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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,329 posts)
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:17 PM Apr 2021

DOJ weighs charging Chauvin for 2017 incident involving Black teen

Source: ABC News

Late last year, as a team of Minnesota state prosecutors was preparing for the trial that would ultimately convict former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin of murdering George Floyd, they received a series of videos depicting Chauvin's handling of another case three years earlier that by their own description shocked them.

The videos, from Sept. 4, 2017, allegedly showed Chauvin striking a Black teenager in the head so hard that the boy needed stitches, then allegedly holding the boy down with his knee for nearly 17 minutes, and allegedly ignoring complaints from the boy that he couldn't breathe.

"Those videos show a far more violent and forceful treatment of this child than Chauvin describes in his report" of the incident, one of the state prosecutors, Matthew Frank, wrote in a court filing at the time.

Now, the U.S. Justice Department may do something that state prosecutors never did: charge Chauvin for the 2017 incident.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/doj-weighs-charging-chauvin-for-2017-incident-involving-black-teen-source/ar-BB1fYGCE?li=BBnb7Kz

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DOJ weighs charging Chauvin for 2017 incident involving Black teen (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 OP
DO IT! SheltieLover Apr 2021 #1
Sunlight is so cathartic... stillcool Apr 2021 #2
Part of me wishes that they would spend the time and money investigating the many Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #3
Agreed but let's not forget that there were probably other officers present at the 2017 incident Sanity Claws Apr 2021 #5
Yes, I think this is a good thing PatSeg Apr 2021 #6
Pile it on pandr32 Apr 2021 #4
It's depressing to think about how many racial incidents that asshole True Dough Apr 2021 #7
A prosecution of this incident would get a lot more blowback than did the George Floyd case. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #8
But what about the teen that deserves justice? mysteryowl Apr 2021 #15
The feds are trying to have Chauvin to Roc2020 Apr 2021 #9
What a bastard he is. He deserves everything that's coming to him. n/t. NNadir Apr 2021 #10
18 complaints in 19 years iluvtennis Apr 2021 #11
No Weigh Mad Kirrua Apr 2021 #12
Chauvin's Horrific Past Record! mysteryowl Apr 2021 #13
If MF45 and one of his ilk get elected president in 2024 or 2028 I can see him easily pardon kimbutgar Apr 2021 #14
It appears the knee on the neck for an extended period was his MO... C Moon Apr 2021 #16
Wow, this guy is a colossal scumbag. Initech Apr 2021 #17
Charge him in Federal Courts for multigraincracker Apr 2021 #18
18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law multigraincracker Apr 2021 #19

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
1. DO IT!
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:19 PM
Apr 2021

Charge him for EVERY SINGLE ABUSE OF POWER he perpetrated against people of color & women, if the latter is applicable.

Maraya1969

(22,508 posts)
3. Part of me wishes that they would spend the time and money investigating the many
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:26 PM
Apr 2021

others that behave like Chauvin. I would love to see them find others who have done these things and bring up charges now. Don't let Chauvin be the exception and not the rule.

That being said I am glad they are finding these things out and making him responsible.

Sanity Claws

(21,862 posts)
5. Agreed but let's not forget that there were probably other officers present at the 2017 incident
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:33 PM
Apr 2021

They stood by and allowed this to happen. They could lead to more officers being prosecuted.

PatSeg

(47,675 posts)
6. Yes, I think this is a good thing
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:58 PM
Apr 2021

Being Chauvin's past violent incidents were not presented at trial, some people might thing that George Floyd was just an isolated incidence. We can focus on Chauvin's criminal career and still hold other police accountable. Meanwhile, that poor teenager deserves some recognition and resolution for the pain and horror he experienced at the hands of that sadistic monster. Every victim of police brutality deserves no less.

pandr32

(11,635 posts)
4. Pile it on
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:30 PM
Apr 2021

...and while we're at it let's go after others we have convincing evidence against. Let's send law enforcement the message that brutality and hate will not be tolerated.

True Dough

(17,342 posts)
7. It's depressing to think about how many racial incidents that asshole
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:44 PM
Apr 2021

would have been involved in during his policing career (and likely outside of his policing duties as well). They can throw away the key in his case.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
8. A prosecution of this incident would get a lot more blowback than did the George Floyd case.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:01 PM
Apr 2021

That is not a compelling reason to hold back, obviously, but it's a factor. A case could be made for making better use of the prosecutorial resources and court time for dealing with other offenders. Especially if concurrent sentencing is likely for Chauvin.

I have no idea if that is a likely outcome or not - just putting it out there.

mysteryowl

(7,398 posts)
15. But what about the teen that deserves justice?
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:39 PM
Apr 2021

The teen, now adult, and family need justice and accountability for what happened.

mysteryowl

(7,398 posts)
13. Chauvin's Horrific Past Record!
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:31 PM
Apr 2021
Chauvin's Horrific Past Record!

• Military police officer with the U.S. Army from September 1996 to February 1997 and again from September 1999 to May 2000.
• Member of the MPD from 2001 to 2020.
• The records included little detail about the 18 times Chauvin was the subject of internal affairs investigations by the Minneapolis department.
• Had been disciplined for only one incident during his tenure, until he murdered George. It occurred in August 2007 in Longfellow, a neighborhood just south of downtown Minneapolis. Chauvin was accused of pulling a woman out of her car after stopping her for going 10 mph over the speed limit. The woman filed the complaint the next day. He received a letter of reprimand for the incident, the details of which were redacted.
• Reports indicate Chauvin was previously involved in multiple shootings.
• In 2006, he shot and killed a suspect who allegedly had a gun.
• In 2008, he shot a domestic assault suspect, he lived.
• In 2011, he fired at a man seen running from another shooting.
• In 2010 locals report he tied a man up and beat him.
• Chauvin has killed two people while working for the MPD.

• He had worked off-duty in a night club as security. The owner has been critical of Chauvin since his arrest, describing Chauvin's tactics as "overkill" and saying "Chauvin was unnecessarily aggressive on nights when the club had a black clientele, quelling fights by dousing the crowd with pepper spray and calling in several police squad cars as backup".

• He and his then-wife were separately charged with multiple felony counts of tax evasion. Prosecutors state the couple under-reported their joint income by $464,433, including more than $95,000 from Chauvin's off-duty security work.
• Chauvin's ex-wife, a real estate agent and photographer, is a Hmong refugee from Laos who won in a "Mrs. Minnesota" beauty pageant in 2018. She filed for divorce the day before he was arrested for Floyd's death, and the divorce was approved in February 2021.

https://democraticunderground.com/100215365798


kimbutgar

(21,229 posts)
14. If MF45 and one of his ilk get elected president in 2024 or 2028 I can see him easily pardon
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:34 PM
Apr 2021

Chavin if they do Federal charges. Since the right has made Chauvin a martyr the Feds need to not go after him Federally. But the best disinfectant is sunlight. Expose him for the true evil criminal he is.

And sadly the repercussions are repukkkiclans making it illegal to record a officer in state legislatures like Oklahoma.

C Moon

(12,224 posts)
16. It appears the knee on the neck for an extended period was his MO...
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 04:54 PM
Apr 2021

and no one ever said anything to his superiors?

multigraincracker

(32,737 posts)
19. 18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 06:19 PM
Apr 2021

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242


Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 696; Pub. L. 90–284, title I, § 103(b), Apr. 11, 1968, 82 Stat. 75; Pub. L. 100–690, title VII, § 7019, Nov. 18, 1988, 102 Stat. 4396; Pub. L. 103–322, title VI, § 60006(b), title XXXII, §§ 320103(b), 320201(b), title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 1970, 2109, 2113, 2147; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, §§ 604(b)(14)(B), 607(a), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3507, 3511.)
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