief strategist who was charged with defrauding people who supported building a border wall that Mr. Trump supported, White House officials said.

The president made the decision after a day of frantic efforts to sway his thinking, including from Mr. Bannon, who spoke to him by phone earlier on Tuesday.

The pardon was described as a pre-emptive move that would effectively wipe away the charges against Mr. Bannon, should he be convicted.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/19/us/inauguration-day-biden


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Reply Trump Pardons Bannon Hours Before Leaving Office (Original post)
 Still Sensible Jan 2021 OP
LineReply He stole money from Trump supporters...
 Jon King Jan 2021 #1
LineLineReply Probably used some of that money to secure the pardon, too.
 NYC Liberal Jan 2021 #9
LineLineReply Deplorable dupes n/t
 hibbing Jan 2021 #12
LineLineReply Does he get to keep the money?
 Diraven Jan 2021 #14
LineLineNew Reply "He stole money from Trump supporters..."
 Botany Jan 2021 #23
LineReply The swamp they are.
 turtleblossom Jan 2021 #2
LineReply So when do they haul him in to testify under oath about Individual 1's criminal activity?
 NotASurfer Jan 2021 #3
LineReply The fly at their meeting heard Bannon say this...
 pbmus Jan 2021 #4
LineReply Wait a minute!! I thought clemency only applied to the sentence portion? If so then the trial should
 cstanleytech Jan 2021 #5
LineReply I've said this before and I'm doing it again... Fine! *Now* interrogate the fuck out of him about
 RockRaven Jan 2021 #6
LineReply And I am waiting to see all the others we have been told
 Still Sensible Jan 2021 #7
LineReply The pardon power makes Tяump feels as if he's God.
 turtleblossom Jan 2021 #8
LineReply Twelve hours.
 James48 Jan 2021 #10
LineReply Maybe Bannon will die soon. He looks like he's not too healthy. nt
 Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #11
LineReply Imagine if the hamburglar were a real person ...
 badboy67 Jan 2021 #13
LineReply So was it a pardon, or clemency?
 SeattleVet Jan 2021 #15
LineLineReply Katyal and Weissman say it's a pardon. But things might change in the next 11 hours.
 ancianita Jan 2021 #16
LineNew Reply Look like a full pardon...now posted on the White House website
 SeattleVet Jan 2021 #17
LineNew Reply These people are slime.
 PatrickforO Jan 2021 #18
LineNew Reply Will Bannon accept it?
 Warpy Jan 2021 #19
LineNew Reply Yeah, I think Bannon found enough money for his pardon.
 C Moon Jan 2021 #20
LineNew Reply By giving him a pardon, and him accepting it,
 duforsure Jan 2021 #21
LineNew Reply The pardon only applies to his current indictment. Whatever he has done with or for Putin is not.
 Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #22
LineNew Reply Notice that co-defendants Brian Kolfage, Andrew Badolato and Timothy Shea didn't get pardons
 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2021 #24
LineNew Reply Fuck, can we do away with Presidential pardons?
 intheflow Jan 2021 #25
LineNew Reply Vomit!
 mdbl Jan 2021 #26

Response to Still Sensible (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:02 AM

Jon King (1,870 posts)

1. He stole money from Trump supporters...

You can not make this stuff up. Bannon tricks Trumpers to send him money for a fake wall. Then he steals it and Trump pardons him. Trumpers are true masochists.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:23 AM

Star Member NYC Liberal (19,666 posts)

9. Probably used some of that money to secure the pardon, too.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:30 AM

Star Member hibbing (9,156 posts)

12. Deplorable dupes n/t

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:43 AM

Diraven (185 posts)

14. Does he get to keep the money?

I don't think a pardon covers that

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:31 AM

Star Member Botany (64,222 posts)

23. "He stole money from Trump supporters..."

Yup! Trump supporters have to be the dumbest people in the world. They watch old Walker Texas
Ranger shows and are shocked when Chuck Norris kicks the bad guy in the head.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:03 AM

turtleblossom (447 posts)

2. The swamp they are.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:06 AM

NotASurfer (1,854 posts)

3. So when do they haul him in to testify under oath about Individual 1's criminal activity?

The stuff the FBI maybe knows he knows, now that he can't plead the 5th and he doesn't have somebody dangling a pardon to reward silence or lies?

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:06 AM

Star Member pbmus (12,292 posts)

4. The fly at their meeting heard Bannon say this...

‘’YOU BIG DUMB MF, IF YOU DON’T PARDON ME, I WILL WRITE A TELL ALL BOOK THAT WILL INSTANTLY PUT YOUR ORANGE ASS IN JAIL FOREVER...’’

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:08 AM

Star Member cstanleytech (23,919 posts)

5. Wait a minute!! I thought clemency only applied to the sentence portion? If so then the trial should

still continue.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:09 AM

RockRaven (10,626 posts)

6. I've said this before and I'm doing it again... Fine! *Now* interrogate the fuck out of him about

every person remotely related to every. single. thing. covered by his pardon. There are other criminals touching almost all of his criminality. He's done nothing in a vacuum, so force him to turn on them, or burn himself with new crimes.

ANY non-cooperation or lying should be doggedly pursued for criminal contempt, obstruction, or lying to federal agent charges as appropriate. And if he does none of that??? Great! So you're saying he's a reliable witness?!? Make him testify EXTENSIVELY against every. last. defendant. in any case in which his testimony applies.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:13 AM

Star Member Still Sensible (2,845 posts)

7. And I am waiting to see all the others we have been told

would be coming tonight.

The way this president has abused the pardon power is astonishing! I have to believe the rest that will come in the next 12 hours will be an incredible collection. He has worked the pardon power to benefit his friends, friends of friends, or (gasp) we'll probably identify some that have been outright sold.

Drain the swamp my ass!

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:17 AM

turtleblossom (447 posts)

8. The pardon power makes Tяump feels as if he's God.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:26 AM

Star Member James48 (3,482 posts)

10. Twelve hours.

That’s all that remains of Trump’s pardon power.

Surely Bannon must have violated some state statute in all of that.

Twelve more hours of the greatest danger to democracy, and the criminal conspiracy coconspirator will be finished.

Tick-tock

Tick-tock

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:27 AM

Progressive Jones (6,010 posts)

11. Maybe Bannon will die soon. He looks like he's not too healthy. nt

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:30 AM

badboy67 (460 posts)

13. Imagine if the hamburglar were a real person ...

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:04 AM

SeattleVet (5,034 posts)

15. So was it a pardon, or clemency?

They are VERY different things.

Even the original article at the NYT flips back and forth, using the terms.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:32 AM

Star Member ancianita (27,287 posts)

16. Katyal and Weissman say it's a pardon. But things might change in the next 11 hours.

You just don't want those two out in the same free air together. Bad things happen.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:37 AM

SeattleVet (5,034 posts)

17. Look like a full pardon...now posted on the White House website

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-executive-grants-clemency-012021/

(Long list!)

Stephen K. Bannon – President Trump granted a full pardon to Stephen Bannon. Prosecutors pursued Mr. Bannon with charges related to fraud stemming from his involvement in a political project. Mr. Bannon has been an important leader in the conservative movement and is known for his political acumen.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:41 AM

Star Member PatrickforO (13,587 posts)

18. These people are slime.

And Bannon is among the worst of the worst.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 03:19 AM

Warpy (103,111 posts)

19. Will Bannon accept it?

A pardon in this case is the same as a full confession of guilt, which is not going to serve him well in civil court when the people he bilked come looking for the money he and his cronies stole.

The Erickson and Broidy pardons are just as offensive.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 03:21 AM

Star Member C Moon (10,930 posts)

20. Yeah, I think Bannon found enough money for his pardon.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 05:07 AM

duforsure (11,596 posts)

21. By giving him a pardon, and him accepting it,

trump is saying its ok to defraud his supporters ,and steal their money. Bannon by accepting it is accepting guilt,and a ripe target for prosecutors to go after a treasure trove of incriminating evidence against a lot of people. .Bad move by trump, he will tell the truth rather than go to prison

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:16 AM

Star Member Ford_Prefect (6,024 posts)

22. The pardon only applies to his current indictment. Whatever he has done with or for Putin is not.

Bannon and Miller both need to face the music over their crimes against humanity. These are also not covered in the pardon.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 11:08 AM

muriel_volestrangler (97,927 posts)

24. Notice that co-defendants Brian Kolfage, Andrew Badolato and Timothy Shea didn't get pardons

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/21/politics/kolfage-badolato-bannon-shea/index.html

So it's not that Trump is claiming this was not a significant crime; it's that he lets his cronies get away with crimes.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:57 PM

Star Member intheflow (26,922 posts)

25. Fuck, can we do away with Presidential pardons?

I do not understand why this was embedded in the Constitution to begin with, except of course, rich white men protecting rich white men.

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Wed Jan 20, 2021, 01:50 PM

mdbl (4,972 posts)

26. Vomit!

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