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packman

(16,296 posts)
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 01:10 AM Mar 2021

Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan Absolutely Torched His GOP Colleagues, Begging Them To 'Stop Talking About

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Source: UPROXX



Democrats are often accused of not being as fiery or as ballsy as their Republican colleagues. There’s the ever-brave Squad, plus some new congresspeople who’ve followed in their footsteps. But by and large they tend to stay low-key, hoping — often unsuccessfully — that they’ll guilt trip those on the other side of the aisle to do the right thing. Then there’s Tim Ryan.

You may not know who that is. He’s not a household name. He’s just some Democratic representative from Ohio. But on Monday — as the House was giving a second vote on Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion pandemic relief package, which received few of their votes — he had enough. After they raised a stink about bills seeking to raise the minimum wage to support unions, not to mention being more worried about culture war grandstanding over the Muppets, over Mr. Potato Head, over Pepé Le Pew, and over Dr. Seusss, he took them all to the woodshed.

Read more: https://uproxx.com/viral/tim-ryan-republican-representatives-dr-seuss-rant/
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Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan Absolutely Torched His GOP Colleagues, Begging Them To 'Stop Talking About (Original Post) packman Mar 2021 OP
ballsy? Skittles Mar 2021 #1
The origin has everything to do with vulnerability. NutmegYankee Mar 2021 #3
It's not the vulnerability, it's the SEXISM in linking courage to maleness! Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2021 #10
Nothing wrong with say she had the ovaries to do it if a woman were to have done that Fullduplexxx Mar 2021 #11
So in your book, low sex-hormones or low sex-drive or in-between is DISQUALIFYING, it seems. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2021 #13
The article applies "ballsy" to all US Representatives as if they all should be men. Not equal. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2021 #14
this llashram Mar 2021 #15
So you would leave TRANSgender, hystorectomies, and non-binary people out. No. Not "this" Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2021 #17
ok llashram Mar 2021 #18
The point about courage is muddied by the people insisting on balls or ovaries Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2021 #20
That's an interesting explanation Laha Mar 2021 #12
Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Mar 2021 #2
Stealing From The Poor And Powerless To Give To The Already Rich Is All Republicans Do DanieRains Mar 2021 #4
Doohnibor-ism - Robinhood in reverse wnylib Mar 2021 #5
Well, that was refreshing. Bluepinky Mar 2021 #6
Alright, Rep Tim Ryan! 👏 electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #7
Ryan learned this from his mentor, Jim Traficant JohnnyRingo Mar 2021 #8
Tim's an awesome Dem. oasis Mar 2021 #9
His righteous rant has gone viral! BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #16
That was a fucking walk off grand slam home run... ClusterFreak Mar 2021 #19
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Mar 2021 #21

Skittles

(153,174 posts)
1. ballsy?
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 01:54 AM
Mar 2021

why the fuck is *THE* most delicate body part used to describe courage? ENOUGH of that sexist bullshit.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
3. The origin has everything to do with vulnerability.
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 03:06 AM
Mar 2021

Basically you wouldn't normally expose vulnerable parts of the body to damage, so it takes courage to do that. It's a method of saying they put everything on the line. It's similar in usage to gutsy, because the gut is normally protected/shielded by most animals since it doesn't have a rib cage or other bones to protect it. Exposing ones gut is to risk evisceration.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,032 posts)
10. It's not the vulnerability, it's the SEXISM in linking courage to maleness!
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:10 AM
Mar 2021

The sexist assumption implicit is that one has to have "balls" to be brave or courageous or strong.

Every time somebody says "so and so has balls", the statement makes no sense unless the speaker is assuming one has to be male. It implicity says that male anatomy is desirable.

Especially bad is the sexism that says "you need balls to stand up to Republicans" or some such. As if ovaries are are disqualifying.

You could be less sexist and say "gonads", but then why the reference to sex organs at all?

Just say "guts" and be done with sexualization and sexism.

What year is this? 1961?



Fullduplexxx

(7,868 posts)
11. Nothing wrong with say she had the ovaries to do it if a woman were to have done that
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:15 AM
Mar 2021

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,032 posts)
13. So in your book, low sex-hormones or low sex-drive or in-between is DISQUALIFYING, it seems.
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:20 AM
Mar 2021

Why the sex obsession?

We want to get sex out of politics and positions of power. So don't drag it in where it doesn't belong.

Just drop it entirely. It is archaic and harmful! Get with the 21st century.

All this talk about honouring LGBTQ+ is just talk unless you really apply it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,032 posts)
14. The article applies "ballsy" to all US Representatives as if they all should be men. Not equal.
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:22 AM
Mar 2021

It's the implicit assumptions that have to be rooted out and stomped to death for generations until they don't come back.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
15. this
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:31 AM
Mar 2021

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,032 posts)
17. So you would leave TRANSgender, hystorectomies, and non-binary people out. No. Not "this"
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:36 AM
Mar 2021

A person can be a woman without ovaries. A person can be a man with out balls.

A PERSON IS A PERSON without regard to SEX ORGANS.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
18. ok
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:42 AM
Mar 2021

you can never read another person's mind. I would never leave anyone out of any debate no matter their sexual orientation or whether they have had a hysterectomy or not. You completely muddied the point here. Have a good day when you leave the room.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,032 posts)
20. The point about courage is muddied by the people insisting on balls or ovaries
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:49 AM
Mar 2021

Yes, we can't read thoughts. So use language carefully, as if people only have the language they hear or read and as if they can't read thoughts. Believe it.

Supporting LGBTQ+ means really thinking things through and dropping sexist language.

It is sexist to use sexual metaphors in non-sexual situations. It has no place.

Casual language has consequences! Apply progressive thinking to everything. Make it a habit. Purge sexist language from one's own thoughts.

Be the change you want to have happen. In things big and small.

Laha

(408 posts)
12. That's an interesting explanation
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:17 AM
Mar 2021

I've been trying to catch myself when I use terms for genitalia as a derogative. I'm male, but I've found I actually use male genitalia offensively far more than female. Most commonly just thinking of someone as a dick(not you or anyone here, just explaining.) It's really difficult to train yourself out of it.

Faux pas

(14,689 posts)
2. Kickin' with gusto!
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 02:33 AM
Mar 2021
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
4. Stealing From The Poor And Powerless To Give To The Already Rich Is All Republicans Do
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 03:33 AM
Mar 2021

It's called their MO.

wnylib

(21,562 posts)
5. Doohnibor-ism - Robinhood in reverse
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 03:48 AM
Mar 2021

Bluepinky

(2,276 posts)
6. Well, that was refreshing.
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 04:16 AM
Mar 2021

I like his fervor. Short and to the point, he did well calling out the right’s hypocrisy in voting for tax cuts for the wealthy. Glad he brought in the Dr Seuss reference.

electric_blue68

(14,927 posts)
7. Alright, Rep Tim Ryan! 👏
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 04:19 AM
Mar 2021

JohnnyRingo

(18,640 posts)
8. Ryan learned this from his mentor, Jim Traficant
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 04:23 AM
Mar 2021

The 3 minute speeches were a signature of the late Jim Traficant's tenure in the house. Most recall his famous "Beam me up" line at the end of one rage back in the '80s.

A young Tim Ryan staffed for him when he was fresh out of college, and yelling at Congress about the working man is one good thing he carried from that experience.

I don't doubt his sincerity one bit.

oasis

(49,398 posts)
9. Tim's an awesome Dem.
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 06:13 AM
Mar 2021

BumRushDaShow

(129,343 posts)
16. His righteous rant has gone viral!
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:32 AM
Mar 2021


(Joe Madison had the clip ready to play on his SiriusXM show this morning )

ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
19. That was a fucking walk off grand slam home run...
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 07:45 AM
Mar 2021

...to win the World Series.

In Game 7.

Oh, and with a mic drop.

Omaha Steve

(99,693 posts)
21. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 08:20 AM
Mar 2021

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