In huge step, California governor will lift stay-at-home orders across the state

[brooklynite]

Source: The Hill

With new COVID-19 infections showing signs of potential abatement in California, Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) is reportedly planning to lift stay-at-home mandates on Monday, Politico reports.

This move will allow restaurants to open for outdoor dining options and salons to resume indoor appointments, sources told Politico. Reopening options will apply to regions including the San Francisco Bay Area, Central Valley and Southern California and marks the first reopening opportunity since December.

Prior to Newsom’s pending decision, some California restaurateurs have criticized and taken legal action against Newsom’s dining restrictions. In August 2020, the advocacy organization California Restaurant Association (CFA) released a grim statistic: 30 percent of California restaurants will permanently shut their doors.

The CFA largely blames Newsom’s lack of aid for the economic crunch.

Read more: https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/smart-cities/535659-in-huge-step-california-governor-will-lift-stay-at

[onecaliberal]

1. 0% ICU beds in my county since thanksgiving.

This is fucking outrageous.

[CountAllVotes]

3. Plain stupid!

Stupid stupid stupid!

Why?

Newsom wants to get re-elected, that is in part why.

Otherwise, it is STUPID thing to do!

[onecaliberal]

5. Good luck to him. The kkkult won't vote for him.

I can’t really vote for someone who has demonstrated that he doesn’t care about people who do right thing. Our 45,000 pupil school district has been open since November too.

[CountAllVotes]

12. Wow! That is sickening!

How many people are sending their kids to school?

The schools up north are closed and will remain closed for the foreseeable future *I hope*!

I am sad to see Newsom become a shill from the dark money folKKKs!

[onecaliberal]

14. It's about 80% sending their kids.

There is no teachers union in this place to protect teachers. They’re being told to report to work, take unpaid leave or resign. We’ve been forced to work in person since June.

[CountAllVotes]

64. That is an awful situation to be in

I commend you regardless of what you do!

[onecaliberal]

65. Thanks. It's part of why I know it's not getting better here in two weeks or even a month.

Oh how I would love to be wrong. My city got only 8000 doses of vaccine for next week. Those will all go to second dose people. We have no idea when it will be our turn. It’s been a cluster from the start. Just like this area was the last in the state to get adequate testing. Probably only in the last 4 months can you get a COVID test at CVS and not only because you were exposed.

[CountAllVotes]

66. I feel overwhelming sadness for you

I really mean that.

Please take care best you can.

If you were to quit your job tomorrow, I would not blame you ONE DAMN BIT!

[onecaliberal]

67. I would love to do that but I would lose 15 years of service time and

It would mess up my retirement. I never knew when it came down to it that people I have known and worked with all this time would take me out given half the chance.

[SunSeeker]

43. My kid's high school in Orange County, CA has been open since Septrmber.

The high school currently has 10 students and 3 teachers out with Covid-19...that we know of.

[onecaliberal]

44. We've been open since November. We've had hundreds sick.

We were just notified. That in the event we contract covid or have a first-degree exposure. We will get 7 days quarantine and then be expected to return to work.

[kimbutgar]

6. This is about the recall

A lot of dark money is funding a recall of Newsom in the state to turn it red with a low turnout election.

[onecaliberal]

15. Same shit they did to get Davis out.

If Newsom thinks this is how his base will support him good luck with that. The pukes are never going to get enough signatures

[SunSeeker]

45. Yup, the GOP can't win in a general election, so they do these special recall elections.

They're counting on the lower turnout of a special election to sneak a Republican into the Governor's chair. It's disgusting.

[onecaliberal]

46. I honestly don't see them getting the signatures. Not a chance in hell I'd vote to recall.

[SunSeeker]

47. They have 1.2M of the 1.5M signatures required, and have until March to get the rest.

Recall organizers say they have collected have reached 1.2 million signatures toward the 1.5 million petition signatures needed to place the recall on the ballot, and they have until mid-March to hit the required threshold.

https://www.kusi.com/rescue-ca-continues-efforts-to-recall-governor-gavin-newsom/

[onecaliberal]

48. How many legal signatures?

[SunSeeker]

60. Good question. It was QAnon nutjubs collecting signatures, so they are suspect.

I hope very few. But there are millions of Republicans in California, so it is possible they are valid signatures.

[onecaliberal]

61. There sure are. I'm a constituent of Devin Nunes.

I see messages on Nextdoor and magat minions trying to get signatures around here. People are definitely getting paid to do it. They’re not volunteers.

[SunSeeker]

62. Yup, lots of Orange County Republicans and dark money are bankrolling the recall effort.

It shouldn't be legal.

[kimbutgar]

55. Today I was out in San Bruno and saw a recall sign and then was in Daly City and these fools

Had tables set up with recall petitions. It was bitterly cold and windy and I hope they froze their asses off. Didn’t see anyone signing those petitions.

[BigmanPigman]

52. It sure as Hell is.

He ks repeating the mistake he made in the Summer when he caved to pressure from businessmen. Our numbers skyrocketed after opening too early. Why is he doing it again?!? Is he afraid of the recall efforts by the selfish, greedy assholes who are the same ones who pulled this shit in July.

[live love laugh]

2. The crazy still remains I was shut down on FB for speaking about reopening

hair salons. There’s two viruses Covid and TrumpVirus.

[Bleacher Creature]

4. This is going to get people killed.

CA was pushing 40K new cases a day a few weeks ago. Getting it back to around 20K isn't a cause for celebration, and this may reverse some of that improvement.

[CountAllVotes]

13. +1

n/t !!

[JI7]

7. Probably becsuse of pressure from restaurant industry

[chowder66]

10. I think it's complicated but this probably factors in.

The health officials are seeing trends that things are calming down (while there are a lot of infections many of those are not ICU bound and those numbers are dropping of late).

There are no real holidays coming to speak of which is where we see the massive surges shortly follow.

The only variable that really worries me is the new variant viruses. L.A. county (which I'm in) may not lift restrictions due to how bad it is here. It's up to our Mayor on what he wants to do about that.


It's a massive state and not easy to manage so I'm still all for Newsom's approach. I don't see him trying to do things with any malfeasance. If he shuts down, he gets severe pushback from small businesses which is understandable and if he opens up he gets pushback from those who hate the lockdown. He's in a bit of a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.
All the while there are entirely too many people going on about their business as though there isn't a pandemic or flagrantly defying masking and distancing requirements.

[chowder66]

11. There is nothing fake about Newsom's alliances.

[sdfernando]

9. As I read in another posting sometime back

"The parachute has slowed our rate of descent so we can take it off now"

[onecaliberal]

16. Millions of people live in counties with 0%

ICU beds. My county has been that way since Thanksgiving. The entire middle of the state. The place most of the food comes from is not getting better. It’s remaining in the really bad column.

[sdfernando]

23. Yep..I've got a ton of cousins in the Fresno area

Its bad up there.

Here in San Diego County, as of Saturday we are at 92% capacity and the trend for that week was heading up not down.

[sarge43]

26. That's a keeper. Thanks. n/t

[Polybius]

17. There's no reason not to have outdoor dining

Even here in NYC, we have it.

[EllieBC]

18. There is if you believe all or nothing is the way to go.

Not having outdoor dining and not providing a way for the restaurant industry to stay afloat is basically akin to telling them you don’t give a rat’s ass.

Outdoor dining in winter is very doable!

[Polybius]

19. Plus a lot of Cali is nice and warm

Here in NYC, we have it with heaters. I was at a restaurant last night, and it was 30 degrees. It wasn't bad because they had proper heating. Indoor dining is still banned here, which I'm fine with.

[EllieBC]

21. We have limited indoor dining here but I haven't been.

Firstly going to a restaurant with 3 kids is hot garbage in the best of times and secondly, I just don’t need it. We’ve been supporting restaurants by getting takeout and delivery and my husband and I have dined outdoors a handful of times and left hefty tips. And because it’s BC we have those outdoor heating lamp things too and love those!

No one wants to explain exactly how to keep everyone locked down and still not bankrupt people. All I hear is shrill screaming on the pro and anti lockdown fronts and no actual viable solutions.

[Retrograde]

37. I put on my hat and gloves this "nice, warm" morning

to go for a walk. We don't get MidWest winter temperatures (lived there, froze there) but here in the Bay Area we get overnight frosts and chilly days in winter. Heaters help a bit, as long as the wind stays down, but pre-covid I've eaten in outdoor settings in March (the indoors was too noisy to carry on a conversation) and when the wind hit you it wasn't the pleasantest experience.

The other problem I see is that using tents or some sort of screening effectively turns the outdoors into the indoors. You still have a lot of people in a confined space, breathing each other's air. I've waited this long to go to a restaurant again, I can wait until summer. Meanwhile I'll stick with the occasional takeout.

[onecaliberal]

27. We've had outdoor dining the whole time.

This is NOT what lifting the order means. All the pricks around here will now feel that much more embolden to refuse wearing a mask. This is just fucked.

[Stallion]

20. Important to Note that While California's Numbers are High-They are No. 37 in Per Capita Deaths

which is really pretty outstanding in a densely populated state

[IronLionZion]

30. Looks like it's worse in red counties

where people have resisted masking and social distance.

[onecaliberal]

40. It is much worse in my county.

I just drove through town on my way for a work errand and literally saw no one wearing a mask. Lots of people having lunch inside.
This is exactly what I thought would happen.

[deurbano]

34. San Francisco has done very well in that area (knock on wood), despite having the 2nd highest

density of any US city (after NYC). Apparently, we have less overcrowding within our homes than LA, which has proved pivotal, and some neighborhoods in LA are also quite dense. It's been surprising that our Chinatown, which people assumed would be hard-hit--given the density and connection to China--has been one of the least hit. (In terms of per capita deaths, I mean.)

[progree]

35. Interesting, NYTimes lists California as 6th highest in daily new deaths per capita, 7 day mvg avg

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

and 7th highest in daily new cases per capita, 7 day moving average.

[EndlessWire]

22. Wow

Lifting restrictions is not going to make the virus go away. We as individuals still need to make personal decisions regarding our behavior. But, I agree, this is about the recall. I, for one, will not vote to recall him, because I think he is in a "damned if I do, damned if I don't" situation not of his making.

As Biden begins to straighten problems out, Cali is now going to take ten steps backward. No matter that there are no major holidays, we are going to have the virus tighten its hold on us.

I would rather have heard him say that he was commissioning new emergency hospitals, or finding more vaccines, or just anything other than, "I am giving up and turning things over to the public."

And, Cali is NOT going to turn red, so if that's what they think, they will be wrong. We'd rather secede than be red, IMO.

WEAR YOUR MASK, KEEP AWAY FROM OTHER PEOPLE, AND WASH YOUR HANDS. These are the same instructions as during that other infamous pandemic. It's basic to safety. Please, let's try it some more.

[onecaliberal]

28. He bowed to right wing pressure even though they have zero chance here.

🤬🤬🤬🤬

[SunSeeker]

24. He bowed to the pressure of the Republican recall campaign against him. Sad. nt

[greenjar_01]

25. We're heading this way in IL, too

I think they've all decided to let it rip through the Spring.

[onecaliberal]

29. Let them die.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

31. Hope this isn't premature

[progree]

36. 7th highest new cases, and 6th highest new deaths (7 day moving averages per capita)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

So, as long as there are 6 states with higher per capita new cases and 5 states with higher per capita new deaths, it can't be too bad or something like that, so yeah time to open up I guess.

[xxqqqzme]

32. He should have a briefing today at noon

The last time he bowed to pressured to 'reopen' the numbers went up. Plus the vaccination distribution is severely lacking direction and implementation. But this is Orange County so no big surprise the program is in chaos.

[Mr. Sparkle]

33. He bowed to pressure from right wingers, rather than fighting them.

For shame Gavin!

[FreeState]

38. ICUs are projected to be at 30% in 4 weeks

This has always been the rules when they were set up. When 4 week out projections were above 15% the regions were to open. All regions are projecting above 15% and will be opened.

Stop panicking - this is following the science and is not a change in the plan.

[onecaliberal]

42. The ICU in this county has been at 0% for at least 8 weeks.

[FreeState]

49. Yes but opening again is based on forecast - which is well above n/t

[onecaliberal]

51. Based on the no one wearing a mask today around town.

That “forecast” is going to be deadly for a lot of people around here. It’s not getting better and has been going the wrong way since before Halloween. So forgive me if I don’t buy that.

[FreeState]

53. The forecast is coming from scientist not basic observations on masks n/t

[onecaliberal]

54. Forgive me if I don't buy that.

We’ve had 0% ICU beds since November. The numbers here are not getting better and won’t be because people do not wear masks and do not stay home. You know, science.

[FreeState]

56. Except for the numbers are getting better

They are basing the lifting on projections. Cases have been going down, hospitalizations have been going down and ICU capacity is tied to both of those.

[onecaliberal]

57. They're not getting better here. Not sure what you're not getting about that.

[FreeState]

58. Here

Link to tweet

?s=20

ICU Projections by Region (4-week projections ending February 21, 2021)
Bay Area: 25%
Greater Sacramento: 27.3%
Northern California: 18.9%
San Joaquin Valley: 22.3%
Southern California: 33.3%

California: 30.3%


They are also available on the states covid19.ca.gov website.

[onecaliberal]

59. My county is no way going to make that.

It’s magical thinking. In nearly 3 months we haven’t made that.

[sakabatou]

39. Just great, now we're going to have another outbreak

[Javaman]

41. San Bernardino county, last checked at 138% ICU bed capacity.

this won't end well, sadly

[BigmanPigman]

50. We opened too early in the Summer and now we are repeating a disastrous plan?!?!?

Is this due to a bunch of GOP reps trying to remove Newsom from office? These business people are doing the same BS which led to a huge increase in cases in CA. Why is Newsom caving again? The GOP wants to kill us as long as they get to keep their businesses open and spread Covid to even more people. This is more than fucked up.

[Raine]

63. The very real threat of the recall election

might have had something to do with this change in direction. 🤔

[onecaliberal]

68. Money and power over lives. Exceptionalism my ass.