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Here we go again...

[AllyCat]

1. This country is sick.

We continue to tolerate this.

[SoCalDavidS]

11. And Pathetic

This Country Is A Joke.

[wnylib]

13. Except none of it is laughable.

Humorless joke.

[spooky3]

2. A report on heavy.com says at least 8 have been shot. Nt

[dalton99a]

3. "I saw a man with a submachine gun of some sort, an automatic rifle, and he was firing in the open"

https://www.wishtv.com/news/crime-watch-8/watch-live-impd-response-to-multiple-people-shot-in-commercial-area-on-southwest-side/

[Initech]

4. It's the fucking guns.

[applegrove]

8. Yep.

[czarjak]

5. We're screwed!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

6. MSNBC has it

Setting up at a hotel for victim families. That doesn’t sound good.

[SoCalDavidS]

7. Here We Go Again???

WE NEVER STOPPED GOING.

America!

[BeyondGeography]

9. Suspect has reportedly killed himself

Link to tweet

Other reports say 4 dead, 7 wounded. But, you know, Twitter...

[ZonkerHarris]

24. I always say if you're thinking about doing a murder/suicide thing, do the suicide first.

Should be a PSA on TV.

[bucolic_frolic]

30. That just might work

These people are so deranged they could believe anything. Even if it only worked in one or 2 instances it would save lives.

And it just might reach these people to have their tightly-held internal motives openly exposed.

I do think you're onto something. Float it elsewhere, reach some consulting psychologists and public service PR professionals.

[DENVERPOPS]

12. Trump

has taken us back to the wild wild west or the time of the barbarians.........

Everyone seen the latest police shooting? Video of cops shooting a thirteen year old kid, hands raised over his head, no weapon, shot to death by some Chicago cop. They have it all on video which will be released tomorrow.........

This is insanity.................

Here in Colorado, we have a horrific police brutality on a 73 YO woman, 5' tall, 80 pounds. Oh, and it is clear she has dementia... The complete incident is on a high quality video. The small town of Loveland is going to go bankrupt finding the settlement money on this one. It takes a really strong stomach to watch the video of this one.......seriously............And the three cops, including one female cop, and the Chief of PD covered it up for months until someone leaked the officer's videos to a Loveland lawyer.........It is true sadism....

Aurora Colorado City Council is facing a huge payout, (as if they don't have enough payouts already) for a vicious, horrifically violent attack on a woman who was laying on the ground, not even moving, after they drug her out of her car......she is completely limp, stoned out of her mind and the police are using her as a pinyata with their night sticks. Then the canine cop tells his dog to attack her. The Dog grabs mouth size bites of her thighs and shakes his head violently. Over and over again. And all the cops cheer on the dog and it's handler to keep repeating it over and over. The woman lays there motionless crying: please stop, please stop. This one also takes a really strong stomach to watch the video. This one is also pure sadism.

[wnylib]

14. It was happening long before Trump.

Remember all the condolences that Obama was always expressing? I used to call hom the condoler in chief. And Columbine happened under Clinton. There were mass shoitings under Bush II.

We have a sickness of spirit, and I don't mean religion. There is an emptiness in us, a lack of wholeness.

[stopdiggin]

23. the pace is picking up

That's what is so disturbing. Other than that I agree with your points. We use to be shocked and appalled -- now we are becoming numbed.

[Bengus81]

41. Yeah..mass murderers don't care who's Pres but Dems TRY and do something about it....

Bush.IDIOT and his Republicans thugs let the Clinton assault rifle ban expire.

[leighbythesea2]

15. Just read

The company is now rethinking their policy of making employees surrender their phones or lock them, on shift.
How many places are doing this?
Seems like if the US is going to be violent and unstoppable, being able to communicate is critical. This makes me so ill.

[wnylib]

18. I used to work in an office where we

could keep phones with us, but had to keep them hidden in a pocket, purse, or locker due to sensitive personal and financial information that we dealt with. Company did not want us to be able to copy or transmit info. All printing was done at a centralized computer to be distributed by a supervisor. Phones had to be turned off. If a phone rang because somebody forgot to turn it off, they got a formal warning. Repeat and they were fired.

[RobinA]

42. I Have To Laugh

at these corporate attempts to control employees and their handheld technology. I work in a place that won't let phones into the building because... I'm not sure why. We do handle health information. People do spend time on their phones when they should be working. But that can and should be handled in other, more effective ways. The handheld technology ship has sailed, those horses are out the barn door and into the next state by now. I'm old enough to remember when we got Internet on our desks (a different job) there were dire warnings about using it to check home e-mail. Needless to say, that was a laughable rule and probably lasted one day at the most. In may case 99% of the time it's an attempt to exert control. It probably makes sense if the place deals in top secret information, but otherwise, no. Did I mention that every person where I work who has a cell phone has it at work? Never going to work without draconian search measures of every employee who enters the building every time they enter. And for that they would need to hire [gasp] more staff. And pay them. It's not THAT important to make sure employees don't have cell phones.

[SoCalDavidS]

16. EIGHT DEAD At Scene - Several Transported To Hospital

Just reported at news conference.

[Aussie105]

17. If you are going to . . .

Allow civilians to own military style weapons, you are going to get this.

If you have police entrance exams with a checkbox labelled 'Are you a sadist?', and a tick in the box qualifies you to join, then you are going to get this.

Simple logic.

Solution though, is not so simple.
A lot of people need to work together to solve these problems. And it's not happening.

[SergeStorms]

21. I was told...

right here on DU no less, that those aren't military style weapons. Those are hunting rifles. I shit you not. I'm not going to call out the names of these DUers, but they're still posting on DU.

[stopdiggin]

25. clearly modeled after after military styling

somebody might have been arguing the distinction between full auto and semi-automatic. That gets trotted out a lot. But, I mean -- look at the styling!!
(and I have no idea what weaponry this crazy was using)

[ShazzieB]

26. I think I saw some of the posts you're talking about.

I couldn't believe some of what I was reading.

[Dial H For Hero]

36. As someone who collects such guns actively, I will freely grant that many weapons such as the AR-15

are styled after military weapon. Heck, my M1 Garand rifle, Mauser 98K rifle, Mossberg 590 shotgun, and Colt 1911 pistol are military issue weapons as such. Being military issue or styled on a military weapon s no reason in and of itself to restrict a weapon. If that was the standard, we'd ban singlle shot Springfield rifless and Brown Bess muzzleloaders.

The point at whiich we (for practical purpopses) ban military firearms s when they're machine guns. If it just looks like a machine gun but fires semiautomatically only, it's not more restricted (some states aside) than your great-great-great grandfather's lever action deer rifle. That's why this:



Is perfectly legal in most of the US, despite feeding from a 200 round belt and loooking virtually identical to the US Army's light machine gun. It 's a semioautomatic. It's also has an MSRP of $8499.

[Dial H For Hero]

38. Actually, the AR-15 has become one of the most popular hunting rifles in America.

And no, it doesn't destroy the meat any more than any other rifle. It's actually quite underpowered for hunting big game such as deer or elk in its most common chambering (5.56x45). It's typically chambered for larger, more powerful cartridges when used for hunting animals such as deer. Incidentally, modifying it to shoot such a larger cartridge takes all of 30 seconds (and a new upper receiver, which costs hundreds). It's an extraordinary versatile platform, which explains its popularity for hunting.

[Kaleva]

45. Technically, all firearm's are "military style".

Firearms' were developed for war. What you may consider "hunting" rifles came from the weapons of war that killed millions in WWI and WWII.

[Dial H For Hero]

48. Absolutely so. The classic Winchester Model 70 bolt action rifle is a German 98 army rifle under

the skin.

[GoneOffShore]

19. This is yet another example of why something has to be done to curb the sales of guns and ammo

In the US.

The US is on the point of turning into Afghanistan.

[Dial H For Hero]

35. What, exacstly? Do you have a proposal that will pass constitutional muster and also has the

slightest chance of getting through the Senate?

[Mysterian]

40. Ban semi-autos and handguns

You can hunt, protect your home, and defeat tyranny with a bolt action and a shotgun.

[Dial H For Hero]

43. Never fly. t hey're in common use as per Heller, and as a simple political reality the US is never

going to ban 75% of all firearms.

[GoneOffShore]

44. Would that I had a solution, apart from the Australian one.

The problem is the 2nd Amendment and the unwillingness of Americans to recognize that 'the right to bear arms' is causing the wave of violence in the US.

That violence and the increasing idiocracy of American society is going to keep me from ever returning to the US. And I'm fine with that.

[Dial H For Hero]

47. The Australian model will never come to pass here in the US.

As you point out, we have the 2nd Amendment, which doesn't have the slightest chance of being repealed.


That violence and the increasing idiocracy of American society is going to keep me from ever returning to the US. And I'm fine with that.

Depending upon one's demographic, America can be quite peaceful, on par with Western Europe. Such is the case for me (white maile, late 50's, living in a suburb). I feel every bit as safe waling the streets of Lakewood, Colorado as I do when in London. A bit safer, if anything (and the statistics back me up on this).

This is very much not the case for some other demographic groups 9such as African-American males in their teens/twenties.

[GoneOffShore]

50. I lived in Philadelphia for 38 years. Just north of the Liberty Bell but not North Philly.

There were shootings all the time in Philadelphia and the surrounding suburbs.

Glad you can walk around Lakewood CO without fear. I would rather walk around Marseille. I might get robbed, but not at gunpoint.

It's time to start talking, on a grass roots level, about repealing the 2nd Amendment.

[hack89]

49. The 2A is not an obstacle to strict gun control

AWBs, registration, limits on public carry and magazine size, storage requirements are all perfectly constitutional. The issue is purely cultural and political.

[GoneOffShore]

53. Correct. It's a lack of will.

Deleted my edit as I didn't want to get a hide.

[BigmanPigman]

20. How many have we had in the past week?

I'm losing count. That is a pretty sad thing to have to acknowledge.

[Canoe52]

22. Are we ever going to just get rid of these stupid fucking guns?

So tired of this, just no rational reason for it.

[Dial H For Hero]

34. Please tell us how exactly you propose to disarm the American people.

I'm not asking for a 50 page paper spelling out your proposal, but just a few details.

[BumRushDaShow]

27. 8 killed and others injured (including some unidentified who self-transported to hospitals)

8 people killed after mass shooting at FedEx facility in Indianapolis, police say

By Alta Spells and Madeline Holcombe, CNN

Updated 4:24 AM ET, Fri April 16, 2021


(CNN) Eight people were killed in a mass shooting at an Indianapolis FedEx facility on Thursday night, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department spokeswoman Genae Cook said. Authorities were aware of multiple other injured victims in hospitals, one of whom was in critical condition, she said during a media briefing early Friday. Police believe the shooter took his own life and there is "no active threat to the community at this time," Cook said.

It is unclear what motivated the shooting, but investigations are ongoing and will continue into most of the day Friday, she said. Police arrived at around 11:00 p.m. local time to an active-shooter situation and entered the facility without hesitation, Cook said. "The officers responded, they came in, they went in and they did their job," Cook said. A lot of them are trying to face this because this is a sight no one should ever have to see." 'I thought I was going to get shot'.

Two employees inside the building at the time told CNN affiliate WISH-TV that they heard as many as ten gunshots. At first Jeremiah Miller and Timothy Boillat thought the sound was from a car, but after hearing more, Miller stood up and saw a man with a weapon, he said. "After hearing the shootings I did see a body on the floor behind a vehicle," said Boillat. The two men left the building and watched as about 30 police cars responded, Boillat said.

"Thank God for being here because I thought I was going to get shot," Miller told the station. Police are asking anyone who was at the scene and may have left for safety or for medical treatment to contact 262-TIPS or the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police homicide officer to provide information on the shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/16/us/indianapolis-shooting-fedex-facility/index.html

I also heard on the radio this morning that Fedex had indicated they originally prohibited cell phones by employees on the floor (am guessing sorting facility?) but is now re-thinking that policy given what just happened.

[Botany]

28. It is the guns

End of story

[boycott_gun_sellers]

29. We're part of the problem

When we buy things at retailers that sell guns...it helps keep guns in the mainstream of society.

[Dial H For Hero]

33. So you think we should boycott every sportings good store that sells guns?

If even you could get a significant portion of the publlic to do so (which you can't), you'll simply put Dick's Sporting Goods out of business, while eveyrone who wants a guin simply buys them at their neighborhood gun store/

[bucolic_frolic]

31. Red States Rising

Will TX be suing Indiana today for lack of open carry? Asking because it's one thing to own the libs, but if your ideas are any good they also must be promoted, accepted, or forced upon others.

Oh. Your ideas are no good. Or they're good ideas but lots of people are murdered in cold blood because of them.

Hmm. Maybe time for a re-think. If think is something you do.

[Ziggysmom]

32. They will send their "Prayers" but do nothing to prevent it from happening again

[dalton99a]

37. +1. A U.S. House Natural Resources Committee meeting can't be complete without guns

[apnu]

39. This will keep happening while we are awash with guns.

Its that simple people.

No amount of extra mental health care will fix it (but we should have that anyway).
No amount of regulation and checks will fix it (but we should have that anyway).
No amount of training, policy, and procedure will fix it (but we should have that anyway).

The NRA, gun makers, and the GOP allied with them are literally killing us.

[Maxheader]

46. Fuck the constitution...

Throw out the 2nd. The fed and state pass their own laws with

the citizens vote. And I think the libs have the majority....

[Dial H For Hero]

51. There's a well defined procedure for repealing a constitutional amendment.

Just get 2/3rds of both the House and Senate to agree to do so, than get 3/4ths of state legislatures to agree as well.

Simple enough, yes?

[DonViejo]

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