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malthaussen
(17,257 posts)There's something about chickens coming home to roost in there somewhere.
-- Mal
LiberalFighter
(51,664 posts)If they knew what the hell they were doing.
Grokenstein
(5,731 posts)But Boorish Johnson and all the other Tory oiks said "Nah, everything will be British sunshine and British lollipops" and went back to twiddling their thumbs.
Knobs.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,485 posts)According to every loud-mouthed Tory I know, "BREXIT MEANS BREXIT!"
This is what you wanted, now you have it. There is ZERO reason for the EU, who you said you could do without, to not give you what you demanded.
Grokenstein
(5,731 posts)dalton99a
(81,834 posts)The King of Prussia
(737 posts)And it's awful. But there is a grim humour to be found in the response of the winners. So far today we have had ardent Brexiteer Michael Gove grizzling about Brexit. And an ex Brexit Party MEP grizzling about... Brexit. And, best of all, the DUP grizzling about, you guessed it, Brexit.
Ford_Prefect
(7,961 posts)Now they whine about how they were robbed. The problem is this was entirely their doing. They proposed vaporware policy and sold it to the public. It is no surprise at all that nothing was done to prepare for the consequences. The Tories do not lead towards constructive government, it isn't in them to do it. Like the American GOP they have existed solely on opposing constructive governance and progressive politics for so long that they have no one in their party with any other skill set. They cannot recognize the need for planning because they do not know how it is done. Their version of Crisis management is to blame someone whom they can fire, rather than owning the problem by admitting to mistaken judgement and then altering course to cope, or asking for help from informed professionals.
Putin must be smiling very broadly over the endless Brexit debacle. He certainly worked hard enough to finance and enable it.
Unless the voters can throw out this government I don't see how it gets better. 2 more years of nothing going forwards and circular firing squads will do no end of mischief, and certainly nothing good will come of it. I don't see how the EU justifies an extension on the back of present performance. The only way they can do it is that it may prevent worse from happening and that's not on offer with the present Tory Government. They simply lack any ability to accomplish the needed tasks.
IMO this will get much worse, trending towards a national disaster before anything is done to correct it, if such indeed remains possible. COVID-19 doesn't care what you think your glorious British heritage is and what gleaming city sat on which hill. The possibility of mass infection, alongside massive starvation and monumental unemployment brings to mind the chaos and destruction one associates with the worst of a domestic civil war. It seems to me that someone had better wake the grownups in time to put out the fire.
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)I am trying to understand why there are checks on trade moving between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom. Unless it is passing through Ireland (?).
The UK might be striking while the iron is hot, while the EU is stinging over their failed attempt to block COVID-19 vaccine flow across the Irish border.
I wonder how much food is really checked under normal conditions. Perhaps it is more trying to prevent the EU from pulling another political stunt.