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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 03:25 PM Apr 2021

Pete Buttigieg To Reluctant Evangelicals: 'Maybe A Vaccine Is Part Of God's Plan'

Source: Huffington Post

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg on Sunday encouraged evangelical Christians who are reluctant to get vaccinated against COVID-19 to consider that the shots might be a “part of God’s plan.”

“State of the Union” host Jake Tapper asked Buttigieg, an Episcopalian, about the large portion of white evangelicals who say they won’t get a COVID-19 vaccine. About 40% of white evangelical Protestants said they likely would not get vaccinated, according to a poll conducted last month, compared to about 25% of all Americans, 28% of white mainline Protestants and 27% of Protestants who are not white.

“I’ve heard people I care about saying, you know, ‘If I’m faithful, God’s going to take care of me,’” Buttigieg said. “And I guess what I would hope that they might consider is that maybe a vaccine is part of God’s plan for how you’re going to take care of yourself.”

Buttigieg acknowledged during the exchange on CNN that his opinion on the matter may not sway many white evangelicals, and he urged faith leaders to speak out in support of vaccines.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/pete-buttigieg-evangelicals-covid-19-vaccine-150017346.html

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Pete Buttigieg To Reluctant Evangelicals: 'Maybe A Vaccine Is Part Of God's Plan' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 OP
Reminds me of the joke wryter2000 Apr 2021 #1
My first thought. 3catwoman3 Apr 2021 #3
I JUST thought of that when I saw the headline! CurtEastPoint Apr 2021 #5
THANKS! elleng Apr 2021 #7
Can't fix 'stupidity' nt Justice matters. Apr 2021 #12
Have always liked that one. niyad Apr 2021 #39
Similar joke: forgotmylogin Apr 2021 #46
LOL wryter2000 Apr 2021 #49
For those who believe in a divine plan, wouldn't it also be part... 3catwoman3 Apr 2021 #2
You're going to hell for that wryter2000 Apr 2021 #6
And probably for this too - Trump occupying the White... 3catwoman3 Apr 2021 #8
Actually, Roman's 13 addresses this: VarryOn Apr 2021 #21
Good point. Joe Biden is a Christian who attends church religiously Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #33
Yes! White evangelicals bleated incessantly that God put Trump in the White House. Lonestarblue Apr 2021 #45
God put trump in the Whitehouse Betty88 Apr 2021 #47
Mayor Pete knows those religious fundies pretty well FakeNoose Apr 2021 #4
Just another example of the "meaning" of the BuyBull being open Sibelius Fan Apr 2021 #9
If it'll convince someone to get vaccinated Elessar Zappa Apr 2021 #11
Just like Rs allow make believe to convince them of things. Sibelius Fan Apr 2021 #16
I May Be Harsh, Especially Since I Have Family Members Who Refuse To Get Vaccinated, Or To Mask.... COL Mustard Apr 2021 #24
What these people are saying is that the faithful will not get sick from the Covid virus. patphil Apr 2021 #10
Piety did not protect against the Black Death DBoon Apr 2021 #17
If They Die, Then Clearly Their Faith Wasn't Strong Enough COL Mustard Apr 2021 #25
At least death removes it from the playing field. patphil Apr 2021 #27
Secretary Pete is such a Mensch dickthegrouch Apr 2021 #13
Boycott the Catholic Church ....NOW!!! Mary in S. Carolina Apr 2021 #14
The Catholics aren't the problem wrt the vaccine; it's the Protestant evangelicals. Ocelot II Apr 2021 #20
You are soooo wrong!!!! Mary in S. Carolina Apr 2021 #22
How do you figure that's going to happen? Ocelot II Apr 2021 #23
We have a 1st amendment right too!! Mary in S. Carolina Apr 2021 #31
I'm not sticking up for it. I'm just pointing out that Ocelot II Apr 2021 #41
It's a little late for Scalia. 😉 ShazzieB Apr 2021 #28
I like your IDIC image. 3catwoman3 Apr 2021 #40
Why'd you leave out Sonia Sotomayor? Polybius Apr 2021 #43
I'm perfectly willing to allow them to test their plan to strengthen the gene pool bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #15
Jesus himself would not jump from the temple when the devil tempted him... Thomas Hurt Apr 2021 #18
I really like Sectary Pete LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #19
We were given a brain with the expectation that we would use it. appleannie1 Apr 2021 #26
If I thought Donald Trump was part of God's plan I'd wonder about vaccines too. hay rick Apr 2021 #29
"GOD WILL SAVE ME" is bullshit! Thunderbeast Apr 2021 #30
I thought the vaccine was supposed to be... MissMillie Apr 2021 #32
Trump and his wives took theirs. Historic NY Apr 2021 #38
Maybe because I was raised Jewish, I think it arrogant for one to think he/she knows G-d's thoughts rickyhall Apr 2021 #34
If God doesn't want humans to apply their own ingenuity, I want a different God. eppur_se_muova Apr 2021 #35
Darwin had a plan too, which apparently many refusniks ascribe to. Historic NY Apr 2021 #36
As Speaker Pelosi put it, "Science is god's answer to prayer." niyad Apr 2021 #37
Probably Mayor Pete isn't the best messenger to this group... regnaD kciN Apr 2021 #42
I don't know... myohmy2 Apr 2021 #44
Get some cognitive dissonance going! BlueWavePsych Apr 2021 #48

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
1. Reminds me of the joke
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 03:29 PM
Apr 2021

A man sitting on his roof as the flood waters rise. A boat comes by and the people tell him to get in. He answers, "God will take care of me." After a bit, a helicopter hovers overhead and lowers a basket to him. The pilot uses the PA system to tell the man to get in the basket. He answers, "God will take care of me."

The flood waters continue to rise, and eventually, the man drowns. When he gets to the Pearly Gates he tells St. Peter, "I thought God would take care of me." St. Peter answers, "Didn't you see the boat? Didn't you see the helicopter?"

Signed, another Episcopalian.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
3. My first thought.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 03:32 PM
Apr 2021

I’m too slow a typist so I’m glad you put this up. I’d still be hunting and pecking.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
46. Similar joke:
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 09:24 AM
Apr 2021

A man prays and prays for years for God to let him win the lottery.

Finally a thunderous voice with trumpets fills the air when the man is praying before bed, "Ralph. This is God. Either meet me halfway and buy a lottery ticket or stop asking."

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
2. For those who believe in a divine plan, wouldn't it also be part...
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 03:29 PM
Apr 2021

....of that plan that Joe Biden was elected -

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
21. Actually, Roman's 13 addresses this:
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:34 PM
Apr 2021

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

I've used that verse many a time with Republican friends. Of course, I've had it fired back at every a few times, too, lol

Rhiannon12866

(205,277 posts)
33. Good point. Joe Biden is a Christian who attends church religiously
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:15 PM
Apr 2021

Trump gasses people who are at church, including priests.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
45. Yes! White evangelicals bleated incessantly that God put Trump in the White House.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:21 AM
Apr 2021

If everything happens according to God’s will, then why do evangelicals try to impose their will on everything that happens, as in believing that Biden did not win the election?

That is so much the hypocrisy that I see in Republicans and their white evangelical supporters. It’s God’s will when they agree with the results. It’s cheating by progressives and liberals when they do not.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
4. Mayor Pete knows those religious fundies pretty well
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 03:36 PM
Apr 2021

He grew up and lived in South Bend Indiana, where lots of religious groups are all around there. Even a lot of Amish living in that state. So he knows how to talk to them.

Sibelius Fan

(24,396 posts)
9. Just another example of the "meaning" of the BuyBull being open
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 03:56 PM
Apr 2021

to whatever interpretation advances one’s agenda.

Sibelius Fan

(24,396 posts)
16. Just like Rs allow make believe to convince them of things.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:14 PM
Apr 2021

So sad that the science alone - which is, after all, reality - is not enough of a bludgeon to use when it comes to people getting vaccinated.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
24. I May Be Harsh, Especially Since I Have Family Members Who Refuse To Get Vaccinated, Or To Mask....
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:14 PM
Apr 2021

Or to socially distance, but if someone is too stubborn, stupid, ignorant, defiant, or whatever other adjective you want to use, I say screw 'em. I'm not sure I want them getting vaccinated. Let them improve the gene pool by leaving it.




(All those are at them, not at you! )

patphil

(6,172 posts)
10. What these people are saying is that the faithful will not get sick from the Covid virus.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 03:57 PM
Apr 2021

All they have to do is truly believe that God will protect them, and they will be protected.
That's basically demanding that God intervene in a strictly biological process that has been around for millennia; the whole infectious disease thing which has killed many hundreds of millions of people for as far back as there are human records to record these things.
So, they test God. Good luck with that.
There is a phrase: "God helps those who help themselves".
You wouldn't walk out naked into a howling blizzard, expecting God to protect you from the cold, would you?
Why would you walk out unprotected (naked) into a pandemic and expect God to protect you?
It's pretty arrogant.
It also isn't going to work. Evangelicals get sick and die just like everyone else. It may be God's way of testing you; giving you what you need to see how spiritually mature you really are. Irrational belief in being so special that God will intervene just for you is a spiritually immature attitude. Pure and simple bull crap!

patphil

(6,172 posts)
27. At least death removes it from the playing field.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:27 PM
Apr 2021

Unfortunately, stupid is very resilient, and has a very deep bench of replacement stupid.

dickthegrouch

(3,173 posts)
13. Secretary Pete is such a Mensch
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:04 PM
Apr 2021

But I'd have answered along the lines of "Go ahead, ignore the vaccine. You're deplorable enough to meet your maker (satan) early"
Yes it might cause a scandal, but they deserve to be kicked from here to Sunday into doing the right thing, which is protect the rest of us from their stupidity.

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
14. Boycott the Catholic Church ....NOW!!!
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:09 PM
Apr 2021

I have 7 cousins named Mary and 6 Supreme Court Justices that are Catholic!!!! It is time to boycott the Catholic Church!!! Excommunicate Roberts, Coney Barrett, Alito, Kavanaugh and Scalia!!

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
20. The Catholics aren't the problem wrt the vaccine; it's the Protestant evangelicals.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:32 PM
Apr 2021

The Pope told them to get vaccinated. The Catholic church has plenty of other problems, to be sure, but they aren't pushing the antivax thing like the evilgelicals.

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
22. You are soooo wrong!!!!
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:49 PM
Apr 2021

No one and I mean "no one" has more power than the Catholics on the Supreme Court. Americans and Mexican must reject the Catholic religion; the Pope must excommunicate all Supreme Court Justices that back republican ideas...now!!

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
23. How do you figure that's going to happen?
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:53 PM
Apr 2021

And don't we have a First Amendment that allows people to practice whatever religion they choose?

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
31. We have a 1st amendment right too!!
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:11 PM
Apr 2021

We have our 1st Amendment rights too ....I have a right to boycott the Catholic religion!!! Why are you sticking up for a religion that allows for Mexican children being ripped from their parents arms, or a religion that is "ok" with the sexual abuse of children, or a Supreme Court that supports, the "devil"..Trump. Contact the Pope and have the Catholic Supreme Court justices excommunicate. Now!!

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
41. I'm not sticking up for it. I'm just pointing out that
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:39 PM
Apr 2021

contacting the Pope and urging him to excommunicate people we don't like just isn't going to happen. You can boycott any church you want. Joe Biden is Catholic, too, btw. Should he be excommunicated as well?

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
28. It's a little late for Scalia. 😉
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:52 PM
Apr 2021

He would have been replaced by Merrick Garland, if not for Moscow Mitch. Instead we got Gorsuch.

Also: Sotomayor is Catholic, but she's one of the liberals!

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
18. Jesus himself would not jump from the temple when the devil tempted him...
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:18 PM
Apr 2021

saying that was testing God and a no-no.

Not sure why refusing vaccinations and exposing yourself to viruses is different than subjecting yourself to the whims of gravity.

hay rick

(7,608 posts)
29. If I thought Donald Trump was part of God's plan I'd wonder about vaccines too.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:58 PM
Apr 2021

Clearly, the Big Guy already proved he hates us...

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
34. Maybe because I was raised Jewish, I think it arrogant for one to think he/she knows G-d's thoughts
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:26 PM
Apr 2021

Just saying...

eppur_se_muova

(36,261 posts)
35. If God doesn't want humans to apply their own ingenuity, I want a different God.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:41 PM
Apr 2021

I never did vote for this one in the first place, so he's not my God. That's how it works for Uglicans.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
42. Probably Mayor Pete isn't the best messenger to this group...
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:06 PM
Apr 2021

...since everybody knows he's openly...Episcopalian.

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)
44. I don't know...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:43 AM
Apr 2021

...I just spoke with my God and asked Him, (it was a Him ), what should they do?

...He said, "Croak"

...

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