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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,060 posts)
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:32 PM Nov 2021

In race to provide internet from space, companies ask FCC for about 38,000 new broadband satellites

Source: CNBC

A flurry of space companies filed requests with the Federal Communications Commission on Thursday for new or expanded broadband networks, asking the regulator for approval of nearly 38,000 total satellites.

Amazon, Astra, Boeing, Inmarsat, Intelsat, Hughes Network, OneWeb, SpinLaunch, and Telesat are among those asking the FCC for access to what is known as V-band spectrum, a range of frequency that the companies hope to use to provide global broadband service from space.

The FCC's deadline for its latest processing round of proposals to use V-band was Thursday at midnight, driving the influx of applications.

"It's just a land grab," Quilty Analytics founder Chris Quilty told CNBC. Quilty's boutique research and investment firm focused on the satellite communications sector.


Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/in-race-to-provide-internet-from-space-companies-ask-fcc-for-about-38000-new-broadband-satellites/ar-AAQmGsS?li=BBnb7Kz

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In race to provide internet from space, companies ask FCC for about 38,000 new broadband satellites (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 OP
V band has limited practicality for space-ground comms Zorro Nov 2021 #1
Do we not have enough crap in orbit yet? 2naSalit Nov 2021 #2
THANKS! elleng Nov 2021 #6
This is their plan ... but now in space TomWilm Nov 2021 #11
Nah. OneCrazyDiamond Nov 2021 #14
Seems like it. 2naSalit Nov 2021 #23
This is getting crazy. There's a risk in allowing so many satellites in low earth orbit. LastDemocratInSC Nov 2021 #3
Who is paying for this? These billionaires should fund their own satellites. notdarkyet Nov 2021 #4
They satellites are being paid for by the companies. This is a good thing cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #21
38,000 new satellites? Where in space will be there be room to park these things? AND... SWBTATTReg Nov 2021 #5
Lest we forget the hundreds of... 2naSalit Nov 2021 #7
I know, also the car or truck or whatever he sent up there too. SWBTATTReg Nov 2021 #9
next ,we'll be hit with low orbit school bus's ! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #22
+1000 ancianita Nov 2021 #12
This destroys Earth based astronomy as well exboyfil Nov 2021 #8
According to astrophysicist Paul Sutter, not at all. ancianita Nov 2021 #13
It sounds like a huge number. bluedigger Nov 2021 #10
It's already a traffic jam up there keithbvadu2 Nov 2021 #15
What could possibly go wrong with all the space-junk up there? Hekate Nov 2021 #16
kessler syndrome. Javaman Nov 2021 #17
Great canetoad Nov 2021 #18
Snorf! Bayard Nov 2021 #20
more shit to get hit in the head with ! what go's up , comes down ! jeeze ! monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #19
Read up..those are the Corporations that will OWN high speed Internet in the future Bengus81 Nov 2021 #24
Deny them. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #25
Getting crowded. Marcuse Nov 2021 #26
How will it impact climate? LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #27
Posted a related article here: eppur_se_muova Nov 2021 #28
"This is a land grab"..."of oceanfront real estate." stuffmatters Nov 2021 #29

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
3. This is getting crazy. There's a risk in allowing so many satellites in low earth orbit.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:56 PM
Nov 2021

A few collisions among all those satellites, whether accidental or not, could cause a cascading collision event that could affect our ability to get anything beyond LEO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
21. They satellites are being paid for by the companies. This is a good thing
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:23 PM
Nov 2021

It will allow high speed internet to rural areas.

SWBTATTReg

(22,144 posts)
5. 38,000 new satellites? Where in space will be there be room to park these things? AND...
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 02:12 PM
Nov 2021

these are just the USA ones...what about other countries and their satellites? Going to have to expand the range of communications to allow satellites to park themselves further out in space so as to not congest the space lanes. Shoot, one day will we be even able to launch a manned mission to space (e.g., Mars, etc.) w/o there being untold danger of collisions, etc.?

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
7. Lest we forget the hundreds of...
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 02:21 PM
Nov 2021

starlink garbage Elon Musk put out there already. Every time I try to look at the night sky, I see that shit... totally ruins being in the wilderness.

SWBTATTReg

(22,144 posts)
9. I know, also the car or truck or whatever he sent up there too.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 02:40 PM
Nov 2021

What are the powers that be going to do? Eventually I suspect that they'll have to ration or auction off to the highest bidder slots in space? And I thought that space was literally free to all, but I suspect that it's going to go to the highest bidder/or the one w/ the biggest pockets and thus, actually try and monopolize space...and I thought space was the last frontier...

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
22. next ,we'll be hit with low orbit school bus's !
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 12:39 AM
Nov 2021

maybe we should check into low orbit houseing , no tax's because no gov. own's anything ! no bad weather , just get killed by space junk ? just a theory ?

ancianita

(36,109 posts)
12. +1000
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 03:23 PM
Nov 2021

There's an FCC should hear about all this catering to a 'dishy' market while they refuse to expand land based broadband to 80 million Americans.

I hear you about the night sky; worse, Elon's got plans to get up to 30,000 into orbit.

ancianita

(36,109 posts)
13. According to astrophysicist Paul Sutter, not at all.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 03:30 PM
Nov 2021

But without an atmosphere -- which doesn't exist anywhere close by Earth -- there is absolutely no avoiding all the cosmic debris, which is worse than our orbital garbage. Elon's SpaceX is to make money, not explore space.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
10. It sounds like a huge number.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 02:56 PM
Nov 2021

Until you consider there are nearly a billion and a half cars right here on Planet Earth. I'm not saying it's benign, but it's not apocalyptical, either.

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
17. kessler syndrome.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 05:40 PM
Nov 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome


The Kessler syndrome (also called the Kessler effect,[1][2] collisional cascading, or ablation cascade), proposed by NASA scientist Donald J. Kessler in 1978, is a scenario in which the density of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO) due to space pollution is high enough that collisions between objects could cause a cascade in which each collision generates space debris that increases the likelihood of further collisions.[3] In 2009 Kessler wrote that modeling results had concluded that the debris environment was already unstable, "such that any attempt to achieve a growth-free small debris environment by eliminating sources of past debris will likely fail because fragments from future collisions will be generated faster than atmospheric drag will remove them".[4] One implication is that the distribution of debris in orbit could render space activities and the use of satellites in specific orbital ranges difficult for many generations.[3]

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
24. Read up..those are the Corporations that will OWN high speed Internet in the future
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 09:00 AM
Nov 2021

Think there will be competition? Not a chance,just like now.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
29. "This is a land grab"..."of oceanfront real estate."
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 10:11 PM
Nov 2021

If the FCC permits these applications, they should charge these companies millions for each satellite and have very strict regulations. Don't make the same stupid mistakes of giving away
what belongs to the US taxpayers that they did with bigOil, bigPharma and bigNet.

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