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ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:38 PM Oct 2012

BREAKING: Ohio early voting cleared by U.S. Supreme Court in Obama victory (via @BloombergNews)

Source: ThinkProgress/TPM/Bloomberg

BREAKING: Ohio early voting cleared by U.S. Supreme Court in Obama victory (via @BloombergNews)

The Supreme Court has turned aside a request from the state of Ohio to take up an appeal of federal court decision which prevented the state from stopping early voting during the three day period before the election. The decision is a victory for the Obama campaign, which had successfully argued that Ohio could not allow military and overseas voters to vote during the three day period unless that opportunity was available to all voters.



Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/supreme-court-turns-down-ohio-early-voting-case

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BREAKING: Ohio early voting cleared by U.S. Supreme Court in Obama victory (via @BloombergNews) (Original Post) ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 OP
WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #1
AWESOME! Raster Oct 2012 #2
"Without noted dissent..." BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #3
They didn't want to further the damage . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #5
Ironically the Obama campaign used Bush v Gore as their argument in their brief to the court. former9thward Oct 2012 #33
The court said at the time . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #42
Attorneys are ignoring that advice. former9thward Oct 2012 #52
That must have stuck in Fat Tony's craw. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2012 #51
second smile at that thought....n/t irisblue Oct 2012 #82
Not Yet mtasselin Oct 2012 #56
My guess about Roberts is . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #67
or a revolution in the streets..... (figuratively speaking) robinlynne Oct 2012 #79
That's the likely result of discrediting the Court. nt caseymoz Oct 2012 #89
Have "they" won any of these vote cases? Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #4
Woo Hoo.... That's what I'm talking about!!!!! skeewee08 Oct 2012 #6
Awesome! avebury Oct 2012 #7
Wonderful...postive news to calm my jangled nerves. Ninga Oct 2012 #8
Perhaps but it could all just be a smoke-screen Meandering1 Oct 2012 #90
Great news!!!! -Steph- Oct 2012 #9
This is great ashling Oct 2012 #10
K&R BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #11
Husted - Busted xxqqqzme Oct 2012 #12
This is a BAD DAY in RoveLand! flamingdem Oct 2012 #13
DailyKos just coinfirmed it at 937am PDT also gopiscrap Oct 2012 #14
CNN link: ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #15
Awesome leftynyc Oct 2012 #16
HA - HA! Megahurtz Oct 2012 #17
great news bocephus0706 Oct 2012 #18
AWESOME! lilithsrevenge12 Oct 2012 #19
Great News!!! BraKez2 Oct 2012 #20
Welcome to DU and yes it is great news. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #23
Thanks!! BraKez2 Oct 2012 #25
A great day to join my friend. Welcome! hrmjustin Oct 2012 #26
Welcome, my friend. reflection Oct 2012 #48
Welcome to DU!!! gopiscrap Oct 2012 #66
Yippee!! Wish I could rec it more than once! DippyDem Oct 2012 #21
Great news! Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #22
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #24
Obama is doing fine in OH. Don't worry about all the bull the media spews. Welcome to DU. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #32
More like byebye to DU HERVEPA Oct 2012 #34
Didn't you notice his evil grin? AAO Oct 2012 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author CheapShotArtist Oct 2012 #41
Kickety-kick-kick and rec. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #27
Great news! Puglover Oct 2012 #28
Excellent outcome. It would have been a huge mistake if the Supremes had taken this up. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #29
good heaven05 Oct 2012 #30
Need this as Obama is getting battered by Gallup 46-50 kansasobama Oct 2012 #31
Kanasobama, gallup is not the best and has been negative towards O Iliyah Oct 2012 #53
Gallup has always been more positive for conservatives, no? Patiod Oct 2012 #92
State of Ohio (paintiff) had an argument that was truly, truly lame. maddogesq Oct 2012 #35
YAY!!!!! dorkzilla Oct 2012 #36
Where are all of the SC bashers from yesterday? former9thward Oct 2012 #37
FRICKIN AWESOME! I was fearing another Bush v. Gore. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #38
Kick pinto Oct 2012 #39
the Supremes did this under John Roberts???? wordpix Oct 2012 #43
I believe he is trying to right the court; however, we will not win every time. juajen Oct 2012 #55
Great news! I couldn't see how they could argue against the voters. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #44
Too late Jose_Jalapeno Oct 2012 #45
Good grief there's still 21 days left. JimDandy Oct 2012 #50
Jose be a Dickey Drooper! juajen Oct 2012 #58
thank goodness the SC finally used some common sense ... chillfactor Oct 2012 #46
A note of caution: the court denied the stay, but it hasn't acted on the state's request for cert onenote Oct 2012 #47
I just have one thing to say to Husted ejbr Oct 2012 #49
Oh sooo D'oh! Equal rights, FCS! Coyotl Oct 2012 #54
Now stop wasting the taxpayers' money, Husted and do your fucking job for once. Panasonic Oct 2012 #57
Score one for democracy! Zambero Oct 2012 #59
When Mitt loses OH he loses Iliyah Oct 2012 #60
But it doesn't guarantee that there will be sufficient machines and workers in black neighborhoods. lindysalsagal Oct 2012 #61
You think Shitt will throw this in his face as an affront to the military? bamacrat Oct 2012 #62
If we have another FL or OH bucolic_frolic Oct 2012 #63
Saweet!! Republicans CAN'T hold the voters down!! yay!! SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #64
Good News BUT marions ghost Oct 2012 #65
Oh dang it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2012 #68
Typical Republicans mercymechap Oct 2012 #69
Wait till Fox News spins it CultJamProductions Oct 2012 #70
Welcome to DU, CultJamProductions! calimary Oct 2012 #94
looks like I was right CultJamProductions Oct 2012 #95
Excellent!!!! K&R!! hue Oct 2012 #71
The GOP might start to learn they can't strip away voting rights BainsBane Oct 2012 #72
Fantastic Mojo2 Oct 2012 #73
Four hours of voting each day, November 3, 4 and 5 Maeve Oct 2012 #74
marvelous ailsagirl Oct 2012 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author allan01 Oct 2012 #76
re:Ohio early voting cleared by U.S. Supreme Court in Obama victory (via @BloombergNews) allan01 Oct 2012 #77
any minute now they will start screaming about activist judges leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #78
I think this was Kagan's doing ..... Botany Oct 2012 #80
No. Kagan referred the stay request to the full court onenote Oct 2012 #85
She should have just denied it out of hand. Pab Sungenis Oct 2012 #91
Nope she shouldn't have. onenote Oct 2012 #93
Coolness! SoapBox Oct 2012 #81
Poor Husted.. what's a gopropaganda sos to do? Cha Oct 2012 #83
Woot! tavalon Oct 2012 #84
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #86
Finally a voice of reason! Orrex Oct 2012 #87
Woodamnhoooooo! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #88
I thought this Court was right leaning? sellitman Oct 2012 #96

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
42. The court said at the time . . .
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:14 PM
Oct 2012

. . . their B v. G ruling was not to be taken as a precedent. It's the words of someone who knows he's already slipped down the slope.

former9thward

(32,068 posts)
52. Attorneys are ignoring that advice.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:39 PM
Oct 2012

I have seen Bush v Gore cited many times by plaintiff attorneys in equal protection suits. In Bush v Gore the court never said it could not be used as precedent.

Their exact language: "The recount process, in its features here described, is inconsistent with the minimum procedures necessary to protect the fundamental right of each voter in the special instance of a statewide recount under the authority of a single state judicial officer. Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances, for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities." http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/531/98/case.html

This was in the body of the opinion and was not even mentioned in the conclusion.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
67. My guess about Roberts is . . .
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:16 PM
Oct 2012

. . . he's realized that pushing it further would discredit the SCOTUS.
 

Meandering1

(36 posts)
90. Perhaps but it could all just be a smoke-screen
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:33 AM
Oct 2012

to cover up a vote switch in November. I still much fear another election fraud situation. Same as in Ohio, 2004 and Florida both 2000 and 2004.

Assuming those stealth players working to get Romney elected through any and all means possible have this scam in place again? Well an early sign would be some kind of collaboration with the major media and pollsters shortly before the election. That Romney can only scam the public if it appears possible he could win. Right now it doesn't. He's just a terrible candidate and it shows.

But if you see the major news sources declaring Romney running close to neck and neck w/Obama in late Oct/early November?

Is a sure sign they intend to pull it off. Thing to do is always believe the exit polls. Not the Diebold, paperLESS election B/shit.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
10. This is great
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:47 PM
Oct 2012

Kicks Husted in the ass and I hope it signals that they are steering clear of electoral politics

Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Response to hrmjustin (Reply #32)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
53. Kanasobama, gallup is not the best and has been negative towards O
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

all year. I consider gallup an outlier. Many other national polls show O leading and/or ticking up. Major news outlets are the ones to watch such as ABC which shows O with a three point lead and leading in the swing states.

I even consider PPP an outlier as well, and well ras is another story. O is over 290 in the swing states.

Now back to OH. Thats great news, but Husted is not to be trusted. We live in a democracy and it seems that the GOPpers are trying to take our voting privileges away, how un-patriotic huh.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
92. Gallup has always been more positive for conservatives, no?
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:28 AM
Oct 2012

Wasn't George Gallup an evangelical Christian conservative who staffed the company with like-minded individuals?

maddogesq

(1,245 posts)
35. State of Ohio (paintiff) had an argument that was truly, truly lame.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:09 PM
Oct 2012

From the SCOTUSBLOG piece:

"Ohio officials wanted to allow voting then only by members of the military and their families, on the theory that they might be called away suddenly on military duty."

Sheesh, even Fat Tony must realize that the argument his hypothetical.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
36. YAY!!!!!
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:10 PM
Oct 2012

Oh, what HAPPY news!!!!! This is turning out to be a WONDERFUL DAY -- I predict we'll all end the day with even a bigger smile on our collective DU faces!!!!!!


WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

former9thward

(32,068 posts)
37. Where are all of the SC bashers from yesterday?
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:11 PM
Oct 2012

They were all predicting the opposite outcome. The SC is not as predictable as some self appointed experts believe.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
44. Great news! I couldn't see how they could argue against the voters.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:17 PM
Oct 2012

But, then, I never would have expected Ohio officials to be so blatant in trying to stop Ohio citizens from voting. It's criminal.

chillfactor

(7,581 posts)
46. thank goodness the SC finally used some common sense ...
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:20 PM
Oct 2012

I thought they had completely lost it.....

I would have loved to have been in Husted's office when the decision came down....bet he wet his pants

onenote

(42,749 posts)
47. A note of caution: the court denied the stay, but it hasn't acted on the state's request for cert
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:21 PM
Oct 2012

Ohio filed a petition asking for a stay of the lower court ruling or in the alternative, grant of its petition for certiorari and summary reversal. The court denied the stay request. I don't think its likely that they would turn around and issue a separate order granting the request for certiorari and summary reversal. But the door remains open for the state to seek certiorari and seek to get a ruling that would allow it, and other states, to set different voting times for different classes of voters on a going forward basis. It only takes four votes to get a grant of cert (and would have taken five to get the stay).

So I think (fingers crossed), we're in the clear for this election cycle, but the battle is not necessarily over. And keep in mind, it is in the State's interest to have the three days of pre-election day voting turn into a clusterf*ck so they can argue that they were right that there was a interest in limiting in person voting during that period.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
54. Oh sooo D'oh! Equal rights, FCS!
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

and the wing-nuts tried to characterize this as Obama trying to stop military from voting

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
57. Now stop wasting the taxpayers' money, Husted and do your fucking job for once.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:46 PM
Oct 2012

And for the people of Ohio, not for the national Republican Party.

I expect Husted to hand in his resignation to Kasich as early as today.

And Kasich hands his resignation as early as tomorrow.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
60. When Mitt loses OH he loses
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:57 PM
Oct 2012

the presidential race and that is why GOPpers are fighting hard to suppress the votes. Ain't no way Mitt wins six states out of 9, and they know it. Psychology if they can show their crazed base that OH is in their favor then they can easily steal it, but still, I don't put it pass them to try and steal it anyways. As to the polls I am convinced that most of them are bought and paid for by right winger corporations, i.e. gallup, ras and many many others.

Vote, Vote, Vote, and get your family and friends out to vote!

lindysalsagal

(20,726 posts)
61. But it doesn't guarantee that there will be sufficient machines and workers in black neighborhoods.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:59 PM
Oct 2012

They're not above doing anything to spoil the vote, and take the consequences later. It's not that easy to prove that poll workers deliberately limited access to working machines.

They can just rig the vote with the software that counts them.

Not celebrating yet.

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
62. You think Shitt will throw this in his face as an affront to the military?
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:00 PM
Oct 2012

I mean obviously O has the luxury of saying that he cares about everyone even the 47% and that's what they were fighting for.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
65. Good News BUT
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:10 PM
Oct 2012

WHY ARE WE FIGHTING THESE BATTLES OVER ACCESS TO VOTING???????????????????????????????????????

This is so backward. WHERE is reform going to come from? ______ ???? WHEN do we need it?!?--Yesterday.

The US voting "system" is an antiquated, easy to manipulate RIDICULOUS monstrosity, the most glaringly obvious indicator of what a sham democracy this is.

Sorry but you know this makes me so mad.

mercymechap

(579 posts)
69. Typical Republicans
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:28 PM
Oct 2012

are still claiming that Obama was anti-military in trying to keep the military from voting these 3 days - talk about dumb.

calimary

(81,441 posts)
94. Welcome to DU, CultJamProductions!
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:38 PM
Oct 2012

Glad you're here! And you certainly are spot-on about how Pox Noise will spin a bunch of nonsense. We need you because this is NOT locked in yet!






Now get to work.

 

Mojo2

(332 posts)
73. Fantastic
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:55 PM
Oct 2012

As a transplanted Ohio native, I find it almost shocking that Ohio would even consider backing a guy that said "let Detroit go bancrupt", as so many jobs in Ohio are tied to the auto industry. From what I have heard from relatives still in Ohio, the economy has been booming, so I find any poll showing Romney winning in Ohio to be strange. Now, if we can only do something about Florida, where I live, the GOP controls everything here, and they are the most crooked bunch that I have ever seen. I thought Bob Taft was a bad Gov. when I lived in Ohio, but Rick Scott makes him look like a genius. From the ground here, it looks like Florida may be slipping out of reach for Obama, but if he can keep Ohio then Romney has to draw an inside straight to win. We need Obama to show some of the Joe Biden street brawler tactics tonight and not let Romney run his hole tossing out his lies. I for one will not be watching the debate, it gets me too upset, but the news on Ohio made my day..Im sensing an uptick for Obame in the next few days!

Maeve

(42,288 posts)
74. Four hours of voting each day, November 3, 4 and 5
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 03:18 PM
Oct 2012

8am-2pm Saturday and Monday, 1pm-5pm on Sunday

This is a win for the people of Ohio and another for Husted

Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

allan01

(1,950 posts)
77. re:Ohio early voting cleared by U.S. Supreme Court in Obama victory (via @BloombergNews)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 03:25 PM
Oct 2012


great news. suppport the peoples right to vote

Botany

(70,567 posts)
80. I think this was Kagan's doing .....
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 05:18 PM
Oct 2012

..... Ohio is in her area of over view and she might have said the court was not going
to hear the case.

although Sec. of State Jon "the douche bag" Husted still limited the hours for early voting
on the last 3 days ...
Sat. 8:00 AM to 2:00 PM
Sunday 1:00 PM to 5:00 PM
Mondays 8:00 AM to 2:00 PM


But still this is great news ..... Ohio might very well be out of reach for Romney by election day.







 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
91. She should have just denied it out of hand.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:26 AM
Oct 2012

That they couldn't get three other Justices to agree with her on granting cert is further proof of how out of step she really is with reality.

onenote

(42,749 posts)
93. Nope she shouldn't have.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:55 AM
Oct 2012

First, had she denied the stay (which is all that was before her), Ohio could then have gone to any Justice of their choice and renewed their demand for a stay. That's how Supreme Court procedure on emergency stay requests works. So kicking the stay request to the full court (also pretty standard) was the smart move. It would take five (not four) Justices to grant the stay and the Justices generally don't like granting stays by a 5-4 margin.

Second, Ohio hasn't yet filed a formal cert petition. They did ask that the stay request, in the alternative, be treated as a cert petition and motion for summary reversal. There is no indication that the court either granted or denied that request, but the denial of the request for stay probably also constitutes a denial of the demand for alternative relief. While it only takes four votes to grant cert, it would still take 5 to reach the merits and grant summary reversal and its all but certain that there wouldn't be 5 votes for such a result.

So, its in the state's hands at this point -- they still have the opportunity to file for cert, even though a favorable ruling could only impact future elections, not this one. Whether they choose to do so and whether the court grants cert (possible, but probably unlikely in the absence of a split in the circuits) is yet to be seen.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
84. Woot!
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:39 PM
Oct 2012

As they say in Chicago, vote early and often!!!!!! (no, I'm not advocating voter fraud, just avoiding election fraud by VOTING EARLY!!!!)

Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

sellitman

(11,607 posts)
96. I thought this Court was right leaning?
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:33 PM
Oct 2012

I'd like to know how each member voted. Who on the right hiccupt?

WTF?

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