Biden announces limited gun restrictions as pressure rises following mass shootings
Source: CNN
"Gun violence in this country is an epidemic," Biden said in the Rose Garden to an audience of lawmakers and Americans touched by gun violence. "And it's an international embarrassment."
The executive actions -- which Biden repeatedly argued did nothing to impinge on the Second Amendment right to bear arms -- include efforts to restrict weapons known as "ghost guns" that can be built using parts and instructions purchased online.
The moves are limited in scope and fall short of the steps Biden has vowed to pressure Congress to take. Still, they fulfilled his pledge last month to take "common-sense" steps on his own, and one move -- more heavily regulating arm braces used to make firing a pistol more accurate -- directly relates to the March shooting in Boulder, Colorado, where such a device was used.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/08/politics/gun-actions-joe-biden/index.html
Tndem615
(77 posts)Nothing substantive. So banning a arm brace whatever that is, wont do anything. Not even bringing back the old assault gun ban.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)of them out there to retroactively require a $200 tax stamp will survive the inevitable court challenge. As for a new assault weapons ban, the votes aren't there.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)Martin68
(22,794 posts)brooklynite
(94,520 posts)Martin68
(22,794 posts)sound that. Do you always jump to conclusions like that?
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)...despite his Constritutional limitations. You chose to disagree.
Martin68
(22,794 posts)into my comment that just aren't there. I made a direct statement that is critical of the Republican Congress that failed at every turn to prevent Trump's excesses and immoral policies.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,688 posts)You are making a logical leap and NRA talking points are not welcome here, last time I checked.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)An assault weapons ban requires Congressional approval, as it did last time. Biden can't just sign an EO.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,688 posts)to explain how to enforce already passed law.
Please stop with NRA talking points.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,688 posts)But you can infer anything you wish.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)If he CAN, and he DIDN'T, what can we determine from that?
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,323 posts)beyond the scope of discussing the limits of executive orders in general and the subject of this thread in particular.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)much done legislatively...might want to consider that.
maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)Maybe you haven't noticed that Congress, and specifically the Senate, is broken?
Even symbolic actions will be greeted with slippery-slope fallacies and rending of garments by the Gunners.
"Welcome to DU" is what I'm supposed to write now. Enjoy your stay.
pandr32
(11,581 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)That's something that's actually within his authority to enact through an EO. As for other actions...what did you expect him to do?
pandr32
(11,581 posts)Reinstating something like the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act would have been nice.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Somehow, I suspect you knew that already.
pandr32
(11,581 posts)I had hoped that some version of it could be enacted with EO. Thanks for prompting me to take a moment and look it up to find that we need Congress to act on this.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)for assuming that you were, when in fact you were not. In any case, I'm happy to have been the catalyst for better information.
pandr32
(11,581 posts)NickB79
(19,236 posts)All AR's in the US are made here. Even AK's are being made here now.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)rifles. A lot of AK parts kits, magazines, etc. are being imported right now.
Martin68
(22,794 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Martin68
(22,794 posts)in urban areas. Otherwise, what's the point?
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Martin68
(22,794 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Martin68
(22,794 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Now, when the next high profile mass shooting occurs (as it surely will), he can say "I've done everything I can".
AZLD4Candidate
(5,688 posts)What he did was a safe position to take? Making it safer would be to say "if Congress passes a comprehensive bill, I will sign it. But until then, this is all I am legally and constitutionally allowed to do to help stem this epidemic."
Of course, there will be people on both side that scream it's too much/not enough, but politicians don't really listen to that. Unless they are the Republicans who have been take over by them.
Restrict possession of assault guns and large capacity handguns by executive order. Ban sales of guns over the Internet. Mandate registration and training of all gun owners.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)I've purchased five firearms over the internet in the last week. Every one of them is being shipped to a local dealer, and a background check will be performed for each one. Granted, a private sale in which the seller is in one's own state doesn't require such a check in most states, but the vast majority of internet sales go through an FFL.
sarisataka
(18,633 posts)Which isn't much.
EO's have been hyped so much that people think they are a way to institute laws without legislation. They are simply directives on existing laws; they can't create anything that isn't already there.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Maxheader
(4,373 posts)from all the wild bill outdoorsy type places..names, addresses..
and start picking them up. Of course you need to pass a law
like before..banning these types of weapons. Least I believe
they used to be illegal....
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)While it outlawed manufacture and (civilian) possession of assault weapons and high capacity magazines manufactured during that period, the sale and possesion of those manufactured previous to 1994 (known then as "pre-ban" guns and magazines) was perfectly legal.
In 1999, one could buy a pre-ban AR-15 and a 100 round magazine, albeit at inflated prices. Assualt weapons and high capacity magazines have never been illegal to own at the national level.
getagrip_already
(14,742 posts)As much as I'd like to see easy access to guns knocked back to the stone age, gun rights remain the third rail of right wing politics. Any changes will be fought tooth and nail, no matter how minor.
And the faux outrage does get people to the polls, and raises money for the gop.
So by starting with the easy pieces, which most of the public will be able to understand, we are forcing the windbags to use their ammo (so to speak) early.
By the time more significant proposals come around, the public will be used to them.
So what are "ghost guns"? They come in 2 main categories; so-called 80% gun kits and unregistered components which can be added to 3d printed parts to produce working firearms (or to turn semi-automatics into automatics).
80% kits are just mostly finished, but non-firing parts kits that can be finished with simple workshop tools. Anyone with a tool-guy workshop can finish them.
They allow legal, yet untraceable, parts to be quickly turned into working firearms.
The other mods just let you take a semiautomatic gun and make it act more like an automatic with accuracy and ease of handling.
Gun owners themselves aren't in love with these issues, and know they can still legally buy pretty much whatever they want.
Start small, get public support, and move larger. Besides, there is a limit to what you can do through exec orders. They aren't actual legislation.
So I'm not terribly dissapointed with these limited steps. The real work is in congress, and with even bernie resisting gun laws, we have to work on our own as well.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)with an estimated 10 to 40 million of them out there. Telling tens of millions of guns owners that they have to register their chunk of plastic with the FBI, get fingerprinted, and shell out a couple of hundred bucks for the privilege will mobilize a lot more of them.
Presuming it survives a court challenge, which I think is unlikely.
maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)And kept in a constant state of rage by the Gun Lobby and it's politicians.
What are they going to do, start parading through state capitols open-carrying MSSAs?
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)As I pointed out, the EO on braces has the potential to impaact tens of millions of gun owners. Not all of those are currrently policially active by any means.
maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)Is there any measure Biden could take as an EO that wouldn't mobilize more previously unmobilized gun owners?
These 2% slopes are so slippery...
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)would draw the ire of any but a handful of gun owners.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)I've been going back and forth over whether to build a Ruger Charger with an arm brace for a lightweight plinker and small game gun, and I kept going back to the "this will be banned eventually" line of thought to not do it. It's just a workaround to getting a SBR without the $200 tax stamp.
No one uses an arm brace as an arm brace. Since the moment they came out they've been used as stocks. And the ATF really screwed up when they issued a ruling saying they're legal even if shouldered.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Anyone with the desire to commit a massacre with one can simply buy an AR pistol without a brace and add the collapsable stock from a standard AR-15 to it.
Aerator
(189 posts)Right now there is a active shooting going on in Brazos county Texas with multiple people down several critical at a factory. It sounds like a chase is going on with one officer down.
Manifest Desmond
(19 posts)There is, after all, a limited amount of action a President can take, especially with so many wingnuts and cowards in Washington