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littlemissmartypants

(22,805 posts)
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 11:51 AM Aug 2021

Taliban agree to let Afghans leave Afghanistan after US withdrawal deadline

Source: AFP


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#BREAKING Taliban agree to let Afghans leave Afghanistan after US withdrawal deadline of August 31: German envoy https://t.co/RNJR68lgFd


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https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/taliban-agree-to-let-afghans-leave-after-august-31-german-envoy-2518636


Berlin: The Taliban will continue to allow Afghans who have the right documents to leave Afghanistan after the United States' withdrawal deadline on August 31, Germany's ambassador to Afghanistan said Wednesday.
Markus Potzel said on Twitter he had met with Taliban deputy chief negotiator Sher Mohammad Abbas Stanikzai, who had "assured me that Afghans with legal documents will continue to have the opportunity to travel on commercial flights after 31 August".



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Taliban agree to let Afghans leave Afghanistan after US withdrawal deadline (Original Post) littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 OP
Smart. Very smart. David__77 Aug 2021 #1
Don't be fooled. Once the foreign press leaves Ray Bruns Aug 2021 #17
Of course they did. Cuz they just needed to show their mighty might. Budi Aug 2021 #2
+1 -K&R onetexan Aug 2021 #26
My guess....Money talks to the Taliban just like everyone else.... ashredux Aug 2021 #3
Yup Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #9
The likelihood of drone strikes tends to focus the mind EYESORE 9001 Aug 2021 #4
That thought crossed my mind, too. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #11
You fear a drone strike? EYESORE 9001 Aug 2021 #12
Or would you prefer these? littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #18
The whole world is watching! elleng Aug 2021 #5
"who have the right documents" - "sorry but those are the documents from the old government... PoliticAverse Aug 2021 #6
This. Plus reports cbabe Aug 2021 #23
YaY! Biden is boss! Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #7
Watch the media ignore this part. C Moon Aug 2021 #20
K & R watching & waiting for a teeny mention. Maybe? Budi Aug 2021 #27
The Taliban shouldn't want these people in their country anyway... MrModerate Aug 2021 #8
They need them to run the country Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #10
What are they going to do? littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #13
They are going to eliminate them. Ray Bruns Aug 2021 #15
People want to work Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #16
They aren't going to have control over their trigger happy troops either. littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #19
"They aren't going to have control over their trigger happy troops either." Budi Aug 2021 #28
I fear a gunpoint is going to be the last thing these people see. Ray Bruns Aug 2021 #22
They didn't need them before Ray Bruns Aug 2021 #21
Exactly. littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #24
Yea, Yea, Yea, heard this before. Ray Bruns Aug 2021 #14
I'll believe it when it happens. Lonestarblue Aug 2021 #25
It doesn't bode well any way you cut it. EndlessWire Aug 2021 #36
They've never lied to us before, Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #29
"Afghans who have the right documents " KS Toronado Aug 2021 #30
Taliban has 9.5B reasons to do this Deminpenn Aug 2021 #31
And maybe even $3trillion more than that littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #33
They can't afford the upkeep. ananda Aug 2021 #32
Hungry people tend to riot dalton99a Aug 2021 #34
Surrreeeee they will. nt cstanleytech Aug 2021 #35

Ray Bruns

(4,111 posts)
17. Don't be fooled. Once the foreign press leaves
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:54 PM
Aug 2021

or is kicked out, the bloodbath begins. Tigers do not change their stripes.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
2. Of course they did. Cuz they just needed to show their mighty might.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:03 PM
Aug 2021

President Biden refused to commit to their bullshit posturing.
That, & they have no funds cuz US, Germany, & Finland hold the billion$ & froze access to it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
9. Yup
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:25 PM
Aug 2021

We still have a lot of pull with the purse strings. We will get the Americans who want to leave out by next week. Some Afghan allies who want to leave are going to be left behind, we will continue to negotiate their leaving after our troops have left. How compliant the Taliban is will determine how good of a change they have to maintain a functioning government.

We also have high value prisoners to exchange.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. "who have the right documents" - "sorry but those are the documents from the old government...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:08 PM
Aug 2021

you must have the new official Taliban government documents."

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
8. The Taliban shouldn't want these people in their country anyway...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:19 PM
Aug 2021

They are clearly tainted with westernism and don't want to be ruled by Sharia law.

Better to let them go: otherwise you'll have to kill them all, and their families.

Not good for civilian morale, especially if you're trying to knit a fragmented nation together.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
10. They need them to run the country
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:29 PM
Aug 2021

Everything they are doing seems to indicate that the Taliban actually wants to control a functioning government, they realize their control won't be long if it isn't functioning.

So they want government workers and skilled people to stay. Going to be a tight rope for both sides.

littlemissmartypants

(22,805 posts)
13. What are they going to do?
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:48 PM
Aug 2021

Force them to "run the country" at gunpoint?


The Taliban have caught a tiger by the tail, if you ask me.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
16. People want to work
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:53 PM
Aug 2021

They're already telling them to go to work.

How they handle women is going to be interesting, they've indicated they want them to work, but right now have said stay home because the rank and file members of the Taliban aren't all on board with that yet. And that's the trick, the Taliban aren't going to have control over some regions whose warlords might have different ideas.

littlemissmartypants

(22,805 posts)
19. They aren't going to have control over their trigger happy troops either.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 01:04 PM
Aug 2021

I don't even think "troops" is the correct terminology for the rag tag bunch we are seeing right now.

Maybe they are saving the "good stuff" for a special occasion, like you would chocolate or wine or a fancy new dress.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
28. "They aren't going to have control over their trigger happy troops either."
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 02:54 PM
Aug 2021

Yup. This ⬆️

With the Afghan people gone & the billion$ now in untouchable accts outside Taliban control, what is left?
A big plot of dirt & far bigger, meaner Powers than the mealey-mouthed Taliban, just waiting for their share of the Afghanistan pie.

littlemissmartypants

(22,805 posts)
24. Exactly.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 01:38 PM
Aug 2021

Reminds me of the saying...

Failure to plan on your part, doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.


I am wondering how realistic the Tban is about what it will take to run a country. I don't see any binders full of policy and instructions. I doubt that they have any coherent plans for anything.

It's like suddenly the junior high student government is in charge of the gun cabinet.

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
25. I'll believe it when it happens.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 02:23 PM
Aug 2021

The Taliban seem to be clever with their wording. Women and girls will have freedom and rights under shariah law (but the Taliban makes up the law according to their extremist views). The Taliban will allow Afghans with the “right documents” to leave Afghanistan—but they get to decide whether documents are right. I truly hope I’m wrong, and this Taliban is not as vicious as the one 20 years ago.

EndlessWire

(6,569 posts)
36. It doesn't bode well any way you cut it.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:59 PM
Aug 2021

They think we are really stupid and will believe whatever we are told. If they want women to work, it's because they need slaves. They didn't suddenly become ultra hip, modern businessmen. They understand cash, however, and some probably changed hands. I'll believe it when I see it, too.

littlemissmartypants

(22,805 posts)
33. And maybe even $3trillion more than that
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 03:12 PM
Aug 2021

Snip...
Afghanistan is believed to be sitting on one of the richest troves of minerals in the world. The value of these resources has been roughly estimated between $1-3 trillion.

Afghanistan has vast reserves of gold, platinum, silver, copper, iron, chromite, lithium, uranium, and aluminium. The country’s high-quality emeralds, rubies, sapphires, turquoise, and lapis lazuli have long charmed the gemstone market. The United States Geological Survey (USGS), through its extensive scientific research of minerals, concluded that Afghanistan may hold 60 million metric tons of copper, 2.2 billion tons of iron ore, 1.4 million tons of rare earth elements (REEs) such as lanthanum, cerium, neodymium, and veins of aluminium, gold, silver, zinc, mercury, and lithium. According to Pentagon officials, their initial analysis at one location in Ghazni province showed the potential for lithium deposits as large as those of Bolivia, which has the world’s largest known lithium reserves. The USGS estimates the Khanneshin deposits in Helmand province will yield 1.1.-1.4 million metric tons of REEs. Some reports estimate Afghanistan REE resources are among the largest on earth. snip...

https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/afghanistans-mineral-resources-are-a-lost-opportunity-and-a-threat/

Reference thread...

The Riches of Afghanistan

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215741006

dalton99a

(81,590 posts)
34. Hungry people tend to riot
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 03:53 PM
Aug 2021

With the current food and cash shortages, it is possible that the Taliban will use this opportunity to get rid of 'excess' people - send them to the West



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