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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 07:18 PM Apr 2021

Manchin after border visit: 'Past time to do immigration reform'

Source: The Hill

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said on Thursday after visiting the U.S.-Mexico border that it is "past time" for Congress to address immigration reform, including a path to citizenship, and called the border surge a "crisis."

"It is beyond time, past time, to do immigration reform. Immigration reform should be a pathway to citizenship. People that have been here, they might have come here the wrong way but they came here for the right reason," Manchin said during a press conference.

"We have children that came here that have no other home but America.There should be a pathway for that, for our dreamers," he added.

Manchin and Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) toured the U.S.-Mexico border on Thursday, including taking a helicopter and boat tour with Customs and Border Protection. They also visited a Laredo, Texas, port of entry and met with migrant families.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-after-border-visit-past-time-to-do-immigration-reform/ar-BB1fduFL?li=BBnbfcL

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Manchin after border visit: 'Past time to do immigration reform' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 OP
If you really mean that, Joe... you will FalloutShelter Apr 2021 #1
Perhaps... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #2
I surely hope so. FalloutShelter Apr 2021 #3
We'll find out when he votes. 2naSalit Apr 2021 #5
Words words words they are so easy Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #4
Waiting for the Manchin bill. earthside Apr 2021 #6
What about people like my wife who tried to enter here with a legally issued, valid visa AZLD4Candidate Apr 2021 #7
Couldn't you have spoken with her while she was sobbing in Detroit? Politicub Apr 2021 #9
I did speak to her. I was in Arizona. She was in Detriot on the plane. AZLD4Candidate Apr 2021 #10
I'm sorry that happened. And I apologize for my flippant post. Politicub Apr 2021 #12
Been separated since August due to Chinese imposed COVID19 visa changes to work visas AZLD4Candidate Apr 2021 #13
Whatever gets you to yes, Joe. ancianita Apr 2021 #8
I won't believe him w/o his support of voting rights IbogaProject Apr 2021 #11

FalloutShelter

(11,860 posts)
1. If you really mean that, Joe... you will
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 07:24 PM
Apr 2021

help us nuke the filibuster, because that is the only way we can get this achieved.

Just sayin'.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
6. Waiting for the Manchin bill.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:51 PM
Apr 2021

Sen. Manchin's immigration reform legislation will have to get 60 votes ... I hope he can get it drafted, I'm sure we'd all like to see it.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,688 posts)
7. What about people like my wife who tried to enter here with a legally issued, valid visa
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 02:46 AM
Apr 2021

but because it had the wrong letter on it to do her green card and be with her American citizen husband, the CBP kicked her out of the country and wouldn't let me speak to her until she was on the plane back home to Shanghai when she was sobbing in Detroit?

What about that as well, Joe?

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
9. Couldn't you have spoken with her while she was sobbing in Detroit?
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 09:55 AM
Apr 2021

That would imply you were both in the U.S.

If you have an administrative problem with a green card (green cards are very hard to get, btw, so you had cleared a major hurdle already), an immigration lawyer can assist you.

That’s outside of the scope of immigration reform.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,688 posts)
10. I did speak to her. I was in Arizona. She was in Detriot on the plane.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 10:49 AM
Apr 2021

Too bad, after three days of not having her phone and not being able to charge it (because she was thrown in airport jail in solitary confinement), I could only talk to her for less than five minutes. Also, she kept saying in Mandarin "they are watching me" and that "she was terrified."

It wasn't an administrative problem. . .they didn't let her into the country.

Yes it is an immigration reform issue. No one should separate families at all and foreign spouses of American citizens should not be turned away at the border.

And the immigration attorney I have told me he could do nothing. And the representative I spoke to at USCIS said "she won't have a problem entering. Just write a letter to give the immigration officers explaining who she is and what she is planning to do. She has a visa and you as her husband. She will pass right through."

I do not want to sound flippant, but thank you for the empathy. The CBP protected the country from a 31 year old kindergarten teacher and an American citizen's spouse. But we can lock up people at the border with no problems, so separating an American from their spouse is easy.

BTW, according to her, she was subjected to anti-Chinese insults by the CBP officers, denied the ability to go the bathroom except when they told her, kept her in a room with a mattress that hadn't been cleaned in years, and since I was told I couldn't prove I was her husband, I had no right to speak to her (also being threatened with arrest because I was "tying up their lines with my [expletive]" and they "didn't appreciate that&quot .

As I said to my senator, this could be solved simply. Amend the law to state that if an American citizen has been married to a foreigner for at least five years (and can prove it), a visa to the US with intent of immigrating will be AUTOMATICALLY issued to the spouse, or any visa that the spouse has will be accepted at the border if proof can be given that the foreign spouse intends to immigrate.

I'm sure your family didn't have the proper paperwork when they came here. I know my father's side didn't when they came here in the 1820s because we still have all their paperwork. My mother's side (my mother was adopted by an Italian family) didn't in the 1890s. We are not, now, in the business of accepting foreigners. We are in the business of telling foreigners "no vacancy."

Also, on the plane, she told me when she got back home, that there was a Korean woman sitting next to her that was denied entry and kicked out, even though she had a valid work visa and a job in Seattle for Microsoft. She showed my wife the contract.

Green cards are not hard to get through marriage. They were made hard by the Orange Menace.

Please tell me your post isn't implying I am a terrible husband. Because you are the first person since it happened I told that hasn't told me that what they did was wrong, anti-American, unbelievable, or that "this needs to be changed." Your post seems to imply that what happened, and happens to a lot of people coming here in my wife's position, was justified and correct. I hope that wasn't your meaning. If it wasn't, please clarify. If it was, I am speechless.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
12. I'm sorry that happened. And I apologize for my flippant post.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:16 PM
Apr 2021

I can’t imagine how much it would hurt and how awful it would feel to be separated like that from your wife.

I have a lot to learn about immigration.

Are you together now?

AZLD4Candidate

(5,688 posts)
13. Been separated since August due to Chinese imposed COVID19 visa changes to work visas
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:36 PM
Apr 2021

Were supposed to be together on Feb 27th. Won't be together again until the earliest December.

The US government separated my family and so few in our government cared. I am hoping she doesn't have a travel ban.

It was the last straw that made me decide to run for elected office.

I accept your apology. Please understand that anyone coming here, either undocumented or documented, falls under immigration.

IbogaProject

(2,811 posts)
11. I won't believe him w/o his support of voting rights
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 11:49 AM
Apr 2021

I won't believe him w/o his support of voting rights. This is just easy posturing if we can't pass it with or without his support.

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