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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,179 posts)
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:10 PM Apr 2021

BREAKING NEWS: Virginia police officer is FIRED after he terrified black soldier in Army uniform dur

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Source: Daily Mail

A Virginia police officer involved in a controversial traffic stop last December where officers drew their guns at a second lieutenant in the U.S. Army, has been fired.

Windsor Police Officer Joe Gutierrez has been 'terminated from his employment' following an internal investigation that showed he failed to follow department policy.

Gutierrez's dismissal was revealed in a press release from the Town of Windsor on Sunday night .

Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9460269/Gov-calls-probe-traffic-stop-Black-Army-officer.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

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BREAKING NEWS: Virginia police officer is FIRED after he terrified black soldier in Army uniform dur (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 OP
Here is the press release LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #1
I'm so Glad to See This. I Couldn't Stop Thinking About this Incident. Indykatie Apr 2021 #4
Same question here. I don't see a Rec option. mahina Apr 2021 #11
It was available by the time I got here. I was #33. soldierant Apr 2021 #15
So the Hispanic cop gets axed, but the lily white one stays?? AZ8theist Apr 2021 #21
They are both Lily White. NT cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #22
So how long have you known the Gutierrez whistler162 Apr 2021 #39
Dude he is white. Being Hispanic oir having a Hispanic surname doesn't change your race. NT cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #40
He was the lead cop in this incident. I'm guessing the other guy will get fired, too, eventually. tblue37 Apr 2021 #23
This probably got him fired rpannier Apr 2021 #36
You sounds about white bermudat Apr 2021 #44
Gutierrez could be white. Elessar Zappa Apr 2021 #47
Good. Blue Owl Apr 2021 #2
EXCELLENT!!! elleng Apr 2021 #3
With no national database to track them, these 'roided-up cops just get a new job with another pd PSPS Apr 2021 #5
Yea. That bothers me. Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #12
this llashram Apr 2021 #14
there is a database in the works NJCher Apr 2021 #26
K n R FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #6
From last December. Took their sweet time. Taraman Apr 2021 #7
True! Delphinus Apr 2021 #8
You Know The Answer To That COL Mustard Apr 2021 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Apr 2021 #42
And just the one? There were 2 officers in this confrontation, yes? n/t thenelm1 Apr 2021 #9
Yea i saw both drew their weapons onetexan Apr 2021 #13
Firing is only a start. He should be prosecuted wnylib Apr 2021 #10
That's great news. That guy should NOT be a police officer. I hope the lawsuit is successful. George II Apr 2021 #16
What about the other piece of shit? Why is that particular pig still employed? nt Progressive Jones Apr 2021 #17
Doesn't appear that the Windsor VA Police Dept has fitness standards. Ziggysmom Apr 2021 #18
It's REFORM the police, NOT DEFUND. AZ8theist Apr 2021 #19
see post 26 NJCher Apr 2021 #27
Good. Now pay the soldier a LOT of money. nt SunSeeker Apr 2021 #20
They did . He got 5 million. vsrazdem Apr 2021 #38
Already? whathehell Apr 2021 #43
translated -- officer 'terminated' stopdiggin Apr 2021 #24
No problem . . . AverageOldGuy Apr 2021 #25
see post 26 NJCher Apr 2021 #28
Or to another state... Captain Zero Apr 2021 #32
Windsor PD only fired him after the video was released to the public. intheflow Apr 2021 #29
By "fired" they mean "fired and charged with crimes", right? NullTuples Apr 2021 #30
He needs the orange jumpsuit to be monochrome Nululu Apr 2021 #31
The State of Virginia is investigating this crime LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #33
Cop said if he made a stink it would not "effect my life one way or another". Jon King Apr 2021 #34
Heh heh, heeh electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #45
So add this to the list of things that can set cops off . . . Aussie105 Apr 2021 #35
Good start Withywindle Apr 2021 #37
Good! Some justice done! electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #46
What pisses me off... MissMillie Apr 2021 #48
Locking... DonViejo Apr 2021 #49

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,179 posts)
1. Here is the press release
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:11 PM
Apr 2021

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
4. I'm so Glad to See This. I Couldn't Stop Thinking About this Incident.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:26 PM
Apr 2021

I don't See a REC box included on this post. Did anyone else have that problem?

mahina

(17,651 posts)
11. Same question here. I don't see a Rec option.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:45 PM
Apr 2021

soldierant

(6,857 posts)
15. It was available by the time I got here. I was #33.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:50 PM
Apr 2021

AZ8theist

(5,459 posts)
21. So the Hispanic cop gets axed, but the lily white one stays??
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:19 PM
Apr 2021

Sounds about right.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
22. They are both Lily White. NT
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:23 PM
Apr 2021
 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
39. So how long have you known the Gutierrez
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 06:04 AM
Apr 2021

Family? Since you obviously know his ancestry!

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
40. Dude he is white. Being Hispanic oir having a Hispanic surname doesn't change your race. NT
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 06:10 AM
Apr 2021

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
23. He was the lead cop in this incident. I'm guessing the other guy will get fired, too, eventually.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:35 PM
Apr 2021

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
36. This probably got him fired
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 02:45 AM
Apr 2021

per MSNews

"I'm honestly afraid to get out," Nazario is heard telling the officers after they've approached the vehicle with weapons drawn and order him to exit the vehicle.

"Yeah," Gutierrez says, "you should be."

found this as well

The officers approach the SUV, and Nazario says, "I'm serving this country, and this is how I'm treated?" Gutierrez responds that he is a veteran and "learned to obey."

Gutierrez is heard telling Nazario he was "fixin' to ride the lightning, son," which the lawsuit describes as a "colloquial expression for an execution," particularly in reference to the electric chair.

bermudat

(1,329 posts)
44. You sounds about white
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 06:31 AM
Apr 2021

Elessar Zappa

(13,981 posts)
47. Gutierrez could be white.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:07 AM
Apr 2021

Remember, Hispanic isn't a racial identification.

Blue Owl

(50,356 posts)
2. Good.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:12 PM
Apr 2021

elleng

(130,895 posts)
3. EXCELLENT!!!
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:24 PM
Apr 2021

PSPS

(13,594 posts)
5. With no national database to track them, these 'roided-up cops just get a new job with another pd
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:29 PM
Apr 2021

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
12. Yea. That bothers me.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:45 PM
Apr 2021

llashram

(6,265 posts)
14. this
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:47 PM
Apr 2021
he'll have another job harassing African-American soldiers sooner rather than later. These cops are racist rabid dogs.

NJCher

(35,663 posts)
26. there is a database in the works
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:13 AM
Apr 2021

You can read about it here:

https://sci.usc.edu/lewis-registry/

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
6. K n R
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:30 PM
Apr 2021

Taraman

(373 posts)
7. From last December. Took their sweet time.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:32 PM
Apr 2021

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
8. True!
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:38 PM
Apr 2021

I wonder if they would have fired him had the video not come out.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
41. You Know The Answer To That
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 06:14 AM
Apr 2021

Of course not. And I hope LT Nazario succeeds with his lawsuit.

Response to COL Mustard (Reply #41)

thenelm1

(854 posts)
9. And just the one? There were 2 officers in this confrontation, yes? n/t
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:39 PM
Apr 2021

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
13. Yea i saw both drew their weapons
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:47 PM
Apr 2021

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
10. Firing is only a start. He should be prosecuted
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:44 PM
Apr 2021

and convicted for his actions. I don't know Virginia law, but there must be something in the legal code that covers abuse of power, harrassment, and assault.

What about the other cop?

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. That's great news. That guy should NOT be a police officer. I hope the lawsuit is successful.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:52 PM
Apr 2021

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
17. What about the other piece of shit? Why is that particular pig still employed? nt
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:11 PM
Apr 2021

Ziggysmom

(3,407 posts)
18. Doesn't appear that the Windsor VA Police Dept has fitness standards.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:12 PM
Apr 2021

Firemen are required to pass regular fitness exams. It should be mandatory for police to demonstrate physical AND mental fitness.

AZ8theist

(5,459 posts)
19. It's REFORM the police, NOT DEFUND.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:16 PM
Apr 2021

A major reform should be a national data base of fired cops, so these psychos don't get hired on elsewhere.

AND.......random drug tests to weed out the roid users. There's no place for either of them on any police force.

NJCher

(35,663 posts)
27. see post 26
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 AM
Apr 2021

above, re database

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
20. Good. Now pay the soldier a LOT of money. nt
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:17 PM
Apr 2021

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
38. They did . He got 5 million.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 04:01 AM
Apr 2021

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
43. Already?
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 06:30 AM
Apr 2021

Do you have a link?

It's excellent news, but it seems to have happened fast.

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
24. translated -- officer 'terminated'
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:43 PM
Apr 2021

after story blows up -- sh*t hits the fan -- and Governor goes on TV to call his behavior 'disgusting.'

but before that (like 12 hours ago) -- the decision was on a razor's edge -- really too close to call.
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AverageOldGuy

(1,524 posts)
25. No problem . . .
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:54 PM
Apr 2021

. . . he'll go 20 miles up the road and be hired for another police or sheriff's department.

NJCher

(35,663 posts)
28. see post 26
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:17 AM
Apr 2021

eom

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
32. Or to another state...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:51 AM
Apr 2021

Sometimes terms of the dismissal is to not work in the state again. They just move to another state.

intheflow

(28,464 posts)
29. Windsor PD only fired him after the video was released to the public.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:22 AM
Apr 2021

That means they knew for four months what these cops did was illegal, it's not like they didn't view the body camera footage before they shared it with Lt. Nazario's lawyers. Also, what's the bullshit about not firing the other guy? Yeah, Gutierrez was lead douchebag but not only did that other cop not intervene, he completely backed up Gutierrez's terrorist actions. He should be fired, too.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
30. By "fired" they mean "fired and charged with crimes", right?
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:32 AM
Apr 2021

Nululu

(840 posts)
31. He needs the orange jumpsuit to be monochrome
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:47 AM
Apr 2021

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,179 posts)
33. The State of Virginia is investigating this crime
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:56 AM
Apr 2021

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
34. Cop said if he made a stink it would not "effect my life one way or another".
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:06 AM
Apr 2021

That arrogant cop tried to get him to let it go. He told him if he made a fuss about it the Army would find out and he would be in trouble. The cop said "it won't make a difference in my life either way". Guess he was wrong about that.

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
45. Heh heh, heeh
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 06:53 AM
Apr 2021

Aussie105

(5,395 posts)
35. So add this to the list of things that can set cops off . . .
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:14 AM
Apr 2021

Being in uniform while black.

Is there no intelligence test or attitude/aptitude test that these thug-cops must pass before they get to strap on a gun and terrorize people?

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
37. Good start
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 03:09 AM
Apr 2021

They also need to fire cops who terrorize civilians.

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
46. Good! Some justice done!
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 06:54 AM
Apr 2021

MissMillie

(38,556 posts)
48. What pisses me off...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:11 AM
Apr 2021

(Other than the fact that this happened at all)

This happened 5 months ago. It's only after the vid goes viral that the officers face repercussions.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
49. Locking...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:50 AM
Apr 2021

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