NRA Steps Up Attacks On Obama

[Denise21]

Source: huffingtonpost

WASHINGTON -- It didn't go unnoticed by the National Rifle Association that, during last week's presidential debate, President Barack Obama expressed support for renewing the assault weapons ban.

"I believe in the Second Amendment," Obama said in response to a question about gun violence. "Part of [the solution] is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced, but part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence."


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/nra-obama-gun-control_n_2003446.html

[Thrill]

1. Going to take YO GUNS ARGH ARGH

No one with a brain believes their bullshit.

[Skittles]

8. which is why NRA fans believe it

[primavera]

14. + 1,000 - n/t

[bluerum]

2. I would expect no less from them. That's why I will never join. They will

have to take my money out of my cold dead hands.

[CreekDog]

3. yeah, i noticed that among some DUers

[aikoaiko]

5. I wish the President didn't support banning popular rifles, shotguns, and pistols in...

...popular configurations, but I'm still voting for him. Its not a deal breaker.

President Obama and his admin had been very careful not to mention the AWB until that debate. I don't know if it was an error or a planned show of support for the legislation, but it gave the NRA the sound bite they've been

[CreekDog]

15. popular with gang members

[hack89]

16. Not really

Rifles are expensive and hard to hide. There is a reason rifles and shotguns account for such a very fraction of gun crimes.

on edit: the honest approach to gun control would be to ban handguns - they are the killers in society. The AWB is just like the TSA or Patriot Act - pure security theater that does not have a significant impact on public safety.

[CreekDog]

20. Such exhausting detail about guns from you, and little detail or discussion about progressive issues

as long as you only get animated about guns and not about children's healthcare, taking care of the poor (and programs for doing so), etc. --i don't think we really have enough in common to carry on a discussion.

[hack89]

21. I have stated my progressive solution to gun violence many times

but somehow the conversation always comes back to gun control.

1. Legalize drugs to remove the financial incentive.

2. Empty the prisons of non-violent drug offenders. Use the billions saved on education and health care.

3. Focus the judicial system like a laser on violent crimes. Use a gun to commit a crime and go to jail for a very long time.

4. Single payer health care with mental health coverage - reduce suicides and mass killings.

Is this something you could support?

[aikoaiko]

17. Not so much actually, but that is the lie the Brady Bunch Campaign likes to sell.

The president was correct in the second debate when he stated that criminal gun homicides involve small handguns that have nothing to do with the AWB.

The top 10 guns used in crimes in the U.S. in 2000, according to an unpublished study by U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and obtained exclusively by TIME:

1. Smith and Wesson .38 revolver
2. Ruger 9 mm semiautomatic
3. Lorcin Engineering .380 semiautomatic
4. Raven Arms .25 semiautomatic
5. Mossberg 12 gauge shotgun
6. Smith and Wesson 9mm semiautomatic
7. Smith and Wesson .357 revolver
8. Bryco Arms 9mm semiautomatic
9. Bryco Arms .380 semiautomatic
10. Davis Industries .380 semiautomatic

The list is derived from the center's investigations of 88,570 guns recovered from crime scenes in 46 cities in 2000, is being analyzed for ATF's youth gun crime interdiction initiative, which helps local police forces understand and counter gun trafficking to youth in their jurisdictions.

One measure by which ATF gauges a gun's appeal as an offensive (rather than a defensive or sporting) weapon is its "time-to-crime" factor — how long after its sale it is used in a crime. Revolvers, not generally used as an offensive weapon, had a median time-to-crime of 12.3 years, according to the 2000 figures. At the other extreme, Bryco Arms 9mm semiautomatics recovered from kids younger than18 had a median time-to-crime of 1.5 years, and those recovered from suspects aged 18 to 24 had a median time-to-crime of 1.1 years. The Hi Point 9mm is another downscale semiautomatic frequently seized from suspects in the 18-to-24 age range; it has a time-to-crime span of just one year.

Though most teenage gangbangers wouldn't be caught dead with a Smith and Wesson .38 revolver, an old fashioned six shooter, it nonetheless claims the lead on the top ten list. That's because there are literally millions in existence; Smith and Wesson introduced the .38 in 1899, and since then, models have proliferated, transforming the name "Smith and Wesson .38" into a generic label for a particular style of gun, even clones that aren't made by Smith and Wesson. Similarly, the Smith and Wesson .357 revolver, which was introduced in 1935, and the venerable Mossberg shotgun made the list based on the sheer volume in circulation.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,320383,00.html

[yellowcanine]

6. The NRA is just pissed that no one, not even Romney, is talking about gun rights.

Way down on the list of voter priorities this year.

[Skittles]

9. yes - makes it harder for them to pimp for the repuke candidate

[alp227]

7. Check out some Mike Malloy commentary blasting the NRA and its hysterical fears of Obama policy

Mike recalls the days when the NRA was a nonpartisan sport club:

Mike also ripped Wayne LaPierre's "OBAMA TAKIN AWAY YER GUNZ" speech:

[underpants]

10. The "SEE we actually DO something with your money....PLEASE give us more" campaign

The NRA is a joke

[llmart]

11. The NRA has become irrelevant....

especially in this election. Could be a couple of factors. Too many mass shootings occurring with more frequency. Angry, old white men dying off.

I think they'll eventually shrivel up to the point where no one pays much attention to them.

[Socal31]

24. Generalize much?

Are there any other items in the BoR that you associate so closely with race?

There are enough racially charged topics in the world, no need to try for more.

[allan01]

12. re:NRA Steps Up Attacks On Obama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association
then the nra should loose its tax exempt status as should alec.

[hack89]

18. As a 501(C)(4) organization, any money spent on partisan political activity is taxable. nt

[kelliekat44]

13. I wish these suckers would all go hunting with Cheney!

[formercia]

19. Got one of their Junkyard Dog flyers in the mail Yesterday

..didn't even read it. More trash to pay for disposal.

[elbloggoZY27]

23. To Far Right

The NRA is way out of line.

We are the Murder Capitol of the World.


The Second Amendment was written during a way different time and really needs to be amended for the 21st Century. We are a whole different United States.