Trump Floats Pfizer Conspiracy Theory While Blasting Biden For J&J Pause
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Source: Forbes
[div class="excerpt"TOPLINE Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday, seeking to politicize the decision by U.S. agencies to recommend pausing the rollout of the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccine, criticized President Joe Biden and called it a terrible disservice, while floating a conspiracy theorywithout evidencethe distribution was halted to benefit Pfizer and its Covid-19 vaccine.
In a statement released on Telegram hours after the FDA and CDCs announcement, Trump said the decision means the reputation of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine would be permanently challenged, and rested blame on President Joe Biden directly.
Trump suggested the pause may have been recommended by U.S. health agencies for political reasons or the FDAs love for Pfizer, which refers to a different baseless Trump conspiracy.
Continuing to push the wild conspiracy theory, Trump said the FDA has to be controlled especially with long time bureaucrats within.
Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/04/13/trump-floats-pfizer-conspiracy-theory-while-blasting-biden-for-jj-pause/?sh=4bfa73bd4491
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,076 posts)ratchiweenie
(7,755 posts)birdographer
(1,367 posts)If any other idiot spewed this nonsense, it wouldn't show up at all. They'd shake their heads, say it was sad and pathetic, and move on. There is still a lot of worship going on out there.
IcyPeas
(21,927 posts)videohead5
(2,181 posts)Sideways with a cactus
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,076 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)From one of the Psalms:
"...As smoke vanishes, let them vanish,
As wax melts before the fire."
WHITT
(2,868 posts)The CDC and the FDA made the science-based decision, and merely notified the White House last night that an announcement was coming in the morning, but they did not learn of the details until this morning when everybody else did.
JohnSJ
(92,480 posts)Really pathetic
pazzyanne
(6,560 posts)Chaos sells, calm competancy does not. To quote AOC, "Its all about the Benjamins."
JohnSJ
(92,480 posts)an anti-Jewish slur, so I would not use that phrase to reinforce your point in your first part, which was right on.
"Chaos sells, calm competancy does not", make the point very well indeed
pazzyanne
(6,560 posts)My apologies to Jewish people everywhere.
JohnSJ
(92,480 posts)pazzyanne
(6,560 posts)Blues Heron
(5,948 posts)I thought it was about 100 dollar bills having Franklin on them.
JohnSJ
(92,480 posts)when that Congressperson made it, it was clear it was not about Franklin, but associating money with Jews
It wasn't AOC who made that reference either
Polybius
(15,514 posts)I thought Biggie Smalls invented the term.
OLDMDDEM
(1,577 posts)Dumpy is so insignificant now. He hides away in his rat trap in Florida and expects to get away with murder (literally) from January 6. On top of that is the New York mess he is in as well as the f___up he created in Georgia. And, on top of that are the two dozen women going after him for sexual harassment and worse. Also, hopefully, the feds are looking into his misdeeds of the past four years.
He may get away with some of this, but not all of it. I can envision his properties being "attached" by the city and state of New York. I can also see that the banks would be in second or third position on those properties. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all of the time.
ananda
(28,888 posts)And he appears to hate Pfizer.
PatSeg
(47,682 posts)mostly he hates Joe Biden. He has to get his ridiculous 2 cents in everything chance he can.
subterranean
(3,427 posts)He thinks the timing of their announcement of the vaccine results was a political decision because they didn't want to help him win the election. Pfizer said the election had nothing to do with it. I believe Pfizer.
aggiesal
(8,940 posts)They did the vaccine on their own dime and got it done faster than the companies (Moderna, J&J) that took Warp Speed money.
That's why I say that Pendejo45 had nothing to do with how fast the vaccine got developed.
agingdem
(7,869 posts)days after the election...Trump was certain Pfizer withheld the data until Joe could accrue enough electoral votes to win the presidency...and if that's the case then G-d bless Pfizer...
jcgoldie
(11,656 posts)He can't even comprehend that a decision like this could be based on science because everything is personal and corrupt. It certainly would be if he was still president.
apnu
(8,759 posts)Seriously, stop going to that fucking guy about anything. He's a cranky old man, retired in Florida, tooling around on a golf cart and bitching about everything. He's not even newsworthy.
We cannot ignore the man entirely, as he still has a large and dangerous following, but no journalist should go out of their way to get his twisted viewpoint about anything. There are so many other important stories to cover.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)And then worse.....they were successful, and the companies in Warp Speed failed.
Cancelling a predictable press conference where Pfizer execs praise Trump's leadership and how they needed his Warp Speed funding to get er done.
He's such an easy book to read
GopherGal
(2,010 posts)I can easily see TFG being in a snit because Pfizer execs wouldn't come take part in one of his "dear leader" slaver-a-thons. And resenting their subsequent success. He would have tagged them as the competition.
I don't agree that "the companies in Warp Speed failed" -- Moderna was one of the companies funded through the project and they didn't fail. But that's doesn't affect TFG's toxic mentality.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)PortTack
(32,813 posts)snowybirdie
(5,244 posts)A separate forum for posting the idiotic rantings of the former guy on DU? Then those who care can access them while the rest of us can just ignore.
Warpy
(111,397 posts)Sucks to be him.
I did.
h2ebits
(649 posts)Forbes has certainly taken a step down in my opinion as a legitimate news source. The vaccine was politicized by Trump and cronies and we are suffering because of him and his wild conspiracy theories. His statement is not news and should not be given legitimacy by any real "news" organization.
Chakaconcarne
(2,474 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,788 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,694 posts)That's how Republicans operate.
SeattleVet
(5,481 posts)Why does anyone care what the former guy has to say?
Watching the degradation of his mental state in real-time is not really entertainment.
DallasNE
(7,404 posts)We only have one President at a time so it is time for Trump to shut up. But we all know that he is incapable of that.
Some of that is opinion so it can't be fact checked. But the claim of bias toward Pfizer is irresponsible at best. Both Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson need to speak out on this issue and set the record straight.
GopherGal
(2,010 posts)Yes, I know, ironic from someone reading this thread...
I don't think it's in the interest of either company to publicly entertain the idea that the FDA has a bias in their or their competitors' favor.
JohnSJ
(92,480 posts)most in the hands of FORMER JACKASSES FDA, not Pfizer or Moderna
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-donald-trump-business-elections-bba3859d8465c309311bb911af33780f
No doubt, and rightfully so, Pfizer does not want to give anymore attention to trump for his baseless accusations
bucolic_frolic
(43,405 posts)A seething brain of self-flagellation doesn't know enough to STFU
CaptainTruth
(6,611 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)JI7
(89,281 posts)birdographer
(1,367 posts)The massive amount of crap that that would put an end to is staggering. Like when you pull the bottom card out of a skyscraper house of cards.
IronLionZion
(45,584 posts)he'd probably be dead already
lastlib
(23,344 posts)Oh, yeah--FUCK the former guy! NOBODY gives a shit about him.
DallasNE
(7,404 posts)Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Warning About the J&J Vaccine
The FDA and the CDC recommended a pause in distribution of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine today after discovering six cases of serious adverse events tied to blood clotting. One woman died; another is in critical condition; nearly 7 million have gotten the J&J vaccine with no blood clotting. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the chief medical advisor to the President and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, spoke about the safety of the vaccines this afternoon at a White House press conference. "What does a pause mean?" he asked. "It really allows both the FDA and the CDC to further investigate these cases, to try and understand some of the mechanisms of what it is
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)Science is ever evolving, and if something can be learned from this pause that saves a life or serious side effects down the line, it is appropriate and prudent.
I am amazed at the responses that Ive seen today saying (paraphrasing) its just six women out of millions. If you (meaning anyone, not the DUer to which Im replying) were one of the six affected, I believe your attitude might be different.
Let the medical authorities investigate, learn and decide how best to proceed. All hopefully as quickly as reasonably possible.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Which shows the ignorance of those who make it political.
StarryNite
(9,464 posts)liberalgunwilltravel
(338 posts)Making slanderous claims and defaming companies without evidence should not be allowed to stand. Sue his fat ass just like Fox is getting sued. This shouldn't be a free speech issue either.
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)Do people really need further understanding that EVERYTHING is transactional when it comes to this asshole?
theworldatlarge
(11 posts)The only title concerning the MFing lunatic I want to see is that he has dropped dead or he's in jail
11 Bravo
(23,928 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,206 posts)STOP REPORTING what this poisonous, fat sack of shit says.
He is a petty criminal, traitor, and an enemy of the constitution that allows you to operate free of government interference.
It is in YOUR best interest to ignore that orange motherfucker for the rest of his miserable life.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)and the company was able to develop it without Trump's help.
bucolic_frolic
(43,405 posts)They're all out to get me! Let's whine and dine some more!
iluvtennis
(19,885 posts)BHDem53
(1,061 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,821 posts)Everybody this asshat slanders should sue him and the outlets giving him air time immediately.
That is the only way we can stop this steady flow of damaging lies.
Initech
(100,114 posts)Now that he's no longer president, I don't give a shit what he has to say.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)hadEnuf
(2,221 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Wasn't four years of his insanity enough?
turbinetree
(24,735 posts)and he knew and then what is really galling he got his shots in secret and didn't have the balls to do it in public ................
aggiesal
(8,940 posts)I don't care what Pendejo45 says, do you?
bluestarone
(17,093 posts)The SON OF A BITCH is being indicted or going to prison! (of course we can also discuss HIS FUCKING DEATH)
JudyM
(29,294 posts)The consensus of forum hosts is that the ranting and raving of the disgraced former President are no longer important news of national interest and so should be posted in GD instead of in the LBN forum.
When he was in the White House we had to post most of his drivel in LBN, but no longer, unless it is genuinely very important news.