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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:22 PM Sep 2021

DeSantis Warns Businesses Who Follow Biden's Vaccine Mandate Will Be Fined $5K Per Employee

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Source: Newsweek

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis vowed to fight President Joe Biden over his vaccine mandates, and on Monday he warned businesses in the state that they would be charged if they ask customers for proof of vaccination.

Speaking in Alachua County, DeSantis slammed Biden's vaccine requirements and argued the president is ignoring the science regarding people's natural immunity after being infected with COVID-19. The Republican governor and fellow elected officials committed to their stance by banning so-called vaccine passports or requiring proof of vaccination through both an executive order and a law. That rule is going into effect on September 16.

On Monday, DeSantis said that any cities or counties in Florida that require public government employees to get vaccinated to keep their jobs will be charged $5,000 for every single violation, with violators at risk of paying millions of dollars in fines.

"We are going to stand for the men and women who are serving us. We are going to protect Florida jobs," the governor said. "We are not going to let people be fired because of a vaccine mandate."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/desantis-warns-businesses-who-follow-bidens-vaccine-mandate-will-be-fined-dollar5k-per-employee/ar-AAOpeDQ



Sounds like he wants to make Florida a disease ridden, poverty stricken, shithole state.
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DeSantis Warns Businesses Who Follow Biden's Vaccine Mandate Will Be Fined $5K Per Employee (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Gawd! Joe should praise apple pie and football and see how DeathSentence overreacts. underpants Sep 2021 #1
Sounds like a sure increase in death, Governor Death Sentence. Lock him Up. Enough FL. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #2
The devil's shakin' his little rattle Blue Owl Sep 2021 #3
Threats Roy Rolling Sep 2021 #4
Does he even have the power to impose such fines? Sibelius Fan Sep 2021 #5
Exactly. Talk about taking rights away from people. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #7
I doubt you can fine people Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #15
Ahhhh...another free market Republican. n/t CincyDem Sep 2021 #6
This is a double dog dare on his part. Sheesh! I hope someone tries to prosecute him for negligent Tadpole Raisin Sep 2021 #8
De Santis Diamond_Dog Sep 2021 #9
The guy's insane packman Sep 2021 #11
Hey, Florida businesses? Sick of government overreach? Come to California! Grokenstein Sep 2021 #12
It's not COVID...... MyOwnPeace Sep 2021 #13
Does he realize most of people dying at this point are his voters? tinrobot Sep 2021 #14
I think Republicans take the question "How stupid can you get?" as a challenge. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #16
He has gone all in on the MAGA 2024 nomination. Jon King Sep 2021 #17
Are public employees covered by OSHA? It depends. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #19
These are business not counties Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #21
It will never stand in the courts. For starters the punishment does not fit the crime..besides... PortTack Sep 2021 #28
Companies should issue lay off notices BidenRocks Sep 2021 #20
he is what's known as " a complete waste of a educational skill's " ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #22
Fire the unvaccinated employee and use their salary to pay the fine... Sancho Sep 2021 #23
trump and turtle with evil grins in the background. C Moon Sep 2021 #24
Sounds like civil war. Xoan Sep 2021 #25
DeSantis does not have the cojones to arrest them. keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #26
He's emboldened by the judge that reversed the mask mandate. Jacobson vs Massachusetts 1905 PortTack Sep 2021 #27
what are the real numbers in FLA? Shellback Squid Sep 2021 #29
*LOCKING* Spazito Sep 2021 #30

underpants

(182,803 posts)
1. Gawd! Joe should praise apple pie and football and see how DeathSentence overreacts.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:24 PM
Sep 2021

Evolve Dammit

(16,733 posts)
2. Sounds like a sure increase in death, Governor Death Sentence. Lock him Up. Enough FL.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:24 PM
Sep 2021

Blue Owl

(50,374 posts)
3. The devil's shakin' his little rattle
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:28 PM
Sep 2021

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
4. Threats
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:29 PM
Sep 2021

Leadership style of a weak tyrant.

Sibelius Fan

(24,396 posts)
5. Does he even have the power to impose such fines?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:30 PM
Sep 2021

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
7. Exactly. Talk about taking rights away from people.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:32 PM
Sep 2021

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
10. I doubt you can fine people
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:41 PM
Sep 2021

for complying with OSHA regulations.

Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #10)

CincyDem

(6,358 posts)
6. Ahhhh...another free market Republican. n/t
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:31 PM
Sep 2021

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
8. This is a double dog dare on his part. Sheesh! I hope someone tries to prosecute him for negligent
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:32 PM
Sep 2021

homicide since this is a complete abdication of his responsibility for insuring the safety of the public (I wish - I know it can’t happen).

Run for re-election or President, I don’t care, and get slaughtered and humiliated at the polls! Then shunned by all. It still wouldn’t be enough.

Diamond_Dog

(31,999 posts)
9. De Santis
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:35 PM
Sep 2021

Making protecting your health illegal

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
11. The guy's insane
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:42 PM
Sep 2021

Grokenstein

(5,723 posts)
12. Hey, Florida businesses? Sick of government overreach? Come to California!
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:44 PM
Sep 2021

Be careful passing through Texas, AKA Damnation Alley, though.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
13. It's not COVID......
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:45 PM
Sep 2021

but THAT MAN sure is sick!

tinrobot

(10,900 posts)
14. Does he realize most of people dying at this point are his voters?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:48 PM
Sep 2021

Or is he that f*cking stupid?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
16. I think Republicans take the question "How stupid can you get?" as a challenge.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:51 PM
Sep 2021

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
17. He has gone all in on the MAGA 2024 nomination.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:54 PM
Sep 2021

Obviously he is going all in on the Presidential nomination for 2024. It will be for nothing. PA, MI, WI have Dem governors so no voter suppression passed there. And being 'Floridah Man' will cause him to lose a few percentage of the vote Trump got. Some Repug folks up north just will not vote if the choice is a Democrat or Floridah man.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
18. Are public employees covered by OSHA? It depends.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:58 PM
Sep 2021
On Monday, DeSantis said that any cities or counties in Florida that require public government employees to get vaccinated to keep their jobs will be charged $5,000 for every single violation, with violators at risk of paying millions of dollars in fines.

https://www.google.com/search?q=does+osha+cover+state+employees

Are public employees covered by OSHA?

State and Local Government Workers
Workers at state and local government agencies are not covered by Federal OSHA, but have OSH Act protections if they work in those states that have an OSHA-approved state program.

Federal Government Workers
OSHA's protection applies to all federal agencies.

State Plan Frequently Asked Questions

What is an OSHA-Approved State Plan?

OSHA Coverage

The Occupational Safety and Health (OSH) Act covers most private sector employers and their workers, in addition to some state and local government employers and their workers in the 50 states and certain territories and jurisdictions under federal authority. Those jurisdictions include the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Wake Island, Johnston Island, and the Outer Continental Shelf Lands as defined in the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act.

Private Sector Workers

OSHA covers most private sector employers and workers in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the other United States (U.S.) jurisdictions – either directly through OSHA or through an OSHA-approved State Plan. State Plans are OSHA-approved job safety and health programs operated by individual states rather than federal OSHA. Section 18 of the OSH Act encourages states to develop and operate their own job safety and health programs and precludes state enforcement of OSHA standards unless the state has an OSHA-approved State Plan.

OSHA approves and monitors all State Plans and provides as much as 50 percent of the funding for each program. State-run safety and health programs must be at least as effective (ALAE) as the federal OSHA program. OSHA provides coverage to certain workers specifically excluded from a State Plan (for example, those in some states who work in maritime industries or on military bases). To find the contact information of the OSHA or State Plan office nearest to you, call 1-800-321-OSHA or go to www.osha.gov.

The following 22 states or territories have OSHA-approved State Plans that cover both private and state and local government workers:

• Alaska
• Arizona
• California
• Hawaii
• Indiana
• Iowa
• Kentucky
• Maryland
• Michigan
• Minnesota
• Nevada
• New Mexico
• North Carolina
• Oregon
• Puerto Rico
• South Carolina
• Tennessee
• Utah
• Vermont
• Virginia
• Washington
• Wyoming

State and Local Government Workers

Workers at state and local government agencies are not covered by OSHA, but have OSH Act protections if they work in states that have an OSHA-approved State Plan. OSHA rules also permit states and territories to develop plans that cover state and local government workers only. In these cases, private sector workers and employers remain under federal OSHA jurisdiction.

Five additional states and one U.S. territory (Virgin Islands) have OSHA-approved State Plans that cover state and local government workers only:

• Connecticut
• Illinois
• Maine
• New Jersey
• New York
• Virgin Islands

Next question, is Florida a state-plan state?

OSHA State Plans

No. Florida is a federal OSHA state. Workers at state and local government agencies are not covered by Federal OSHA.

All About OSHA

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
21. These are business not counties
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:14 PM
Sep 2021

I'm aware of the other article.

PortTack

(32,767 posts)
28. It will never stand in the courts. For starters the punishment does not fit the crime..besides...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:45 PM
Sep 2021

What crime? Who was hurt? NO ONE!!

BidenRocks

(827 posts)
20. Companies should issue lay off notices
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:12 PM
Sep 2021

to their employees.
Time to relocate.
See how he reacts to that.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
22. he is what's known as " a complete waste of a educational skill's " !
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:14 PM
Sep 2021

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
23. Fire the unvaccinated employee and use their salary to pay the fine...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:16 PM
Sep 2021

...

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
24. trump and turtle with evil grins in the background.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:16 PM
Sep 2021

Xoan

(25,321 posts)
25. Sounds like civil war.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:20 PM
Sep 2021

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
26. DeSantis does not have the cojones to arrest them.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:33 PM
Sep 2021

DeSantis does not have the cojones to arrest them.

They are breaking the law. Right?

PortTack

(32,767 posts)
27. He's emboldened by the judge that reversed the mask mandate. Jacobson vs Massachusetts 1905
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:43 PM
Sep 2021

Is the SCOTUS precedent.

“The rights of the individual do not outweigh the rights of many when it comes to public health.”

He and ab-butt live in such bubbles! They have NO idea how unpopular they are nationally

Shellback Squid

(8,916 posts)
29. what are the real numbers in FLA?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:46 PM
Sep 2021

Spazito

(50,338 posts)
30. *LOCKING*
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:49 PM
Sep 2021

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