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Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:41 PM

Chris Christie accuses Biden of 'lying' about infrastructure bill

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Source: Daily Mail

Chris Christie has accused President Joe Biden of 'lying' about the contents of a massive infrastructure spending proposal -- but quickly faced questions about his own credentials on infrastructure from critics who recalled his infamous 'Bridgegate' scandal.

'You cannot call a $400 billion plan, to force unionization in states, to say that taking care of increasing Medicaid payments in states is infrastructure,' Christie said Sunday on ABC News' This Week.

'This is the care economy. This is care infrastructure. It's baloney,' he added. 'Lying is not popular. It's not infrastructure.'

Host George Stephanopoulos pressed his guest, asking, 'Do you really want to use the word lie there?'

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chris-christie-accuses-biden-of-lying-about-infrastructure-bill/ar-BB1fxDA0?li=BBnbfcQ&ocid=DELLDHP



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Reply Chris Christie accuses Biden of 'lying' about infrastructure bill (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 11 OP
TheRealNorth Apr 11 #1
CurtEastPoint Apr 11 #15
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 11 #19
Walleye Apr 11 #2
AZ8theist Apr 11 #8
Walleye Apr 11 #9
MissMillie Apr 12 #22
AZ8theist Apr 12 #23
Grokenstein Apr 11 #16
Walleye Apr 11 #17
rurallib Apr 11 #3
Ocelot II Apr 11 #4
BumRushDaShow Apr 11 #11
Scrivener7 Apr 11 #5
OAITW r.2.0 Apr 11 #6
NCjack Apr 11 #7
Thunderbeast Apr 11 #10
Mike Nelson Apr 11 #12
abbeyco Apr 11 #13
bringthePaine Apr 11 #14
VarryOn Apr 11 #18
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 12 #24
BradAllison Apr 12 #20
left-of-center2012 Apr 12 #21
DonViejo Apr 12 #25

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:43 PM

1. Does the MSM interview Chris Christie....

Because he's a subject expert on lies and bridges?

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:36 PM

15. No, because of...

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:11 PM

19. Good one

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:44 PM

2. I'm waiting for Chris Christie to stand in front of Joe Biden and call him a liar to his face

Still waiting. He wont do it.

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Response to Walleye (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:14 PM

8. If he stood in front of Biden you wouldn't be able to see Joe.....

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:17 PM

9. 😆

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:32 AM

22. I was going to call out Christie...

for not calling out 45's lies--and he should be called out for that. 45 gave Christie PLENTY of ammunition for that.

Christie has obviously struggled w/ weight issues for years.

DUers typically frown on body-shaming.

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Response to MissMillie (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

23. I'm obese myself. I think I can get away with it..

And I'm STILL in better shape than the traitorous pig in Florida...

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Response to Walleye (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:03 PM

16. The difference between "having the guts"

and "having a gut."

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Response to Grokenstein (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:04 PM

17. 😆😎

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:45 PM

3. So Chris Christie is running for president

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:45 PM

4. Didn't Christie have some problems with infrastructure himself (a bridge)

and being a dishonest dick about it? So fuck that guy.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:24 PM

11. Before "the bridge", one of the first things he did in office was to nix an infrastructure project

I.e., the "ARC" ("Access to Region's Core" ) tunnel (for rail) that was being partially funded by the feds to take some of the traffic load off the existing train transit systems (and subsequent car traffic on the bridges) in and out of the NYC/NJ corridor.

Commuting has gotten worse since Christie killed ARC 10 years ago. Will Gateway move forward?

Colleen Wilson
NorthJersey.com

John Porcari remembers feeling stunned a decade ago when then-Gov. Chris Christie warnedU.S. Department of Transportation officials he would be canceling a plan to build new rail tunnels under the Hudson River. "This was not some planning project or perspective project; it was under construction," said Porcari, who was deputy secretary for the U.S. Department of Transportation from 2009 to 2014. "So to essentially abandon a project under construction and waste a substantial amount of taxpayers' money in the process yes, I was incredulous."

The $8.7 billion ARC plan, known as Access to the Region's Core, would have built two new tunnels to an expanded New York Penn Station and had already received partial federal funding to begin early work and engineering, with a full federal funding agreement expected to be completed in 2010. Federal funds would have paid for about half of the project's costs, with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey throwing in $3 billion and state money from the New Jersey Turnpike Authority helping to cover the rest.

Construction was expected to be completed in 2018. But Christie canceled the project on Oct. 27, 2010, citing potential cost overruns that would have unfairly fallen hardest on New Jersey taxpayers, he said. Just six months before, Christie voiced his support for the project in a letter to then-U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood. A decade later, commuters are paying the price for the dead project with signs of the tunnels' wear and tear cropping up in more frequent outages that trap hundreds of thousands of commuters on trains or in the midtown terminal that is more than three times too small for the number of people traveling in and out of New York City.

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The real issue behind ARC's early demise, according to Porcari, local news reports and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, was the governor's interest in diverting funds for other projects without raising the gas tax or raiding the state Transportation Trust Fund. A scheme concocted between the Christie administration and the Port Authority spent about $2 billion set aside for ARC on state road projects, including the Pulaski Skyway. The misuse of the money was uncovered by The Record in 2014 and resulted in a $400,000 settlement with the SEC because bondholders were not warned about the dubious financing plan. Another $95 million had to be paid back to the U.S. Department of Transportation and $130 million of federal funds had to be used on projects approved by the department.

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/transportation/2020/10/29/10-years-since-arc-demise-eyes-gateway-fate-post-election/3745617001/


And because of the contracts involved and agreement for that federal funding, the state of NJ had to repay some of the fronted funding after they broke the agreement, as noted above and below (although there was a settlement for less than what would have been owed) -

News
Chris Christie Caves, Jersey Will Repay Federal Tunnel Funds
By Garth Johnston
Sept. 30, 2011 5:54 p.m.
Updated: Sept. 30, 2011 6:18 p.m.
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Chris Christie is flip flopping left and right this week. Not only is he seemingly reconsidering his definitive statements against running for President but today he also has capitulated to the US Department of Transportation. Though earlier this year he was adamant that New Jersey would not be paying back the federal government any of the funds it had taken for the Trans-Hudson ARC tunnel he nixed (citing its high cost), today he agreed to pay back $95 million of the $271 million in federal dollars spent by the state on the project (in addition to agreeing to spending some of the funds it received on USDOT-approved projects).

Here's how the USDOT describes the settlement:

The $95 million settlement will permit DOT to recover all of the $51 million in New Starts money provided to New Jersey for the ARC Project, so that those funds can be made available to other communities for public transit projects. This amount also recovers approximately 50 percent of the funds provided to New Jersey under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, and this money will be returned to the United States Treasury. In addition to the cash payment amount, New Jersey will be required under the terms of the settlement agreement to spend more than $128 million in CMAQ program funds on transit-related projects that have been reviewed and approved by DOT.


So in the end it looks like New Jersey is going to get to walk away with about $48 million in federal funds from the project. Of course the really sad part about all of this is that the settlement comes just as commuters are finding out just how much we desperately need a new rail link between our two states. Need we remind you about the stuck trains and signal problems that have been plaguing NJTranist and Amtrak's current tunnel? Could we maybe get that other tunnel now? Or that 7 extension into Jersey?

https://gothamist.com/news/chris-christie-caves-jersey-will-repay-federal-tunnel-funds

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:51 PM

5. Didn't he use to be somebody?

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:52 PM

6. Blah, blah, blah.

Christie, 2024...cuz I sorta agree with Trump and hate Democrats.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:52 PM

7. Christie is wasting his time. If he attempts to get the GQP 2024 nomination,

he has a big Trump problem.

If Trump wants the GQP nomination, Trump will get it and Christi is blocked.

If Trump refuses to accept it, there is no way Trump endorses Christi, and Christi is blocked.

Time for Christi to find gainful employment in the private sector. (Perhaps working the cones ...)

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:23 PM

10. After killing the critical railroad tunnel to Manhattan

the Governor has no credibility.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:25 PM

12. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

... Chris Christie tried the loud-mouthed political pig persona... and he lost to Crooked Trump! Conservative voters picked their pig and he ain't Christie.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:30 PM

13. It's another week that an unhinged Christie

needed a tranquilizer dart blown in his ass to calm down. George needs to get a handle on him because he tries to steamroll every panel. Hes a blowhard on every subject and master of very little.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:35 PM

14. spelled "Chris Christie" but, in most of NJ, pronounced "Shit Shitty"...

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:47 PM

18. Fat men like him don't worry me...

Just as Julius Caesar said. Its the lean ones you need to worry about. CC is far from lean.

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Response to VarryOn (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:51 PM

24. "Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look" is the line you're referring to.

It's from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.

Whether he actually said it or not it refers to an ambitious mindset as opposed to one's physical characteristics.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 02:24 AM

20. Loudmouth bully is back (n/m)

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 06:03 AM

21. Christie is moving to the right for 2024

But the trumpers won't support him.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 02:55 PM

25. Locking...

The Daily Mail is not a reputable mainstream news site for LBN purposes

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