BREAKING: Ohio early voting cleared by U.S. Supreme Court in Obama victory (via @BloombergNews)
Source: ThinkProgress/TPM/Bloomberg
BREAKING: Ohio early voting cleared by U.S. Supreme Court in Obama victory (via @BloombergNews)
The Supreme Court has turned aside a request from the state of Ohio to take up an appeal of federal court decision which prevented the state from stopping early voting during the three day period before the election. The decision is a victory for the Obama campaign, which had successfully argued that Ohio could not allow military and overseas voters to vote during the three day period unless that opportunity was available to all voters.
Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/supreme-court-turns-down-ohio-early-voting-case
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)HUGE.
Raster
(20,998 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)caseymoz
(5,763 posts). . . they did in Bush v. Gore.
former9thward
(32,068 posts)caseymoz
(5,763 posts). . . their B v. G ruling was not to be taken as a precedent. It's the words of someone who knows he's already slipped down the slope.
former9thward
(32,068 posts)I have seen Bush v Gore cited many times by plaintiff attorneys in equal protection suits. In Bush v Gore the court never said it could not be used as precedent.
Their exact language: "The recount process, in its features here described, is inconsistent with the minimum procedures necessary to protect the fundamental right of each voter in the special instance of a statewide recount under the authority of a single state judicial officer. Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances, for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities." http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/531/98/case.html
This was in the body of the opinion and was not even mentioned in the conclusion.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,335 posts)irisblue
(33,020 posts)Maybe they have something else planned if it gets to them
caseymoz
(5,763 posts). . . he's realized that pushing it further would discredit the SCOTUS.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)caseymoz
(5,763 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I can't remember any. I'm talking about suppression/early, whatever.
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)Ninga
(8,277 posts)Meandering1
(36 posts)to cover up a vote switch in November. I still much fear another election fraud situation. Same as in Ohio, 2004 and Florida both 2000 and 2004.
Assuming those stealth players working to get Romney elected through any and all means possible have this scam in place again? Well an early sign would be some kind of collaboration with the major media and pollsters shortly before the election. That Romney can only scam the public if it appears possible he could win. Right now it doesn't. He's just a terrible candidate and it shows.
But if you see the major news sources declaring Romney running close to neck and neck w/Obama in late Oct/early November?
Is a sure sign they intend to pull it off. Thing to do is always believe the exit polls. Not the Diebold, paperLESS election B/shit.
-Steph-
(409 posts)ashling
(25,771 posts)Kicks Husted in the ass and I hope it signals that they are steering clear of electoral politics
BumRushDaShow
(129,389 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)Somebody help him get that egg off his face.
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Glad they refused to even hear the case.
Megahurtz
(7,046 posts)bocephus0706
(27 posts)Yes we can....and yes we will
lilithsrevenge12
(136 posts)BraKez2
(279 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Been lurking reading threads all week; decided I would try to jump in on some today...
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)reflection
(6,286 posts)gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)DippyDem
(659 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)Response to hrmjustin (Reply #32)
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Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Puglover
(16,380 posts)I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that sleazoid SOS.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)precedent set. match!!!!! now on to the usopen.
kansasobama
(609 posts)But IPsos-Reuters is up by 3 point.
http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/10/16/reuters-tv-obama-recaptures-lead-over-romney-in-new?videoId=238449653&videoChannel=117850
I do not know what is going on? Gallup is supposed to be the best.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)all year. I consider gallup an outlier. Many other national polls show O leading and/or ticking up. Major news outlets are the ones to watch such as ABC which shows O with a three point lead and leading in the swing states.
I even consider PPP an outlier as well, and well ras is another story. O is over 290 in the swing states.
Now back to OH. Thats great news, but Husted is not to be trusted. We live in a democracy and it seems that the GOPpers are trying to take our voting privileges away, how un-patriotic huh.
Patiod
(11,816 posts)Wasn't George Gallup an evangelical Christian conservative who staffed the company with like-minded individuals?
maddogesq
(1,245 posts)From the SCOTUSBLOG piece:
"Ohio officials wanted to allow voting then only by members of the military and their families, on the theory that they might be called away suddenly on military duty."
Sheesh, even Fat Tony must realize that the argument his hypothetical.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Oh, what HAPPY news!!!!! This is turning out to be a WONDERFUL DAY -- I predict we'll all end the day with even a bigger smile on our collective DU faces!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
former9thward
(32,068 posts)They were all predicting the opposite outcome. The SC is not as predictable as some self appointed experts believe.
SunSeeker
(51,664 posts)Looks like the Supremes don't want to go there again.
pinto
(106,886 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)WOOT! Will wonders never cease.
juajen
(8,515 posts)Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)But, then, I never would have expected Ohio officials to be so blatant in trying to stop Ohio citizens from voting. It's criminal.
Jose_Jalapeno
(11 posts)It might be too late
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Early voting hasn't even started in many other states yet!
juajen
(8,515 posts)chillfactor
(7,581 posts)I thought they had completely lost it.....
I would have loved to have been in Husted's office when the decision came down....bet he wet his pants
onenote
(42,749 posts)Ohio filed a petition asking for a stay of the lower court ruling or in the alternative, grant of its petition for certiorari and summary reversal. The court denied the stay request. I don't think its likely that they would turn around and issue a separate order granting the request for certiorari and summary reversal. But the door remains open for the state to seek certiorari and seek to get a ruling that would allow it, and other states, to set different voting times for different classes of voters on a going forward basis. It only takes four votes to get a grant of cert (and would have taken five to get the stay).
So I think (fingers crossed), we're in the clear for this election cycle, but the battle is not necessarily over. And keep in mind, it is in the State's interest to have the three days of pre-election day voting turn into a clusterf*ck so they can argue that they were right that there was a interest in limiting in person voting during that period.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)and the wing-nuts tried to characterize this as Obama trying to stop military from voting
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)And for the people of Ohio, not for the national Republican Party.
I expect Husted to hand in his resignation to Kasich as early as today.
And Kasich hands his resignation as early as tomorrow.
Zambero
(8,965 posts)The KKK (Karl-Koch-Koch) must be inconsolable at this very moment.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)the presidential race and that is why GOPpers are fighting hard to suppress the votes. Ain't no way Mitt wins six states out of 9, and they know it. Psychology if they can show their crazed base that OH is in their favor then they can easily steal it, but still, I don't put it pass them to try and steal it anyways. As to the polls I am convinced that most of them are bought and paid for by right winger corporations, i.e. gallup, ras and many many others.
Vote, Vote, Vote, and get your family and friends out to vote!
lindysalsagal
(20,726 posts)They're not above doing anything to spoil the vote, and take the consequences later. It's not that easy to prove that poll workers deliberately limited access to working machines.
They can just rig the vote with the software that counts them.
Not celebrating yet.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)I mean obviously O has the luxury of saying that he cares about everyone even the 47% and that's what they were fighting for.
bucolic_frolic
(43,259 posts)I think it will be in Virginia this time.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)WHY ARE WE FIGHTING THESE BATTLES OVER ACCESS TO VOTING???????????????????????????????????????
This is so backward. WHERE is reform going to come from? ______ ???? WHEN do we need it?!?--Yesterday.
The US voting "system" is an antiquated, easy to manipulate RIDICULOUS monstrosity, the most glaringly obvious indicator of what a sham democracy this is.
Sorry but you know this makes me so mad.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,170 posts)Romney just shit his magic underwear.
mercymechap
(579 posts)are still claiming that Obama was anti-military in trying to keep the military from voting these 3 days - talk about dumb.
CultJamProductions
(6 posts)They've been portraying the attempt to extend early voting to everyone (including veterans) as an ateempt to disenfranchise the troops: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10/12/fox-lies-about-military-access-to-early-voting/190592
calimary
(81,441 posts)Glad you're here! And you certainly are spot-on about how Pox Noise will spin a bunch of nonsense. We need you because this is NOT locked in yet!
Now get to work.
CultJamProductions
(6 posts)hue
(4,949 posts)BainsBane
(53,056 posts)and get away with it.
Mojo2
(332 posts)As a transplanted Ohio native, I find it almost shocking that Ohio would even consider backing a guy that said "let Detroit go bancrupt", as so many jobs in Ohio are tied to the auto industry. From what I have heard from relatives still in Ohio, the economy has been booming, so I find any poll showing Romney winning in Ohio to be strange. Now, if we can only do something about Florida, where I live, the GOP controls everything here, and they are the most crooked bunch that I have ever seen. I thought Bob Taft was a bad Gov. when I lived in Ohio, but Rick Scott makes him look like a genius. From the ground here, it looks like Florida may be slipping out of reach for Obama, but if he can keep Ohio then Romney has to draw an inside straight to win. We need Obama to show some of the Joe Biden street brawler tactics tonight and not let Romney run his hole tossing out his lies. I for one will not be watching the debate, it gets me too upset, but the news on Ohio made my day..Im sensing an uptick for Obame in the next few days!
Maeve
(42,288 posts)8am-2pm Saturday and Monday, 1pm-5pm on Sunday
This is a win for the people of Ohio and another for Husted
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
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allan01
(1,950 posts)great news. suppport the peoples right to vote
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)Botany
(70,567 posts)..... Ohio is in her area of over view and she might have said the court was not going
to hear the case.
although Sec. of State Jon "the douche bag" Husted still limited the hours for early voting
on the last 3 days ...
Sat. 8:00 AM to 2:00 PM
Sunday 1:00 PM to 5:00 PM
Mondays 8:00 AM to 2:00 PM
But still this is great news ..... Ohio might very well be out of reach for Romney by election day.
onenote
(42,749 posts)It wasn't a one-Justice decision.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)That they couldn't get three other Justices to agree with her on granting cert is further proof of how out of step she really is with reality.
onenote
(42,749 posts)First, had she denied the stay (which is all that was before her), Ohio could then have gone to any Justice of their choice and renewed their demand for a stay. That's how Supreme Court procedure on emergency stay requests works. So kicking the stay request to the full court (also pretty standard) was the smart move. It would take five (not four) Justices to grant the stay and the Justices generally don't like granting stays by a 5-4 margin.
Second, Ohio hasn't yet filed a formal cert petition. They did ask that the stay request, in the alternative, be treated as a cert petition and motion for summary reversal. There is no indication that the court either granted or denied that request, but the denial of the request for stay probably also constitutes a denial of the demand for alternative relief. While it only takes four votes to grant cert, it would still take 5 to reach the merits and grant summary reversal and its all but certain that there wouldn't be 5 votes for such a result.
So, its in the state's hands at this point -- they still have the opportunity to file for cert, even though a favorable ruling could only impact future elections, not this one. Whether they choose to do so and whether the court grants cert (possible, but probably unlikely in the absence of a split in the circuits) is yet to be seen.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Cha
(297,574 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)As they say in Chicago, vote early and often!!!!!! (no, I'm not advocating voter fraud, just avoiding election fraud by VOTING EARLY!!!!)
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Orrex
(63,220 posts)Welcome to DU!
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)sellitman
(11,607 posts)I'd like to know how each member voted. Who on the right hiccupt?
WTF?