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Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:14 PM

China says it is willing to work with the US on Afghanistan

Source: CNN



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China says it is willing to work with the US on Afghanistan
China is willing to work with the US for a “soft landing of the Afghan issue” to prevent the country from becoming a humanitarian disaster and breeding ground for terrorism, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Beijing said in a statement.

The statement from China’s Foreign Affairs Ministry said the two countries should find places to cooperate but warned that the United States could not count on China’s support and cooperation while impeding China’s “legitimate rights and interest.”

The State Department said the two diplomats discussed "the security situation and our respective efforts to bring US and PRC citizens to safety."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/afghanistan-taliban-us-news-08-16-21/h_f4b444bbae7d0d0e02894fd3f5ffb043




We should work with China on this.

I smell Putin in the folding of Afghan forces.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:16 PM

1. China want leverage and to rub the US nose in it.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:21 PM

2. Nothing to lose. Go for it

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:28 PM

3. Sounds interesting, until:

'the United States could not count on China’s support and cooperation while impeding China’s “legitimate rights and interest.”' Taiwan, eh?

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:47 PM

4. That all we need more greed to extract the minerals....

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:53 PM

5. This is what China is after -

"Afghanistan has vast reserves of gold, platinum, silver, copper, iron, chromite, lithium, uranium, and aluminium. The country's high-quality emeralds, rubies, sapphires, turquoise, and lapis lazuli have long charmed the gemstone market.Feb 1, 2020"

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Mon Aug 16, 2021, 11:19 PM

6. China wants access to all those rare minerals and Jems found in the mountains there

they will probably be more successful, using carrots instead of the stick.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:07 AM

12. YEs, China gets even MORE control over rare earth minerals. Which WE need

But China doesnt use carrots.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:19 AM

7. It's nice to see that it's possible people may have been reading

My posts about the riches of Afghanistan.

I'm ambivalent about working with the Chinese. I am prone to think it would be a mistake. Their track record on human rights is appalling and I think we need a break from Afghanistan, call it detox or a mental health break. Whatever, it's time to focus on America for a while.


Reference posts

~ The Riches of Afghanistan
https://democraticunderground.com/100215741006


~ Detailed list of mines and minerals
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15746266

~ More from Asia Times...
(about the 30 year copper mine contract)
Kabul starts race for Afghan resources
By Robert M Cutler

Snip...
In 2007, China won rights for the $2.9 billion development of a copper mine at Aynak**, Logan province, in the south, leading to the replacement of Afghanistan's previous minister of mines following accusations of bribery. The development of the 24,200-hectare site (over 15 square miles) will destroy an area filled with ruins of fifth-century Buddhist monasteries.

Aynak, believed to contain the second-largest copper reserves in the world, will be Afghanistan's largest infrastructure project. China has a 30-year lease and is expected to spend over $3 billion developing the project, where the deposits are estimated to be worth up to $88 billion. Snip...

https://web.archive.org/web/20111214231329/http://atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/ML15Df02.html

**see list of mines

❤pants

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:10 AM

10. Thanks for Mentioning the Real Reason We Were There!

Thanks for mentioning the real reason we were there! The billions of dollars worth of rare minerals in Afghanistan are never mentioned in the MSM. It's all about "democracy" and "womens rights" and other noble causes.

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Response to McKim (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:35 AM

11. You're welcome. It's really a very rich country, but don't let the plebs know that.

I think the government officials and the military leaders, plus the current occupying force, really don't want citizens to be educated at all. That would be too risky, they might figure out how they have been exploited and scammed all their lives.

There's so much corruption in all levels, across so many sectors, I wonder sometimes, if anyone even actually has a business that's above board and exists without palm greasing, coercion, shakedowns and backroom deals. I mean if you can't (or won't) even feed your own army because the money is pocketed by gangsters and warlords what kind of society it that?

Unfortunately, much of the wealth that exists there is found in extensive corrupt entanglements up and down the social economic ladder. Women and children are lucky they can find enough food to stay alive.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:08 AM

8. Nothing motivates like a plunging stock market

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:31 AM

9. Putin is unlikely to have anything to do with the Taliban, nor they with him.

I would look at Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Qatar who have been supporting Taliban interests since the 80's.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:44 AM

13. Also, the last thing China wants is the Taliban

Recruiting in China.

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Response to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:40 AM

14. This

The Uighurs are primed for this, given China’s brutal crackdown on their population.

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Response to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:10 AM

15. Pakistan controls the Taliban and China has significant influence over Pakistan

Look at all the money the Chinese have or loaned out or given to them since 2013. Pakistan in in deep with China.

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