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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:33 AM Apr 2021

'No sympathy' for Chauvin, say those who had run-ins before Floyd

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Reuters via MSN

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According to Chauvin's police report, Hernandez failed to follow orders and resisted arrest when Chauvin, who was working as an off-duty security guard, tried to escort him out of a night club. Chauvin's report said this prompted him to apply "pressure toward his Lingual Artery" to subdue Hernandez.

Hernandez said Chauvin picked him out of the crowd for no reason and quickly escalated to violence. He said Chauvin should have been removed from the police force.

As Monroe Skinaway, 75, took in news of Chauvin's conviction, he flashed back to the night he witnessed Chauvin pin another man to the pavement with the same detached look as when he knelt on Floyd's neck.

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But Skinaway still remembers what he deemed the indifference on Chauvin's face that night as he pressed Sir Rilee Peet's head into a puddle deep enough that he, like Floyd, struggled to breathe.

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Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/no-sympathy-for-chauvin-say-those-who-had-run-ins-before-floyd/ar-BB1fSZji

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'No sympathy' for Chauvin, say those who had run-ins before Floyd (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2021 OP
Bastard has his own special M.O. secondwind Apr 2021 #1
No he won't. thucythucy Apr 2021 #2
+1 nt jrthin Apr 2021 #4
He was convicted of State crimes, not federal. He can't pardon those AZLD4Candidate Apr 2021 #7
Ah, good to know. thucythucy Apr 2021 #9
Who thinks DownriverDem Apr 2021 #19
He basically is just a sadistic monster PatSeg Apr 2021 #3
Yep. Probably became a police officer just to indulge his psychopathy Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #12
Maybe he was a tolerated delinquent. alfredo Apr 2021 #17
They seriously need to demand psych evals 2Gingersnaps Apr 2021 #22
MOST COPS DO gopiscrap Apr 2021 #25
It sounds like a pattern of behavior meant to cause fear, pain, and suffering. patphil Apr 2021 #5
No, I Don't Have Sympathy GB_RN Apr 2021 #6
Yeah, I Agree With You COL Mustard Apr 2021 #13
And By The Way COL Mustard Apr 2021 #14
TY, Sir! GB_RN Apr 2021 #16
Thank you! 2Gingersnaps Apr 2021 #20
Tucker Carlson, like other Republican/Nazis, will never except a 'white' cop being punished for johnthewoodworker Apr 2021 #8
Kind of like Ted Nugent getting Covid at a super spreader event? 2Gingersnaps Apr 2021 #21
A past thread about Chauvin's sadistic history... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #10
This sickening he should have been gopiscrap Apr 2021 #26
I didn't watch much of the trial itself, but unless I missed it I was surprised.... George II Apr 2021 #11
I'm also surprised we didn't hear more about them knowing each other. KS Toronado Apr 2021 #18
We all went to grade school with guys like him... Jon King Apr 2021 #15
The worst bully in our school became a cop, just like his dad. alfredo Apr 2021 #23
Chauvin name is Cursed. No pity. Even Roc2020 Apr 2021 #24
Some police are evil to the core. Not much to this story, but... C Moon Apr 2021 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Apr 2021 #28
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Apr 2021 #29

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. Bastard has his own special M.O.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:41 AM
Apr 2021

He will regret what he has done every single day (and night) ... for the rest of his miserable life.

thucythucy

(8,050 posts)
2. No he won't.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:14 AM
Apr 2021

More than likely he'll regret being caught, and will blame the judge, the jury, the cops who testified against him, and people of color in general. The anger will fester inside him and it's quite likely he'll lash out at somebody while in prison.

Also, sad to say, he may well get support and sympathy from prison guards, other cops with the same bigoted views, and a large percentage of the MAGAts.

Thankfully Benedict Donald isn't in office to grant him a pardon.

But I doubt Chauvin feels any culpability for anything he's ever done.

Just my opinion, anyway.

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
4. +1 nt
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 AM
Apr 2021

AZLD4Candidate

(5,689 posts)
7. He was convicted of State crimes, not federal. He can't pardon those
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:42 AM
Apr 2021

Be thankful MN has a Democratic governor, because a Republican governor would commute the sentence.

thucythucy

(8,050 posts)
9. Ah, good to know.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:53 AM
Apr 2021

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
19. Who thinks
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:57 AM
Apr 2021

he won't last long in jail? My husband thinks he'll be dead in 8 months.

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
3. He basically is just a sadistic monster
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:50 AM
Apr 2021

These sound like descriptions of a psychopath.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
12. Yep. Probably became a police officer just to indulge his psychopathy
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:12 AM
Apr 2021

with no consequences--and even a paycheck.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
17. Maybe he was a tolerated delinquent.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:36 AM
Apr 2021

I wonder if he was a schoolyard bully.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
22. They seriously need to demand psych evals
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 12:26 PM
Apr 2021

as a condition of employment. The job is a public trust and taxpayers are paying the settlements.

gopiscrap

(23,760 posts)
25. MOST COPS DO
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 12:53 PM
Apr 2021

patphil

(6,173 posts)
5. It sounds like a pattern of behavior meant to cause fear, pain, and suffering.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 AM
Apr 2021

Brutal, sadistic, remorseless....words that describe Derek Chauvin.

GB_RN

(2,352 posts)
6. No, I Don't Have Sympathy
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:27 AM
Apr 2021

For him. But I do feel bad all around. And before I get attacked, hear me out: The entire SYSTEM failed. It failed both George Floyd and Derek Chauvin. If the system had worked, it would have intervened long ago and kept Mr. Chauvin from ever getting to the point of having knelt on George Floyd’s neck. Maybe he could have been trained differently. Maybe he’d have long since been fired, I don’t know. But either way, the system failed and the system is broken.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
13. Yeah, I Agree With You
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:19 AM
Apr 2021

I certainly don't want someone going to prison, but if his department had acted on these earlier issues, he'd have been removed from the force much earlier, and George Floyd would still be alive. This has been a tragic situation for everyone involved. I hope we don't have any more like it...but I know we will.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
14. And By The Way
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:22 AM
Apr 2021

Welcome to DU!!!

GB_RN

(2,352 posts)
16. TY, Sir!
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:29 AM
Apr 2021

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
20. Thank you!
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 12:15 PM
Apr 2021

That has been my problem with this. He had a record of excessive force. If he had faced accountability long before now, would it have escalated to homicide? Is professionalism and accountability so much to ask? The very nature of law enforcement is difficult, but it is still a public trust. The Constitution promises "equal protection under the law." So one guy dies of passing a $20 he might not even have known was counterfeit, and another guy commits treason (absolutely Russia) and incitement to insurrection and sedition and is still walking free. How is that "equal protection under the law?"

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
8. Tucker Carlson, like other Republican/Nazis, will never except a 'white' cop being punished for
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:51 AM
Apr 2021

killing a POC. I think the planet will improve when bad people leave.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
21. Kind of like Ted Nugent getting Covid at a super spreader event?
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 12:23 PM
Apr 2021

Alfie Oakes runs a farm to table "Whole Foods" wanna be in Naples Florida. He is one toxic "Covid hoax" trumpanzee asshat. Still holds trump rallies, never allowed his employees to wear masks, treats his migrant workers horrifically (my sister lives beside one of his farms) never enforced mitigation efforts-those being what they were under Deathsantis, and Ted caught Covid at one of Alfies "events." Alfie sent three busloads to the Jan 6 insurrection. So if they are all about thinning their own herd, I have no sympathy. Natural selection in progress.

gopiscrap

(23,760 posts)
26. This sickening he should have been
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 12:56 PM
Apr 2021

cashiered out of the PD long ago also we need a national data base to make sure these rogue cops don't get on another police force some where

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. I didn't watch much of the trial itself, but unless I missed it I was surprised....
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:11 AM
Apr 2021

....that it never came up that Chauvin and Floyd were "security" at the same night club and I heard they had a run-in before. At least they casually knew each other.

KS Toronado

(17,231 posts)
18. I'm also surprised we didn't hear more about them knowing each other.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:36 AM
Apr 2021

People who know each other usually talk in understanding/respectful terms, not get into a cat fight.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
15. We all went to grade school with guys like him...
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:28 AM
Apr 2021

Everyone knows guys like this. They were the ones who picked out the weakest kids and the kids with no ability to defend themselves for abuse....teasing, taunting, even physical abuse. They did it at 7 years old and they did it at 17 years old. They are cruel just because.

This guy was the worst nightmare, the school bully with a badge and police powers.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
23. The worst bully in our school became a cop, just like his dad.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 12:42 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Wed Apr 21, 2021, 01:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Him and his dad used to work in tandem. He would challenge someone to a drag race, and his dad down the road would pull the poor sap over.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
24. Chauvin name is Cursed. No pity. Even
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 12:47 PM
Apr 2021

if he gets out of prison one day only the dregs of society will welcome him.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
27. Some police are evil to the core. Not much to this story, but...
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 01:18 PM
Apr 2021

I went into a 711 a few years back. One police went to use the employee restroom, and the other was standing at the counter. I walked in the store, and smiled and said hello to the police at the counter. He just looked me in the eye and glared at me with a frown.

He was one scary dude with a uniform on. I'm fairly certain that guy has arrested innocent people.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Omaha Steve

(99,624 posts)
29. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 01:57 PM
Apr 2021

This is a feature piece/analysis about Chauvin's past, as opposed to important breaking news.

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