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Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:31 PM

Army vax deadline: 2 battalion commanders relieved, discharges begin January, 98% comply

Source: Military Times

The Army’s deadline for active duty troops to be vaccinated against COVID-19 passed Wednesday, and Army officials offered a snapshot of the service’s data and next steps in a Thursday morning release.

The vast majority of the Army’s approximately 485,900 active duty soldiers have complied with the Pentagon’s vaccine requirement, the release said — 96% of troops are fully vaccinated, and an additional 2% have received at least one dose.

Only 3,864 soldiers have “refused the vaccination order without a pending or approved exemption,” the release said. That includes two battalion commanders and an additional four “leaders” who have been relieved, but the release didn’t specify the rank or echelon of the latter four.

In January, commanders will begin involuntarily discharging soldiers who have refused the shot. Most of them — 2,767 — have already received a general officer memorandum of reprimand, an adverse administrative action that could end their careers even if they now opt to get the shot.

Read more: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/12/16/army-vax-deadline-2-battalion-commanders-relieved-discharges-begin-january-98-comply/



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Reply Army vax deadline: 2 battalion commanders relieved, discharges begin January, 98% comply (Original post)
HAB911 Dec 2021 OP
pwb Dec 2021 #1
Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #2
HAB911 Dec 2021 #8
Johnny2X2X Dec 2021 #12
crickets Dec 2021 #15
Texin Dec 2021 #3
AkFemDem Dec 2021 #5
qazplm135 Dec 2021 #17
HAB911 Dec 2021 #6
AkFemDem Dec 2021 #4
sdfernando Dec 2021 #10
atreides1 Dec 2021 #16
Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #7
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 #9
Aristus Dec 2021 #11
HAB911 Dec 2021 #13
Aristus Dec 2021 #14
BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #18
orangecrush Dec 2021 #19
DallasNE Dec 2021 #20

Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:33 PM

1. They showed us.

They won't be missed is my guess.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:34 PM

2. This has the side benefit of weeding out many of the kooks and fascists in the forces. Nt

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:39 PM

8. Silver linings

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:07 PM

12. Agree 100%

Vaccine mandates weed out soldiers who don't care about their fellow soldiers. It weeds out nurses who don't follow science. It weeds out police officers who can't be trusted with the public good.

All across the country, these firings are making companies stronger. Across the board, even my own company in aerospace, this is weeding out people who should not be trusted with important decisions, ever.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:44 PM

15. That would be a poetic outcome. Here's hoping. nt

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:36 PM

3. Will they get a general discharge?

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Response to Texin (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:38 PM

5. At this point it seems most are getting administrative-

I’m guessing the senior officials who refuse are most in danger of other than honorable.

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Response to AkFemDem (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:56 PM

17. They will likely lose their retirement

A Battalion Commander is an O5 with probably 16-20 years. If they are being administratively seperated, some could lose their retirement if they are under 18 years service. 18-20 it's up to Sec Army whether they do or not.

Also if you got selected for BN CDR your odds of getting promoted to Colonel were pretty darn high which means those two idiots just threw away literally millions long term even if they can retire as an O5.

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Response to Texin (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:38 PM

6. certainly should be less than honorable

for disobeying a direct order

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:37 PM

4. Anyone who has served knows that..

A certain % of people, especially lower ranking enlisted personnel, are seeking rapid discharge at any given time. I suspect a good % of the number who have refused and are not seeking exemptions, fall into the category. In other words- mandatory vax is an easy way out of a contract they no longer want.

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Response to AkFemDem (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:51 PM

10. also some people are in the armed services because

it was that or prison (Track or Tag from Wassilla?). So getting booted out like this might be a good way to skirt what you didin't want in the 1st place and avoid going to prison. Who knows if that is true or not but a possibility.

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Response to AkFemDem (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:54 PM

16. One caveat

If any of them received a bonus for enlisting or re-enlisting, they'll have to pay it back!!!

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:39 PM

7. Buh-buy s**t birds!

Given they are probably right-wing Talabangelecals, I'm sure they're subordinates won't miss them.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:50 PM

9. More than 100 Marines kicked out of the service for refusing Covid vaccine

The Marine Corps has booted 103 of its members for refusing the Covid vaccine, the service announced on Thursday, even as all the military branches report that a vast majority of troops have gotten the shots.

The news comes the same day the Army announced that it has relieved six leaders — including two commanding officers — over the issue, and that almost 4,000 active-duty soldiers have refused the vaccine.

The two Army officers, both of whom commanded active-duty battalions, join Navy Cmdr. Lucian Kins, the executive officer of the destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill, who was relieved this month, as the highest-ranking officers to be punished for defying the order.

The Army would not identify the two officers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-than-100-marines-kicked-out-of-the-service-for-refusing-covid-vaccine/ar-AART0O7

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:54 PM

11. I never thought I'd be one of those "The Army wasn't like this when I was in!" types.

But seriously.

When I was in, I never would have dreamed of disobeying a vaccine order. We were told to get vaccinated and we got vaccinated. Even the dim bulbs among us understood the fundamental fact that vaccines prevent disease and the spread of disease.

The anti-vaxxers have done their squalid work well…

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Response to Aristus (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:09 PM

13. for sure, my vaccine passport of old

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Response to HAB911 (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:25 PM

14. Mine's around somewhere.

Never had it scanned.

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Response to HAB911 (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:05 PM

18. I never understood why they have yet to repurpose the latest version of that

for the COVID-19 vaccines. I have newer one of those for when I traveled to Egypt in 1992 (needed yellow fever, typhoid, tetanus and polio boosters, etc) and I found that some countries like Israel, have been using their version of that form for the COVID-19 vaccination records.



I know almost a century ago, the original intent of that form was aimed at yellow fever vaccinations (and it was developed by W.H.O. and internationally recognized), but travelers have basically put all the other vaccines on there too.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 06:15 PM

19. So why is the Navy



Dragging it's feet?

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Thu Dec 16, 2021, 07:35 PM

20. My, How Times Have Changed

When I served they just marched us down to some building in basic training and gave us shots in both arms and then marched us back to our barracks. There was one option - you marched as a unit and received your shots - something like 8-10 of them, thank you.

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