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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 02:48 PM Feb 2021

White House confirms Biden will keep embassy in Jerusalem

Source: Roll Call


Senate support last week was overwhelming to keep embassy put

By Niels Lesniewski
Posted February 9, 2021 at 11:51am

The White House confirmed Tuesday that President Joe Biden intends to keep the U.S. embassy to Israel in Jerusalem, where it was relocated during the Trump administration. The issue of where to locate the embassy has been a fixture of negotiations over Israeli and Palestinian territory and authority for decades.

A White House spokesperson confirmed to CQ Roll Call the administration’s intentions, following up on a query from last Friday’s White House press briefing.

“The U.S. position is that our embassy will remain in Jerusalem, which we recognize as Israel’s capital,” the spokesperson said. “The ultimate status of Jerusalem is a final status issue which will need to be resolved by the parties in the context of direct negotiations.”

The Senate voted 97-3 last week during the budget vote-a-rama in favor of an amendment supportive of the location of the embassy. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in response to questioning during his Jan. 19 confirmation hearing that the embassy would remain in Jerusalem, but White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki had not been definitive on Friday.

Read more: https://www.rollcall.com/2021/02/09/white-house-confirms-biden-will-keep-embassy-in-jerusalem/

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White House confirms Biden will keep embassy in Jerusalem (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2021 OP
Can they at least repurpose the courtyard named after Kushner into an area where they keep RockRaven Feb 2021 #1
Wasn't the residence for the Tel Aviv ambassador Sophiegirl Feb 2021 #2
tRump just got his monument. nt yaesu Feb 2021 #3
He really didn't have much of a choice. Bleacher Creature Feb 2021 #4
+++ still_one Feb 2021 #6
I was just going to say the same thing. Aristus Feb 2021 #8
Especially after Trump sold off the ambassador's residence to Sheldon Adelson. tanyev Feb 2021 #15
Not sure there was even a choice to make FBaggins Feb 2021 #21
Makes sense - it is their capital. nt hack89 Feb 2021 #5
This hasn't been universally acknowledged by the international community. cab67 Feb 2021 #11
Not their decision to make hack89 Feb 2021 #12
Not all embassies are located in capitals nor is it a legal requirement. LanternWaste Feb 2021 #16
The US doesnt consider Des Moines as our capital, so that comparison is nonsense. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #25
Never said it is a legal requirement hack89 Feb 2021 #29
which may or may not be Jerusalem. cab67 Feb 2021 #18
It was an important symbolic action hack89 Feb 2021 #31
It had much more to do with politics within the US. cab67 Feb 2021 #33
I am not sure anyone really gives a shit about the Palestinians hack89 Feb 2021 #34
Palestinians don't see it that way BainsBane Feb 2021 #19
Its not really up to them. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #22
Obviously it's not BainsBane Feb 2021 #24
They've had many opportunities to remedy their situation. They choose not to. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #26
Yeah, why not take a deal with no water rights BainsBane Feb 2021 #27
The Palestinians have made themselves irrelevant hack89 Feb 2021 #28
Human beings are not irrelevant BainsBane Feb 2021 #30
Never said they were hack89 Feb 2021 #32
Dare not move it. reader1 Feb 2021 #7
There's only so much Trump stench that Biden can reverse SpankMe Feb 2021 #9
Bad move Joe! A really bad move as it rewards assholes like Kushner and Trump. machoneman Feb 2021 #10
I agree. Mickju Feb 2021 #13
No it doesnt. It has been the law since '95. It should've been done years ago. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #23
Really Sad about This! McKim Feb 2021 #14
This is low on my list of priorities. The politics in Israel are toxic, Politicub Feb 2021 #17
I consider this a mistake BainsBane Feb 2021 #20
97-3 in the Senate MichMan Feb 2021 #35

RockRaven

(15,012 posts)
1. Can they at least repurpose the courtyard named after Kushner into an area where they keep
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 02:51 PM
Feb 2021

their garbage bins and dumpsters?

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
2. Wasn't the residence for the Tel Aviv ambassador
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 02:55 PM
Feb 2021

Sold to Sheldon Adelson before he died? I think it was for over $67M

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
4. He really didn't have much of a choice.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 03:07 PM
Feb 2021

It shouldn't be there in the first place, but yo-yoing it back and forth depending on who is President seems untenable.

tanyev

(42,623 posts)
15. Especially after Trump sold off the ambassador's residence to Sheldon Adelson.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:22 PM
Feb 2021

I wonder how many additional millions went into Trump bank accounts?

JERUSALEM -- The United States sold the ambassador’s residence in Israel for more than $67 million in July, according to an official Israeli record of the sale that shines new light on a transaction that has been shrouded in secrecy.

The State Department confirmed the sale in September but refused to identify the buyer or disclose the sale price of the sprawling beachfront compound in the upscale Tel Aviv suburb of Herzliya. On Tuesday, it said the sale had been “open and transparent.

The Israeli business newspaper Globes has identified the buyer as the U.S. casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, a strong supporter of both President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. A representative of Adelson said the billionaire had no comment.

The sale helped to cement Trump's controversial decision to relocate the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to contested Jerusalem in 2018 and to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. By selling the residence, it would make it harder for future presidents to reverse the decision to move the embassy. President-elect Joe Biden has criticized the decision to move the embassy to Jerusalem but says he will not reverse it.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/record-shows-us-sold-ambassadors-home-israel-67m-74945980

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
21. Not sure there was even a choice to make
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:07 PM
Feb 2021

Administrations of both parties (along with overwhelming congressional majorities) long ago decided that the embassy should be in Jerusalem. The only thing holding back the decision was the belief that terrorist groups would be enraged and it would spark attacks.

That turned out not to be the case and, of course, the embassy has already been moved. There doesn't appear to be a reason to consider moving it back. The US position (again, both parties) is that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

cab67

(3,009 posts)
11. This hasn't been universally acknowledged by the international community.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 05:40 PM
Feb 2021

Moreover, a drive from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem isn't much longer than an hour.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. Not all embassies are located in capitals nor is it a legal requirement.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:34 PM
Feb 2021

Given the above, your sentiment "should be..." is irrelevant as well. France could put its US embassy is Des Moines, Iowa if it wanted to.

"Should be" is a convenient editorial, but lacks force of law.

oldsoftie

(12,615 posts)
25. The US doesnt consider Des Moines as our capital, so that comparison is nonsense.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:40 PM
Feb 2021

Israel considers Jerusalem its capital. And we passed a law in '95 to move our embassy to their capital. So there's your "force of law".

cab67

(3,009 posts)
18. which may or may not be Jerusalem.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:38 PM
Feb 2021

I still think the international community matters. Besides, whether East Jerusalem (where I've been, by the way) is part of Israel is very much an open question, no matter what the Israeli government says.

I brought up the length of the commute because the main reason embassies tend to be in capitals is for ease of access to government officials and offices. Moving the embassy from Tel Aviv didn't do a whole lot to improve that access - it was a cosmetic action.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
31. It was an important symbolic action
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:59 PM
Feb 2021

That hopefully will focus the Palestinians on their situation. This could have only happened because Arab countries have come to the conclusion that strong ties with Israel to oppose Iran are more important than the Palestinians - especially given Hamas’ choice to align with Iran.

cab67

(3,009 posts)
33. It had much more to do with politics within the US.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:09 PM
Feb 2021

Although some prominent Jewish Americans (e.g. Sheldon Adelson) were pleased, it was a very popular action among evangelicals. I don't think Trump gave half a shit about the Palestinian people. He wanted to keep the evangelicals happy.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
19. Palestinians don't see it that way
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:53 PM
Feb 2021

and moving the embassy to Jerusalem was seen as a fragrant disrespect of Palestinians and their cause. It was a pro-RW Likut move.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
24. Obviously it's not
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:37 PM
Feb 2021

nothing is up to them. They are treated like dirt. That doesn't make it right. It's easy to shit all over people who have nothing. It's what empires do, and evidently you're all for it. I myself prefer to see the US operating with a moral compass.

oldsoftie

(12,615 posts)
26. They've had many opportunities to remedy their situation. They choose not to.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:48 PM
Feb 2021

Pres Clinton had a good deal for them & they walked from it. Their continued obstinance is why most of the Arab world has moved on from them & made peace with Israel. Continuing to not recognize Israel doesnt help either. Continuing to harbor attackers is also another problem. Its also telling that none of the neighboring countries ever offered any of THEIR land to help them out. Especially Jordan, which was "created" at the same time as Israel.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
27. Yeah, why not take a deal with no water rights
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:52 PM
Feb 2021

when you live in the middle of a dessert. Did you ever see a map of that deal? There was no contiguous border. The whole thing was carved out to give all the water to Israel. It was only good if you were Israel.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
28. The Palestinians have made themselves irrelevant
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:53 PM
Feb 2021

Their Arab brethren aren’t making a fuss about this - tells you how much the ME has been realigned and where the Palestinians ended up. Hamas backing Iran was a step to far for many Arab countries.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
32. Never said they were
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:03 PM
Feb 2021

Doesn’t mean squandering whatever moral capital they had doesn’t have unfortunate consequences. When you choose a terrorist organization like Hamas to represent you then why would you expect good to come from it?

reader1

(55 posts)
7. Dare not move it.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 03:40 PM
Feb 2021

Of course, every one must pay respect to the golden calf and agreed and not offended the Israeli in any way.

SpankMe

(2,969 posts)
9. There's only so much Trump stench that Biden can reverse
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 04:43 PM
Feb 2021

But, they should make the embassy an eyesore. Turn it into a non-descript, de-emphasized concrete edifice. Maybe ugly, even. The façade should cry out "yeah, I'm here. I have to be. But I don't want to be. So, I ain't prettying myself up for anybody".

machoneman

(4,011 posts)
10. Bad move Joe! A really bad move as it rewards assholes like Kushner and Trump.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 05:01 PM
Feb 2021

We, the USA, are the only major power, NATO member, EU supporter and more to have an embassy in a technologically backward town w/o an airport, major media support and more compared to Tel Aviv.

Dumb and dumber, I say!

oldsoftie

(12,615 posts)
23. No it doesnt. It has been the law since '95. It should've been done years ago.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:35 PM
Feb 2021

The law was never rescinded.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
14. Really Sad about This!
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:08 PM
Feb 2021

I am disappointed in Biden for this. What does it mean for the future? Will he pressure Israel to give vaccines to the people in Gaza? I hope so!!!!! Most Israelis are vaccinated and the people in Gaza?

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
17. This is low on my list of priorities. The politics in Israel are toxic,
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:38 PM
Feb 2021

and the treatment of the Palestinians is indecent. Moving the embassy is symbolic at this point, and will not solve the underlying issues.

And, who knows? Perhaps the embassy will be moved to the Trump Heights settlement should the GOP ever regain power.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
20. I consider this a mistake
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:54 PM
Feb 2021

and it makes it more difficult for the US to pretend to be a neutral broker in the Middle East.

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