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HAB911

(8,983 posts)
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:31 PM Dec 2021

Army vax deadline: 2 battalion commanders relieved, discharges begin January, 98% comply

Source: Military Times

The Army’s deadline for active duty troops to be vaccinated against COVID-19 passed Wednesday, and Army officials offered a snapshot of the service’s data and next steps in a Thursday morning release.

The vast majority of the Army’s approximately 485,900 active duty soldiers have complied with the Pentagon’s vaccine requirement, the release said — 96% of troops are fully vaccinated, and an additional 2% have received at least one dose.

Only 3,864 soldiers have “refused the vaccination order without a pending or approved exemption,” the release said. That includes two battalion commanders and an additional four “leaders” who have been relieved, but the release didn’t specify the rank or echelon of the latter four.

In January, commanders will begin involuntarily discharging soldiers who have refused the shot. Most of them — 2,767 — have already received a general officer memorandum of reprimand, an adverse administrative action that could end their careers even if they now opt to get the shot.

Read more: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/12/16/army-vax-deadline-2-battalion-commanders-relieved-discharges-begin-january-98-comply/



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Army vax deadline: 2 battalion commanders relieved, discharges begin January, 98% comply (Original Post) HAB911 Dec 2021 OP
They showed us. pwb Dec 2021 #1
This has the side benefit of weeding out many of the kooks and fascists in the forces. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #2
Silver linings HAB911 Dec 2021 #8
Agree 100% Johnny2X2X Dec 2021 #12
That would be a poetic outcome. Here's hoping. nt crickets Dec 2021 #15
Will they get a general discharge? Texin Dec 2021 #3
At this point it seems most are getting administrative- AkFemDem Dec 2021 #5
They will likely lose their retirement qazplm135 Dec 2021 #17
certainly should be less than honorable HAB911 Dec 2021 #6
Anyone who has served knows that.. AkFemDem Dec 2021 #4
also some people are in the armed services because sdfernando Dec 2021 #10
One caveat atreides1 Dec 2021 #16
Buh-buy s**t birds! Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #7
More than 100 Marines kicked out of the service for refusing Covid vaccine Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 #9
I never thought I'd be one of those "The Army wasn't like this when I was in!" types. Aristus Dec 2021 #11
for sure, my vaccine passport of old HAB911 Dec 2021 #13
Mine's around somewhere. Aristus Dec 2021 #14
I never understood why they have yet to repurpose the latest version of that BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #18
So why is the Navy orangecrush Dec 2021 #19
My, How Times Have Changed DallasNE Dec 2021 #20

Johnny2X2X

(19,414 posts)
12. Agree 100%
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:07 PM
Dec 2021

Vaccine mandates weed out soldiers who don't care about their fellow soldiers. It weeds out nurses who don't follow science. It weeds out police officers who can't be trusted with the public good.

All across the country, these firings are making companies stronger. Across the board, even my own company in aerospace, this is weeding out people who should not be trusted with important decisions, ever.

AkFemDem

(1,836 posts)
5. At this point it seems most are getting administrative-
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:38 PM
Dec 2021

I’m guessing the senior officials who refuse are most in danger of other than honorable.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
17. They will likely lose their retirement
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:56 PM
Dec 2021

A Battalion Commander is an O5 with probably 16-20 years. If they are being administratively seperated, some could lose their retirement if they are under 18 years service. 18-20 it's up to Sec Army whether they do or not.

Also if you got selected for BN CDR your odds of getting promoted to Colonel were pretty darn high which means those two idiots just threw away literally millions long term even if they can retire as an O5.

AkFemDem

(1,836 posts)
4. Anyone who has served knows that..
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:37 PM
Dec 2021

A certain % of people, especially lower ranking enlisted personnel, are seeking rapid discharge at any given time. I suspect a good % of the number who have refused and are not seeking exemptions, fall into the category. In other words- mandatory vax is an easy way out of a contract they no longer want.

sdfernando

(4,974 posts)
10. also some people are in the armed services because
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:51 PM
Dec 2021

it was that or prison (Track or Tag from Wassilla?). So getting booted out like this might be a good way to skirt what you didin't want in the 1st place and avoid going to prison. Who knows if that is true or not but a possibility.

atreides1

(16,136 posts)
16. One caveat
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:54 PM
Dec 2021

If any of them received a bonus for enlisting or re-enlisting, they'll have to pay it back!!!

Crowman2009

(2,513 posts)
7. Buh-buy s**t birds!
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:39 PM
Dec 2021

Given they are probably right-wing Talabangelecals, I'm sure they're subordinates won't miss them.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,684 posts)
9. More than 100 Marines kicked out of the service for refusing Covid vaccine
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:50 PM
Dec 2021

The Marine Corps has booted 103 of its members for refusing the Covid vaccine, the service announced on Thursday, even as all the military branches report that a vast majority of troops have gotten the shots.

The news comes the same day the Army announced that it has relieved six leaders — including two commanding officers — over the issue, and that almost 4,000 active-duty soldiers have refused the vaccine.

The two Army officers, both of whom commanded active-duty battalions, join Navy Cmdr. Lucian Kins, the executive officer of the destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill, who was relieved this month, as the highest-ranking officers to be punished for defying the order.

The Army would not identify the two officers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-than-100-marines-kicked-out-of-the-service-for-refusing-covid-vaccine/ar-AART0O7

Aristus

(66,588 posts)
11. I never thought I'd be one of those "The Army wasn't like this when I was in!" types.
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:54 PM
Dec 2021

But seriously.

When I was in, I never would have dreamed of disobeying a vaccine order. We were told to get vaccinated and we got vaccinated. Even the dim bulbs among us understood the fundamental fact that vaccines prevent disease and the spread of disease.

The anti-vaxxers have done their squalid work well…

BumRushDaShow

(130,504 posts)
18. I never understood why they have yet to repurpose the latest version of that
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 04:05 PM
Dec 2021

for the COVID-19 vaccines. I have newer one of those for when I traveled to Egypt in 1992 (needed yellow fever, typhoid, tetanus and polio boosters, etc) and I found that some countries like Israel, have been using their version of that form for the COVID-19 vaccination records.



I know almost a century ago, the original intent of that form was aimed at yellow fever vaccinations (and it was developed by W.H.O. and internationally recognized), but travelers have basically put all the other vaccines on there too.

DallasNE

(7,405 posts)
20. My, How Times Have Changed
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 08:35 PM
Dec 2021

When I served they just marched us down to some building in basic training and gave us shots in both arms and then marched us back to our barracks. There was one option - you marched as a unit and received your shots - something like 8-10 of them, thank you.

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