SpaceX's private Inspiration4 mission splashes down safely in Atlantic Ocean
Source: CNBC
SpaceX safely returned its Crew Dragon spacecraft from orbit on Saturday, with the capsule carrying the four members of the Inspiration4 mission back to Earth after three days in space. Crew Dragon capsule Resilience splashed down off the coast of Cape Canaveral, Florida in the Atlantic Ocean. Elon Musk tweeted his congratulations to the crew shortly after splashdown.
The historic private mission which includes commander Jared Isaacman, pilot Sian Proctor, medical officer Hayley Arceneaux and mission specialist Chris Sembroski orbited the Earth at an altitude as high as 590 kilometers, which is above the International Space Station and the furthest humans have traveled above the surface in years. A free-flying spaceflight, the capsule did not dock with the ISS but instead circled the Earth independently at a rate of 15 orbits per day.
Inspiration4 shared photos from the crews time in orbit, giving a look at the expansive views from the spacecrafts cupola window.This is the third time SpaceX has returned astronauts from space, and the second time for this capsule which previously flew the Crew-1 mission for NASA on a trip that returned in May. Both prior SpaceX astronaut missions splashed down in the Gulf of Mexico, making this the first that returned in the Atlantic Ocean.
The mission also comes with multiple other milestones for Musks company, including: The first private SpaceX spaceflight, the first entirely nonprofessional crew to become astronauts, the first Black female spacecraft pilot, the youngest American astronaut to date, and the first person to fly in space with a prosthesis.
Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/18/watch-spacex-livestream-inspiration4-splashdown-crew-dragon-returns.html
Link to tweet
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@SpaceX
Splashdown! Welcome back to planet Earth, @Inspiration4x!
7:08 PM · Sep 18, 2021
Now they are rigging it up to lift it out of the water and onto the recovery ship.
ETA - now on the ship.
PSPS
(13,614 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,207 posts)Billionaires in Space.....
lonely bird
(1,688 posts)I am glad that the people are safe. Beyond that? Howzabout the monies be spent on some other things?
diverdownjt
(702 posts)This is paving the way for all of humanity to survive the big rock hit.
If you don't think it can happen...look at Chelyabinsk a few years ago.
the rock's are out there and it will happen again...GO SpaceX GO.
lonely bird
(1,688 posts)Paving the way for humanity to survive the big rock hit takes far more than SpaceX or any other billionaire. It takes monies on a truly massive scale, planning on a truly massive scale including experts from likely hundreds of fields.
I dont give a damn about SpaceX. It is a waste of money. Sure, we can use the old its his money bullshit excuse but that doesnt mean it isnt a waste.
Oh, and when or if the big rock comes billionaires should have no more advantage in being selected than any other person on the planet.
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)So you prefer that the U.S. go back to only using Russian Soyuz vehicles to take our astronauts up to the ISS instead of the American SpaceX, which is who has started doing them for us now?
RAH RAH RUSSIA!!!111!!!!!!
M'kay.
The "millionaires and billionaires" sloganeering is just juvenile.
lonely bird
(1,688 posts)Who will decide who gets to live if or when the aforementioned big rock hits?
Who will get to decide how colonies on the moon or Mars are established and how they will be governed?
Dont put fucking words in my mouth. Did I say that I wanted the U.S. just to use Russian crap?
I want a U.S. space program. I am well aware that equipment is built by companies. I DONT want companies and people like Bezos, Musk and Branson controlling the program.
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)without a broad coalition of people.
We have a U.S. space program. It's operating just fine and it has ALWAYS used private contractors to assist in the development of our space craft and you are continuing to dismiss that.
None of those men is "controlling" any of our "programs". They are doing their own thing and OUR PROGRAM is "hiring them" to do a specific set of tasks as part of that. All 3 "applied" to supply their services to OUR PROGRAM. Right now only ONE has been able to successfully do that to date and that is SpaceX.
Last I heard, when you "hire someone", YOU are "in control". They are not "hiring" the U.S. government. If you want to look at "deep pockets", the U.S. Treasury is the deepest of them all and surely dwarfs that of the "billionaires".
If you can't see past those 3 private owners, then maybe consider trashing threads like this in the future.
Happy Hoosier
(7,386 posts)Expanding the development of access to space to multiple companies, and lowering the "expertise" bar for crew/passengers is a critical step to making such access cheap and reliable. In the early 20th century, such a thing happened in aviation, and the development of that technology happened very quickly.
Companies like Space-X and Virgin Galactic, and Blue Horizon are making that happen.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)I don't like the 1% at ALL. But this is cutting edge technology that can potentially one day save all of us.
No issues with SpaceX or Musk for this.
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)(at one time, the most "famous" of them all )
https://www.ranker.com/list/hughes-aircraft-aircraft-types/reference
https://www.rfcafe.com/references/electronics-mag/hughes-aircraft-company-electronics-mag-oct-18-1965.htm
HUGHES AIRCRAFT - https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Hughes_Aircraft_Company
Sneederbunk
(14,300 posts)diverdownjt
(702 posts)All will be beneficial someday in the not too distant future.
CaptainTruth
(6,601 posts)...in aerospace.
And sadly, cue all the comments from folks who think the hundreds of thousands of Americans who work to support our space program don't deserve a good job that allows them to house & feed their families, just because a few rich guys are involved.
question everything
(47,534 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,601 posts)But hey they're rich so we have to hate them & say $150+ million for a children's hospital doesn't matter.
/sarcasm?
Edit to add: Confirmed this mission has now raised more than $200 million for St Jude Children's Hospital.
RussBLib
(9,035 posts)To get up to $200 million. Good for him.
BidenRocks
(827 posts)This is Elon's show and I love it!
Since Star Trek in 1966 I wanted excitement,
This is Elon Musk, not NASA.
I am too old to wait.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)It's hard to imagine another country where Elon Musk would have been able to build the company that SpaceX is today. Policies, funding, and talent from the US is why this is happening. s
BidenRocks
(827 posts)Unless you are based in a red state, (look at all the biggies), you get millions to their billions.
Where is the adventure in NASA.
Space X has landed 92 boosters. What has NASA, not JPL, done of note lately?
SLS? Artemis?
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)Why are people so blind to the fact that NASA CONTRACTED OUT ALL OF ITS SPACE PROGRAM throughout its entire existence?
The main difference between "then" and "now" is that back then (before 2011), when NASA did their contracts and used "taxpayer dollars" to pay for it, the government "owned" the end product (the "tech" - hardware, software modules, etc) so that NASA could "slap its name on the side of the vehicle" per the contract stipulation. The actual "non-private industry government employees were essentially SMEs (subject matter experts), researchers, and techies, with many of them becoming Project Managers who helped to define the project goals, do some design, and be able to "define the work product" so that the actual work could be contracted to private entities to build and maintain.
Government employees worked alongside their contractors as part of teams to get the job done.
"Now", it's the same taxpayer dollars used for NASA contracts where the government "defines" the goals and helps with the design elements, but are allowing private industry to "own" their product (probably with some exceptions where the government defines which hardware/software modules are or should be "government-owned" systems), so a contractor (private entity) like SpaceX, can slap THEIR name on the side of the vehicle.
I hate to say but the difference is essentially a "cosmetic" change, outside of the fact that the federal government is not supposed to be a "for-profit" entity where private industry (at least in this field) generally is.
For example, some of the big contractors were -
BOEING - https://www.boeing.com/space/
GRUMMAN (now Northrop-Grumman) - https://www.northropgrumman.com/space/space-legacy/
MCDONNELL-DOUGLAS (eventually gobbled up by Boeing) - https://old.texasarchive.org/a_journey_to_the_moon/mcdonnell_douglas/
GENERAL ELECTRIC - https://www.ge.com/news/reports/the-right-stuff-ge-tech-has-been-at-the-launch
LOCKHEED MARTIN - https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/history/space-race.html
NORTH AMERICAN/ROCKWELL - https://old.texasarchive.org/a_journey_to_the_moon/north_american_rockwell/
ROCKETDYNE - https://www.rocket.com/who-we-are/history
See this too - https://history.nasa.gov/MHR-5/app_c.htm
For example, the contractors involved with the Saturn rockets (which are still used today) -
This may be instructive - https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4102/contents.htm
And note this from the above link -
The NASA Acquisition Process: Contracting for Research and Development
A SUMMARY OF NASA CONTRACTING PHILOSOPHY
[65] From its establishment to the present, NASA has contracted with the private sector for most of the products and services it uses.
https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4102/ch4.htm
There is this disingenuous fantasy going around that NASA was peopled with nothing but a bunch of GS-7 and GS-9 Civil Service "grunts" running around designing and constructing space craft and there was no "private industry" involved.
And I say this as a now-retired, 30+ year federal employee who worked with "contractors" at my own worksite, at various points throughout my federal career.
lonely bird
(1,688 posts)Because NASA required them to do so. My father-in-law worked at NASA at what is now the Glenn facility in Cleveland for many years. So, yeah, there were plenty of NASA employees who were every bit as instrumental as those companies.
The only reason those companies did what they did is because the government doesnt own the means of production. They did what they did at the direction of the government.
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)The government came up with the concepts and goals, set expectations for the work product, and monitored the output.
But the entire production process of NASA wasn't done by "Civil Service employees" as what seems to be the fantasy narrative being insisted upon here.
And even if we brought the shuttle program back (and I prefer that tech rather than doing retro-style "splash downs" in the ocean - although I understand there were many technical and energy consumption issues with the shuttles), it would be the same thing - contracting out.
Before SpaceX (which is an American company) started doing the recent crew missions to the ISS, we were paying fucking Russia to take our astronauts (and supplies) up there and bring them back. As the rancor between the U.S. and Russia has ramped up, I sure as hell wouldn't want something as sensitive as getting crew up and back to the ISS, put into jeopardy. In the recent past, post-USSR, a lot of the back and forth rhetoric between the U.S. and Russia was generally just rhetoric. But now it has taken on a more ominous tone that threatens even "international scientific agreements", which tried to stay away from "politics".
Converting the U.S. to a "Marxist-style" system is just silly because pure human nature and behavior will never allow it to thrive in any "pure" form. We can't even get people to wear a fucking mask.
And if you go one step further to "Communism" where the "people own the means of production", you still have the danger of despot leaders throwing monkey wrenches into the process.
ripcord
(5,537 posts)Everyone from IBM to General Motors and Boeing along with hundreds of other contractors.
BumRushDaShow
(129,440 posts)and you saw my post about that contracting - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2802123
The contracts help to broaden the scope of talent to get a job done. And those mentioned were just the "Prime" contractors. All of them had subcontractors who could work smaller parts of a contract, including designing, sourcing, or manufacturing special or proprietary parts, as well as being able to provide temp SME services.
A most recent example is a contractor who worked with NASA and JPL folks on this adorable little guy -
AeroVironment - https://www.avinc.com/about/mars-helicopter
I had to bust out the earbuds to hear the audio of Ingenuity's flight from the clip above because I have ambient noise from an air purifier nearby and couldn't make it out, even with the sound all the way up.
That little helicopter is just damn cool and doing that on another planet! I saw mention that the Ingenuity project and mission has been extended indefinitely as of September 5, 2021.
sarchasm
(1,012 posts)NBachers
(17,136 posts)movie I remember seeing was called Conquest of Space in 1955.
Congratulations to those who've worked on every scientific advancement that has brought us to this point in our journey into space!
ancianita
(36,133 posts)such a partnership can do BOTH for the benefit of humans.
When government regulates that partnership, corporations do much more well AND good.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)WOW!
That is all.