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Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:55 AM

Secret Service tried to cover up incident involving Hunter Biden's gun - report

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Source: The Guardian

The US Secret Service sought to cover up a bizarre incident in which a gun belonging to to Hunter Biden was dumped in a trash can behind a grocery store then found to be missing, the website Politico reported on Thursday.

Delaware police were concerned the gun, a .38 revolver, could be found and used in a crime, the website said, adding that it was eventually found by a man rummaging the trash for recycling. The Secret Service reportedly approached the store where the gun was purchased, seeking to obtain all records of the transaction. The owner reportedly declined.

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Politico said it had obtained copies of records relating to Hunter Biden’s purchase of the gun, on 12 October 2018. It said he answered “no” to a question about unlawful use or addiction to “marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance”.

“Five years earlier,” the website said, “he had been discharged from the US navy reserve after testing positive for cocaine, and he and family members have spoken about his history of drug use.

“Lying on the form is a felony, though prosecutions for it are exceedingly rare.”



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/25/hunter-biden-gun-cover-up-secret-service

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Reply Secret Service tried to cover up incident involving Hunter Biden's gun - report (Original post)
Calista241 Mar 25 OP
soothsayer Mar 25 #1
FalloutShelter Mar 25 #2
Calista241 Mar 25 #4
soothsayer Mar 25 #6
ScratchCat Mar 25 #10
stillcool Mar 25 #11
GregariousGroundhog Mar 25 #17
machoneman Mar 25 #43
PortTack Mar 25 #51
Mickju Mar 25 #55
Steelrolled Mar 25 #57
EndlessWire Mar 25 #56
George II Mar 25 #22
soothsayer Mar 25 #26
George II Mar 25 #29
soothsayer Mar 25 #35
tinymontgomery Mar 25 #42
ancianita Mar 25 #33
Moostache Mar 25 #3
George II Mar 25 #24
ScratchCat Mar 25 #5
Irish_Dem Mar 25 #7
MOMFUDSKI Mar 25 #8
stillcool Mar 25 #12
moose65 Mar 25 #25
brush Mar 25 #36
ShazzieB Mar 25 #41
luvs2sing Mar 25 #9
2naSalit Mar 25 #13
Calista241 Mar 25 #15
ancianita Mar 25 #34
liberalgunwilltravel Mar 25 #14
brush Mar 25 #40
George II Mar 25 #49
George II Mar 25 #16
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deurbano Mar 25 #31
ShazzieB Mar 25 #44
LiberalFighter Mar 25 #27
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:00 PM

1. the Secret Service would not have any involvement at the time, they have no record of it,


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helo I look for unconfirmed hit pieces on hunter biden by scrolling through glenn beck’s conspiracy theory website should I add that to the story



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Gee, it’s such a mystery - the Secret Service would not have any involvement at the time, they have no record of it, & only Glenn Beck’s site has spoken to it, but, hey, let’s include in our reporting

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:01 PM

2. The only gun in the country that Glen Beck and Politico are concerned with.

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Response to FalloutShelter (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:16 PM

4. I don't think they honestly care about the gun, they care about not prosecuting Biden's kid

For lying on the background check form (if what the article says about the form is true).

Expanding these Background checks are a major part of the Dem gun safety legislation. Can we still be taken seriously on this subject if we let it slide because he’s a Biden?

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:19 PM

6. They're a one trick pony with fake nooz about that private citizen

Ridiculous

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:50 PM

10. You are falling for the game here

The idea that Hunter lied on the federal form is what they have dreamed up. FIVE YEARS before he bought the gun, he was discharged from the reserves for a positive cocaine test. Five years prior.

What they are doing is this:

Start with: "Hey, this guy bought a gun and has also in the past claimed to have had drug addiction problems..... "

Pivot to an alleged incident that may be in Hunter's upcoming book..

Then jump to the illogical conclusion that "The Secret Service" interfered into a non-existent investigation pertaining to the federal form Biden would have filled out when he purchased the gun because ....... he wasn't prosecuted for "lying on the form" based upon the idea that he has "had drug addiction issues in the past". Because the Delaware State Police, upon discovering that Hunter Biden owns a firearm, should have forwarded that information to the DOJ(Trump's DOJ) and Biden should have been prosecuted for "lying" in October of 2018 because of a positive cocaine test in 2013.

See what they are doing?

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:57 PM

11. seriously

How about that laptop? It's kind of stunning that at this point, anyone would believe any of this crap, but every minute. Sad.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:07 PM

17. Except Hunter probably didn't lie

Hunter was administratively discharged from the military, but that is not the same as being criminally charged in a civilian court nor being court martialed in the military.

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Response to FalloutShelter (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:46 PM

43. Very odd for the Guardian not to require proof, even slim proof, of the Blaze's allegations.

Sad they stooped to a largely false report.

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Response to machoneman (Reply #43)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:32 PM

51. The guardian has become nothing more than a salacious grocery store tabloid

Not just this story...lots of others

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Response to PortTack (Reply #51)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:16 PM

55. I'm on the verge of cancelling my subscription.

They have been putting out more and more bullshit since Biden became President. I guess since Bernie didn't become President they have to denigrate the man who defeated him.

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Response to machoneman (Reply #43)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:59 PM

57. Guardian seems to have moved into some form of a tabloid.

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Response to FalloutShelter (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:04 PM

56. Good comment. n/t

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:22 PM

22. In other words there is no story, but Hunter Biden has been out of the news for too long.

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Response to George II (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:39 PM

26. In other words, Joe had a press conference scheduled for today

Guess what! No reporters wasted a question on this stupidity. Progress!

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:47 PM

29. Right. Sadly, though, they wasted questions on other stupidity (did you hear Kaitlin Collins?)

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Response to George II (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:17 PM

35. Yes

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Response to George II (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:32 PM

42. Was she the one that asked about him running again

and that by this time the other guy already had filed. Does he think he’ll be running against the other guy?
I also like he corrected the reporter that said so he is running, he put her right down for not listening to what he said.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:14 PM

33. What is up with the Guardian, ffs.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:05 PM

3. And queue the right wing rage machine in 3...2...1....

Anyone want to bet how many times this leads Hannity's broadcast in the next 6 months? I'm putting the over/under at 100...what do you take? The over? Or the under?

This kind of pap is EXACTLY what the right winger live for...I already want to puke.

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Response to Moostache (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:25 PM

24. Oh don't worry, I'm sure the email has already been written and sent out to the likes of....

Junior, Eric, Steve Guest, Brennan, et. al. for them to tweet en masse before dark. No doubt it'll be the lead story on Tucker's and Hannity's shows tonight.

Will there be a photo or Rudy holding it up, too?

Crap like this is ludicrous, makes me want to puke as well.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:17 PM

5. Politico has no way to obtain those forms

It would be illegal for the retailer to give them to anyone but BATF. Sorry, this is nonsense. The entire thing.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:20 PM

7. He better resign his elected office right this very minute.

Oh wait....

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:33 PM

8. Of course the rethugs lie ALL THE TIME

but I have to feel that Hunter IS a fuck-up and Joe and his people better keep a tight leash on that kid. No use giving ammo to the other side. Tell me I am wrong.

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Response to MOMFUDSKI (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:01 PM

12. you are wrong..

The 'other side' makes their ammo. They need no help. But they get it, no matter how many times they pull the same old crap, people fall for it. With no evidence. It's why this country is where it is.

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Response to MOMFUDSKI (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:35 PM

25. Hmmm.....

That "kid" is 51 years old.

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Response to MOMFUDSKI (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:24 PM

36. Do you actually believe that story? Enjoy your stay.

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Response to MOMFUDSKI (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:30 PM

41. You're wrong.

You said to tell you if you're wrong. You have now been told.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:50 PM

9. So convenient that this would break..

just before Biden’s press conference.

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Response to luvs2sing (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:30 PM

13. +1

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Response to luvs2sing (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:55 PM

15. Stuff always breaks at the most inconvenient time.

It's like a rule.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:16 PM

34. so that RW cable could use a distraction to compete with the presser

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:33 PM

14. Before or after

Did this occur before or after Hunter Biden flew 3,000 miles to drop off his incriminating laptop at some unknown repair shop only to leave it there?

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Response to liberalgunwilltravel (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:29 PM

40. Yes, and how and why did the gun in up in trash bin behind a store?

Are we to believe Hunter Biden supposedly throw it away like that?

These wingers have come up with more believable stories. And the Hunter Biden vein for their bullshit played out months ago. Haven't they heard? There's no there. Biden won the election months ago.

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Response to liberalgunwilltravel (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:27 PM

49. It wasn't a laptop, it was a MacBook with the LG logo on it! They even screwed up that story!

The "MacBook"



The invoice:

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:07 PM

16. If it's a Politico "article" that this one is based upon, why not use the Politico report?

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:11 PM

18. His gun is in a dumpster behind a grocery store, his laptop is left behind at a tiny repair shop.

What is with this guy?

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:11 PM

19. Why would the Guardian report that Politico reported something

and Politico reports that The Blaze reported something. Seems lazy.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:19 PM

21. That's what I was wondering, and is this truly a new development?

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:24 PM

23. "The Hunting of Hunter Biden" by Gene Lyons and Joe Conason. Available

soon at local bookstores.

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Response to oasis (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:52 PM

31. No kidding. And this time, it's not even the actual person running or serving as president.

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Response to deurbano (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:47 PM

44. Isn't it ironic?

Considering what a gross bunch of garbage people Chump's 3 oldest kids are, isn't it ironic how much the right likes to pick on Biden's oldest (surviving) son?

I guess it says something about Joe's record that Hunter is the only thing they can find to use against him. And even where Hunter is concerned, all they can manage to do is make up lies that are so riddled with holes that the rwnj's are the only ones who believe them. Pathetic.

It must be hard for Hannity and his ilk to have a Democratic president with historically high approval ratings doing a bang-up job. Sucks to be them these days.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:43 PM

27. Seems some people need to be sued.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:46 PM

28. So they're in favor of gun control for Hunter Biden?

Gee, I wonder who could be behind this?

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:50 PM

30. Question 21 e on the Federal Firearms Transaction record ask: Are you an unlawful user ...

Firearms Transaction Record

I'm not sure if that's the question they're referring to, but "are you" seems to ask about at the time of the transaction.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:09 PM

32. Shame on the guardian for picking this up, and for politico for reporting it at all.

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Response to ColinC (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:24 PM

37. Bullshit story laundering: Blaze - Politico - Guardian

Gaining a bit of faux-legitimacy with each echo in the chamber.

The story is entirely bullshit, just like the Giuliani/Stone/Trump Ukraine garbage.

It comes from the same sources.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:25 PM

38. Did they find a hard drive in the trash too?

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:26 PM

39. Here we go again. More RW gossip dressed up with a headline on MSM front page to distract us from

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much more important matters. I just love the timing and content. Not to mention that the Guardian appears to have been Dan Rathered.

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Edit: I read the politico story and while it reads like journalism I just don't see it being quite what they claim it is. There are a lot of assertions about different actions taken by Hunter and Hallie, along with the owners of the grocery and gun-store. I don't see references to interviews or other statements of attribution that I would expect in such a situation.

It could have gone down as described or in a form like it, I suppose. It's just that the timing of the article's release seems rather related to the current debate on gun control. If I read it correctly this whole thing happened in 2018 and was completed in that time.

So why do the Guardian and Politico publish it now as if it was last week? Where are the independent witnesses with cell phones blazing video, and blog posts asserting they were there? Compare this coverage or any coverage of any part to how "pizza gate" was covered.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:02 PM

45. Why are we discussing something that is obviously completely made up?

This has one "source" with no supporting evidence, and it's just parroted by another source.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:04 PM

46. Clickbait

 

This article leads with a sensationalist headline, then dissects a nothing-burger. There's important work to be done. Let's get to it.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:16 PM

47. And we are supposed to believe

a licensed federal firearms dealer refused to cooperate with a Secret Service investigation? An investigation that would actually be conducted by ATF agents?

This has 100% made up story written all over it.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:17 PM

48. Cute story.

The woods (and Republicans) are full of them.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:29 PM

50. So Politico...being the trusted news worthy org (BIG SNARK) spreads this story

They are horrible!

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:53 PM

52. Meh.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:12 PM

53. It will be an interesting investigation

Maybe a different Hunter Biden? I have an unusual name and there are people with my name all over the country.

Did he buy it because he was contemplating suicide? I see this a lot in people who struggle against addictions, they've all got a plan and some of them have the means. It would be consistent with throwing the gun away in a more lucid moment.

Whatever the story, he gets due process like everybody else.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:13 PM

54. We know that some of the Secret Service were on Team Trump.

So maybe the agents who showed up at the gun shop were there unofficially, on behalf of themselves and Trump, and that's why there were no records.

The ATF found nothing of concern because they were doing their jobs, which isn't to do Trump's bidding.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 08:52 AM

58. Locking...

Forum Hosts agree this is a feature story, not LBN. Feel free to post the news in the General Discussions Forum

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