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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:26 AM Apr 2021

Supreme Court strikes another pandemic-related restriction on religious services

Source: Washington Post



By Robert Barnes
April 10, 2021 at 8:55 a.m. EDT

In another late-night ruling, the Supreme Court on Friday blocked another California coronavirus restriction on religious gatherings, saying the state’s limits on home-based Bible-study and prayer sessions violated constitutional rights.

The 5-to-4 order on an emergency petition illustrates how a new majority on the court — with Justice Amy Coney Barrett playing a decisive role — is now in control when the court considers if pandemic-related restrictions cross the line to endanger religious rights.

Constitutional protections are implicated any time a state treats “any comparable secular activity more favorably than religious exercise,” the majority wrote. “It is no answer that a state treats some comparable secular businesses or other activities as poorly as or even less favorably than the religious exercise at issue.”

In this case, the majority said, gatherings of more than three households were banned at prayer meetings in homes even though California permits “hair salons, retail stores, personal care services, movie theaters, private suites at sporting events and concerts, and indoor restaurants to bring together more than three households at a time.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-california-coronavirus-church/2021/04/10/182faec2-99e8-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html

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Supreme Court strikes another pandemic-related restriction on religious services (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2021 OP
Let them test God. Thomas Hurt Apr 2021 #1
Exactly Warpy Apr 2021 #15
Mother Nature has her ways of leveling the playing field. roamer65 Apr 2021 #27
Some day a health care provider will decline to treat these folks using the same religious objection Raven123 Apr 2021 #2
Once again, make believe triumphs over science. Sibelius Fan Apr 2021 #3
Hell, let these yahoos pray to their GOD! (even though he already gave them his answer) bluestarone Apr 2021 #4
How about when they try to treat secular activity less favorably than religious belief? bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #5
Avoid RW Christians to avoid contagious diseases. NCjack Apr 2021 #6
Right wing fundamentalism is a mental disease. roamer65 Apr 2021 #25
Death over religious restriction. A word of advice: ananda Apr 2021 #7
Hideous! Mickju Apr 2021 #8
Here we go again seta1950 Apr 2021 #9
This sounds rational to me, but need to read decision. elleng Apr 2021 #10
I see it the same way. bluestarone Apr 2021 #11
Good. Will follow up. elleng Apr 2021 #14
The dissent is also rational - and not at all like many of the posts here FBaggins Apr 2021 #12
And smacks down the 9th circuit pretty aggressively while doing so. FBaggins Apr 2021 #13
Hope you don't agree with this bullshit ruling. Elessar Zappa Apr 2021 #21
Which part? FBaggins Apr 2021 #22
Fine. I'm done worrying about these people. Raven Apr 2021 #16
And so religion gets to continue its destructive force on humanity. PSPS Apr 2021 #17
Amy Coney Barrett just sent more true believers to heaven LiberalLovinLug Apr 2021 #18
Businesses in Calif. have a mask mandate torius Apr 2021 #19
Reason #1,000,001 to balance the courts. BigmanPigman Apr 2021 #20
Disappointing Democrats_win Apr 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Apr 2021 #24
🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠 roamer65 Apr 2021 #26
pack that sucker... myohmy2 Apr 2021 #28

Warpy

(111,419 posts)
15. Exactly
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 02:42 PM
Apr 2021

This disease is just a trial run. The next one is likely to be devastating, on the order of smallpox with a 30% death rate or worse,

The faithful will meet their maker a lot sooner than they'd planned. They will try to take the rest of us with them.

bluestarone

(17,102 posts)
4. Hell, let these yahoos pray to their GOD! (even though he already gave them his answer)
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:47 AM
Apr 2021

The MASK DUMMIES, The MASK!

bucolic_frolic

(43,450 posts)
5. How about when they try to treat secular activity less favorably than religious belief?
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:54 AM
Apr 2021

Like in abortions. Does that apply? Where is the right wing fascist SCOTUS on that one?

So you think we have a legal wedge in there? Flip the argument back on them. They established the principle here.

roamer65

(36,748 posts)
25. Right wing fundamentalism is a mental disease.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:49 PM
Apr 2021

They should be sent to deprogramming facilities....seriously.

IT’S A CULT.

ananda

(28,892 posts)
7. Death over religious restriction. A word of advice:
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:33 AM
Apr 2021

Avoid ALL Republicans and rightwing so-called xtians.

The QOP really is a death cult, fullblown and worse
than any other threat to our lives or national security.

elleng

(131,296 posts)
10. This sounds rational to me, but need to read decision.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:58 PM
Apr 2021

'gatherings of more than three households were banned at prayer meetings in homes even though California permits “hair salons, retail stores, personal care services, movie theaters, private suites at sporting events and concerts, and indoor restaurants to bring together more than three households at a time.”'

FBaggins

(26,783 posts)
12. The dissent is also rational - and not at all like many of the posts here
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 01:23 PM
Apr 2021

It appears unanimous that the state cannot treat secular gatherings differently from religious gatherings. It's just a question of where to make the comparison. The majority looks at the examples that you cited where more than three families could gather... while the dissent points out that the state restricts all gatherings in homes that include more than three households (religious or secular).

FBaggins

(26,783 posts)
13. And smacks down the 9th circuit pretty aggressively while doing so.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 01:34 PM
Apr 2021
This is the fifth time the Court has summarily rejected the Ninth Circuit’s analysis of California’s COVID restrictions on religious exercise. See Harvest Rock Church v. Newsom, 592 U. S. ___ (2020); South Bay, 592 U. S. ___; Gish v. Newsom, 592 U. S. ___ (2021); Gateway City, 592 U. S. ___. It is unsurprising that such litigants are entitled to relief.

FBaggins

(26,783 posts)
22. Which part?
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:51 PM
Apr 2021

I don't know enough about the policy involved to evaluate. But as I said... the dissent seems reasonable.

The underlying rationale of the majority (that CA can't treat religious activities worse than comparable secular activities) doesn't seem that controversial.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
18. Amy Coney Barrett just sent more true believers to heaven
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 04:21 PM
Apr 2021

The right to assemble, during a pandemic, now with wildly contagious new variants, in order to prop up each others beliefs of fairy tales, is more important than the health and quite literally the life and death of those assemblers.

Got it

torius

(1,652 posts)
19. Businesses in Calif. have a mask mandate
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 04:47 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Sat Apr 10, 2021, 05:19 PM - Edit history (1)

and social distancing and capacity rules. The capacity rules are determined by virus numbers in the county. Restrictions may or may not be lifted in June. Homes do not have these mandates, so how can the Court say it's equivalent? Hooey.

Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
23. Disappointing
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:49 PM
Apr 2021

Religion should be working to save its members and the community from this disease. They shouldn't be running to the courts over such a trivial slight. They are acting badly.

Is the court's ruling correct? It comes down to a judgement: are hair salons more important than the practice of religion? Should they be treated the same. Clearly a doctor's office visit is more important but that's not at issue here. Sadly a stacked Supreme court cannot be trusted anymore. Like "religion," they no longer have the good judgement to exist! For the court, it's been that way for a while. There is no doubt that these so-called "religions" are not following God anymore.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

roamer65

(36,748 posts)
26. 🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:52 PM
Apr 2021

Would you like to meet your maker, RW fundies? I can assist you with that endeavor!

Hugs and kisses,

Your friendly SARS virus.

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