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Fri May 21, 2021, 01:32 PM

Leaked Emails Show Crime App Citizen Is Testing On-Demand Security Force

Source: Vice News

Crime and neighborhood watch app Citizen has ambitions to deploy private security workers to the scene of disturbances at the request of app users, according to leaked internal Citizen documents and Citizen sources.

The plans mark a dramatic expansion of Citizen's purview. It is currently an app where users report "incidents" in their neighborhoods and, based on those reports and police scanner transcriptions, the app sends "real-time safety alerts" to users about crime and other incidents happening near where a user is located. It is essentially a mapping app that allows users to both report and learn about crime (or what users of the app perceive to be crime) in their neighborhood. The introduction of in-person, private security forces drastically alters the service, and potential impact, that Citizen may offer in the future, and provides more context as to why a Citizen-branded vehicle has been spotted driving around Los Angeles. The news comes after Citizen offered a $30,000 bounty against a person it falsely accused of starting a wildfire.

"The broad master plan was to create a privatized secondary emergency response network," one former Citizen employee told Motherboard. Motherboard granted multiple sources anonymity to protect them from retaliation from the company.

"It's been something discussed for a while but I personally never expected it to make it this far," another Citizen source told Motherboard.[/fiv]

Read more: https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7evbx/citizen-app-private-security-leaked-emails

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Reply Leaked Emails Show Crime App Citizen Is Testing On-Demand Security Force (Original post)
brooklynite May 2021 OP
soothsayer May 2021 #1
ExciteBike66 May 2021 #2
Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #3
bucolic_frolic May 2021 #4
DavidDvorkin May 2021 #5
SpankMe May 2021 #6
SKKY May 2021 #7
Snackshack May 2021 #8
Marcuse May 2021 #9
Arger68 May 2021 #10
paleotn May 2021 #11
3Hotdogs May 2021 #12
uncle ray May 2021 #13
Captain Zero May 2021 #14

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 01:33 PM

1. What could go wrong?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 01:40 PM

2. All the risk with no "qualified immunity"?

Is it security guard pay ($14 an hour to start!) with the added benefit of being sued by EVERYONE you deal with?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 01:49 PM

3. Well now they've ginned up the fear of every fraidy cat sitting by the "scanner" thinking the ...

.... BLM/Antifa hordes are coming to get them, they might as well cash in on the fear they helped create.

There are already private security working my neighborhood. I think some blocks got together and hired them.

Also, the nightclub area has private security run by a Chicago cop. He sold the service saying he would only hire off duty cops - turns out some of them arenít cops. Some are ex cons.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 01:55 PM

4. Lawyers might appreciate the new business

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 02:14 PM

5. This will add a new dimension to SWATting.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 02:21 PM

6. If anything will lead to real armed conflict between Americans, this is it. n/t

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 02:54 PM

7. I feel like they're testing the limitations of the gig economy...

...and yea, I think this just may be it.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 04:25 PM

8. How is this legal?

This has so many way it can go wrong and virtually zero that it can go right. This will bring every George Zimmerman and Kyle Rittenhouse out of the woodwork thinking they are some sort of "citizens watch patrol" with one finger on the summon the vigilantes app button and the other hand on a gun... i misspoke earlier... this is going to (not can go) be bad if it is allowed to continue.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 04:40 PM

9. The privatization of swatting.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 05:22 PM

10. Great idea! Every George Zimmerman

and Kyle Rittenhouse out there will be signing up to be a wannabe cop. What could possibly go wrong??

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 07:08 PM

11. A very, very, very bad idea.

Poorly trained OFFICIAL police are bad enough. Joe Blow redneck with his pea shooter? Ummm, no.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 07:32 PM

12. Well, s'pose you were the poor bastid in Missouri, sitting in his backyard, him and his wife,

minding their own business. Then, along came Antifa and B.L.M. marching up his street. He did what any red blooded, Trump lovin' American would do. He and his squeeze pulled out their guns to stand their ground.


So what happens? He gets indicted and has to run for Senate. THAT SUCKS !!!

Now if there had been a civilian posse comitatus like in the Citizens plan, he wouldn't'a been in no trouble.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat May 22, 2021, 12:12 AM

13. Kzitizen Karen Kops

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Response to uncle ray (Reply #13)

Sat May 22, 2021, 07:45 AM

14. The Vigilante App

it would seem

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