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ripcord

(5,553 posts)
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:45 AM Dec 2021

Warrant issued for Alec Baldwin's cellphone after shooting on 'Rust' set

Source: NBC News

A search warrant was issued for actor Alec Baldwin's cellphone Thursday, nearly two months after a shooting on the New Mexico set of "Rust" killed the film's cinematographer and injured its director, court documents show.

In an affidavit filed in Santa Fe Magistrate Court, authorities asked for the iPhone "due to conversations between affiant and Alec Baldwin being conducted through 'iMessages.'"

The affiant is identified as a violent crimes detective with the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Department. The documents give no further details about the conversations.

"We proactively requested that the authorities obtain a warrant so that we could take steps to protect Mr. Baldwin’s family and personal information that is clearly unrelated to the investigation," Dyer said in a statement. "A phone contains a person’s entire life, and personal information needs to be protected. While they evaluate the phone information, we hope that the authorities continue to focus on how the live rounds got on the set in the first place."

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/warrant-issued-alec-baldwins-cell-phone-shooting-rust-set-rcna9084



I wonder what they are looking for.
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Warrant issued for Alec Baldwin's cellphone after shooting on 'Rust' set (Original Post) ripcord Dec 2021 OP
Baldwin really should have just kept his mouth shut ... SarcasticSatyr Dec 2021 #1
he has always been a bit arrogant Skittles Dec 2021 #2
What does it have to do with interview? LisaL Dec 2021 #3
Anything he said in the interview that differs from his texts, will be used against him ... SarcasticSatyr Dec 2021 #4
I'm sure that was the advice he got. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #5
Any criminal defense attorney would have NOT recommended the interview. no_hypocrisy Dec 2021 #6
I just thought he wanted to go on the record badly and the interview seemed to him to be the best CTyankee Dec 2021 #8
The gun was real jmowreader Dec 2021 #21
Ah, now I get it. So the live ammo was brought there by someone. CTyankee Dec 2021 #22
This has also been explained jmowreader Dec 2021 #23
The armorer was working as a prop assistant at the time of the shooting ripcord Dec 2021 #24
My daughter works in the business (at Warner Brothers in LA) and her first reaction to this event CTyankee Dec 2021 #25
See how easy it is to get someone's phone. gab13by13 Dec 2021 #7
It could be related to his role as a producer ripcord Dec 2021 #9
Pure speculation on my part, however, since they have the complete message thread between cayugafalls Dec 2021 #10
Only one issue Roy Rolling Dec 2021 #11
Does New Mexico law prohibit live rounds from being in certain places like a movie set? Kaleva Dec 2021 #12
New Mexico Ptah Dec 2021 #13
Thanks! I'll correct my post. Kaleva Dec 2021 #15
Law and Places of Business Roy Rolling Dec 2021 #17
Breaking a union rules isn't the same as breaking a law. Kaleva Dec 2021 #18
I agree strongly. Somebody brought the ammo. CTyankee Dec 2021 #16
And why was armorer not allowed on the set? marshall Dec 2021 #19
Why was the armorer working as a prop assistant when there was a gun on the set? nt ripcord Dec 2021 #20
and we can't get dumps phone and the traitor phones why?!? onecaliberal Dec 2021 #14

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
3. What does it have to do with interview?
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:09 AM
Dec 2021

Affidavit to get the search warrant doesn't mention anything about his interview. Not that giving an interview was a good idea.

SarcasticSatyr

(1,183 posts)
4. Anything he said in the interview that differs from his texts, will be used against him ...
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:31 AM
Dec 2021

He says he never pulled the trigger, what if his text messages say something else, He never should have said anything ...

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
5. I'm sure that was the advice he got.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:49 AM
Dec 2021

Which he was obviously free to ignore.

The Stephanopoulos interview is probably what’s behind this. He was deflecting all over the place.
“Someone’s to blame but it’s not me.”

no_hypocrisy

(46,234 posts)
6. Any criminal defense attorney would have NOT recommended the interview.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:20 AM
Dec 2021

Not under oath and on record. And will be used against him by prosecutors if necessary.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. I just thought he wanted to go on the record badly and the interview seemed to him to be the best
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:11 PM
Dec 2021

way to go at the time. The question to everyone should be "how did live ammunition EVER appear on a movie set?" Somebody must have brought it there on their own. WHO would do that and WHY?
That's what investigators must be looking at. The other question is how did live ammo go off if the "gun" was not real?

jmowreader

(50,567 posts)
21. The gun was real
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:13 PM
Dec 2021

The crew was taking the prop guns to a pistol range and firing live ammo through them.

All movies that use guns are required to have a gun wrangler. The big question here is why the gun wrangler didn’t unload the gun and reload it with filming ammunition before handing it to Baldwin.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
22. Ah, now I get it. So the live ammo was brought there by someone.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 05:24 PM
Dec 2021

I'm guessing that the producers didn't know about the live ammo being even THERE. If the gun wrangler didn't know about the live ammo, he/she didn't know it was even a possibility and hence, did not check it. Of course, it should have been checked anyway because you just never can tell what might happen when dealing with guns.

But, even so, how is it that Baldwin didn't know to check it himself?

jmowreader

(50,567 posts)
23. This has also been explained
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 07:52 PM
Dec 2021

When the armorer hands an actor a gun, the actor is not allowed to do anything but act. If the actor opens the weapon to check it for live ammunition, the gun is considered not-safe, and it must be handed back to the armorer for that person’s approval.

More fun: the gun in question was a single-action revolver. To check such a gun for live vs filming ammo you have to remove the rounds one-by-one. If you have an automatic pistol doing that’s no problem; hit the magazine catch to drop the mag, rack the slide and inspect the barrel to ensure there’s not one in the chamber, and inspect the ammo in the magazine. But on SA revolvers, things are a bit different. The cylinder - the part on the gun you load - doesn’t swing out like it does on a double-action. Instead, there’s a little door behind the cylinder. You have to rotate the cylinder until the cartridge will come out and push on an extractor rod to push it out…for every cartridge in the pistol. Baldwin might not even know how to do it, and he might not be able to tell the difference between a live round and a filming round. They hired this guy because he speaks well and looks good, not because he knows anything about firearms.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
24. The armorer was working as a prop assistant at the time of the shooting
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 09:06 PM
Dec 2021

That is going to cost the producers, why have an armorer if they aren't going to be on set when firearms are in use?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. My daughter works in the business (at Warner Brothers in LA) and her first reaction to this event
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 09:51 PM
Dec 2021

was how cheap the producers were. I found that to be an interesting statement.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
9. It could be related to his role as a producer
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:21 PM
Dec 2021

They may want to know why the armorer was working as a prop assistant at the time of the shooting instead of being on the set when a firearm was being used.

cayugafalls

(5,646 posts)
10. Pure speculation on my part, however, since they have the complete message thread between
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:20 PM
Dec 2021

affiant and Alex (affiant's phone would have the back and forth), there must have been something in the text messages from Alex that hinted at other discussions/pictures/emails/gpsdata with others regarding the event.

That would be the only reason needed to search the phone.

The main text message thread is not the issue here, imnsho as a techy.

Roy Rolling

(6,941 posts)
11. Only one issue
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:51 PM
Dec 2021

Why was there a live round on a movie set? Did Alec know, and did he have a text conversation with anybody mentioning it. That’s my interest if I’m a prosecutor.

Everything else is secondary.

(From a person with over 300 movie/TV projects, I know the process)

Kaleva

(36,361 posts)
12. Does New Mexico law prohibit live rounds from being in certain places like a movie set?
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:03 PM
Dec 2021

Last edited Fri Dec 17, 2021, 08:22 PM - Edit history (1)

If there is no such law, then I fail to see why a prosecutor would be interested in such.

Roy Rolling

(6,941 posts)
17. Law and Places of Business
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:27 PM
Dec 2021

Movie sets are private companies, the union workplace rules and producer rules prevent the carry of firearms, ammunition, and other items in the workplace.

Live ammunition in the workplace is against company rules, regardless of whether New Mexico law backs the regulation.

Which is why it’s such a key point in the investigation—a rule hammered in the head of every employee almost daily would be so blatantly broken.

Who brought the bullet?

Kaleva

(36,361 posts)
18. Breaking a union rules isn't the same as breaking a law.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 07:35 PM
Dec 2021

Prosecutors don't enforce union rules.


Your comment:

"the union workplace rules and producer rules prevent the carry of firearms, ammunition, and other items in the workplace."

What do the company rules and union rules say about safely handling a gun? Do they require all who handle a gun to first attend and complete a firearm safety course? Or do they not give a shit?

marshall

(6,665 posts)
19. And why was armorer not allowed on the set?
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 11:33 AM
Dec 2021

She reports that her safety protocols were overruled (by whom?) and furthermore that she was not allowed on the set at the time of the incident, ostensibly because of Covid restrictions. Where did those decisions come from?

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
20. Why was the armorer working as a prop assistant when there was a gun on the set? nt
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 11:48 AM
Dec 2021

Everyone says the armorer was responsible for the gun why was she not there when a gun was being used?

onecaliberal

(32,931 posts)
14. and we can't get dumps phone and the traitor phones why?!?
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:21 PM
Dec 2021

When they're going after dems it sure as fuck doesn't take any time to do anything.

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