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demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 06:02 PM Jan 2022

Harris was inside DNC on Jan. 6 when pipe bomb was discovered outside

Source: Politico

Then-Vice President-elect Kamala Harris was inside Democratic National Committee headquarters on Jan. 6, 2021, when a pipe bomb was discovered outside the building, according to four people familiar with her movements that day.

Capitol Police began investigating the pipe bomb at 1:07 p.m., according to an official Capitol Police timeline of events obtained by POLITICO. The timeline says that Capitol Police and the Secret Service evacuated an unnamed “protectee” at approximately 1:14 p.m, seven minutes later. The four people, among them a White House official and a former law enforcement official, confirmed that Harris was the Secret Service protectee identified in the timeline, which has circulated on Capitol Hill.

Harris’ presence inside the building while a bomb was right outside raises sobering questions about her security that day. It also raises the chilling prospect that the riots could have been far more destructive than they already were, with the incoming Vice President's life directly endangered. Federal law enforcement officials have faced harsh criticism for failing to anticipate the chaotic scene around the Electoral College certification one year ago, despite receiving a host of warnings about possible chaos.

The DNC bomb threat was neutralized at 4:36 p.m., according to the timeline. Another pipe bomb discovered at the RNC was neutralized at 3:33 p.m. No suspects have been arrested so far in relation to the bombs.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/06/harris-was-inside-dnc-on-jan-6-when-pipe-bomb-was-discovered-outside-526695

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Harris was inside DNC on Jan. 6 when pipe bomb was discovered outside (Original Post) demmiblue Jan 2022 OP
Which begs the question if someone KNEW VP-elect Harris' whereabouts and she was targeted bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #1
Remember this was before the inauguration onetexan Jan 2022 #15
I just doubt this was a rogue or low level operation bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #16
oh i'm fairly confident it was planned and targeted. onetexan Jan 2022 #18
the hounds were called off bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #19
Was it chance? Or was it an assassination attempt? NurseJackie Jan 2022 #2
The devices were placed at the DNC and RNC the night before and used a timer. PoliticAverse Jan 2022 #3
Thanks for the info. NurseJackie Jan 2022 #5
How Much Do We Really Know About These Bombs And..... global1 Jan 2022 #4
Law enforcement doesn't usually tell the public what they know about an incident before an arrest PoliticAverse Jan 2022 #6
I remember last year when a much longer video was posted on DU from Youtube (just found it from FBI) BumRushDaShow Jan 2022 #7
Rachel Maddow and others imavoter Jan 2022 #9
And how did they learn of the bombs? Was there a tipster? Liberty Belle Jan 2022 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #23
long version of videos Historic NY Jan 2022 #8
They sure could have used some random undercover patrols with bomb-sniffing dogs that night bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #24
MY GOD!! riversedge Jan 2022 #12
Liz Cheney asked publicly, 'What was he doing during those three hours?' bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #20
Nailed it. bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #21
I've wondered if 1 was stronger than the other or if they were equally powerful. oldsoftie Jan 2022 #14
What caught my attention was the final clip where he/she went around a corner bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #17
What are they implying? Yandex Jan 2022 #22
What would you infer? Is it a complicated connection? ancianita Jan 2022 #25
IDK! n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #26

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
1. Which begs the question if someone KNEW VP-elect Harris' whereabouts and she was targeted
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 06:05 PM
Jan 2022

Now I don't wonder they're being tight-lipped about this. They not only need to know who placed the bombs, but who caused them to be placed, and if information leaked as to her schedule. This is 2 levels more serious now.

onetexan

(13,039 posts)
15. Remember this was before the inauguration
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:34 AM
Jan 2022

And im not sure when President Biden (then not yet POTUS) decided to switch out the SS. From what i recall many SS members were loyal to the Con. I wld not be surprised the security details of Kamala's whereabouts were leaked to the traitors.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
16. I just doubt this was a rogue or low level operation
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:51 AM
Jan 2022

It was timed, and now the question is appropriate, was it targeted. Hmmm.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. The devices were placed at the DNC and RNC the night before and used a timer.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 06:20 PM
Jan 2022

The device at the DNC was placed outside near a park bench. Clearly not an assassination attempt , it appears to have been a terror/diversion attempt.

These devices were placed the evening before the Capitol riots — between 7:30pm and 8:30pm.

One device was placed in an alley behind the RNC, located at 310 First Street, Southeast.

The other was placed next to a park bench near the DNC, located at 430 South Capitol Street, Southeast, #3.


From: https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/wfo-pipebomb-investigation-030921.mp4/view

global1

(25,242 posts)
4. How Much Do We Really Know About These Bombs And.....
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 06:23 PM
Jan 2022

why haven't we heard more about them in the past year.

I luckily caught a video clip on on of the cable news shows today that briefly showed the person that planted the bombs. I guess that they got video from security cameras in the area where these were placed.

I would like to see all the video that they captured of the planting of these devices and the person that did the planting.

Now - is it said anywhere as to how powerful these devices were? Did they in fact detonate these devices or how did they diffuse them?

How much investigational work has gone into trying to determine who the bomber was?

I know that they have some video - but were they able to capture additional video from other area security cameras in the immediate area? Could they have actually followed this person - to a car or getaway vehicle? Could they have determined if this person had additional help? - like an accomplice that came along with them?

Have they analyzed the components of these bomb devices - to determine where the components came from? - where they might have been purchased?

Did these devices have similar characteristics of other bombs they might have encountered in the past?

All I'm saying here is that this seems like an important piece of information - given what went on at the Capitol and now the suspicions that all of this was pre-planned.

Why haven't we heard more about these bombs and what they are doing to determine where they came from and who placed them?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. Law enforcement doesn't usually tell the public what they know about an incident before an arrest
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 06:31 PM
Jan 2022

is made. You don't want to tip off the people responsible.

If you want to know more about the devices this article has a picture and more details:

https://www.wamc.org/2021-04-14/what-we-know-about-the-suspect-who-planted-bombs-before-the-capitol-riot

The explosive devices the suspect made were rather generic: simple bombs made from 1-by-8-inch galvanized steel pipes — the kind plumbers use — with plastic kitchen timers mounted on top, the ones you spin around to set. The FBI said the explosive inside was homemade black powder, which can be a mix of just about anything that will ignite; typically it includes saltpeter, sulfur and gunpowder.

"What I think would be accurate to say, given the information we have, is this is a very hazardous device that could kill people," said Barry Black, a retired FBI special agent and master bomb technician who helped investigate the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

If you look at the picture it appears to use a 60-minute kitchen timer. That would imply a maximum of 60 minutes from placement to detonation time.

The fact that the bomber didn't even put the device in a paper bag to hide it makes it look like it was designed to be found and provoke a large police response the next day.

Also see DU thread: https://democraticunderground.com/100216220424


BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
7. I remember last year when a much longer video was posted on DU from Youtube (just found it from FBI)
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 06:52 PM
Jan 2022

that included an animation of the actual convoluted "route" of the person who did the planting -



The page with the above and the individual video clips is here - https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/washingtondc/news/press-releases/fbi-washington-field-office-releases-video-and-additional-information-regarding-the-pipe-bomb-investigation-090821

Whoever did it is still at large (am guessing that the security cameras couldn't clearly capture the face to aid in an ID and it's possible that if they were able to find the "witnesses" - e.g., one who was walking a dog I think in the neighborhood, that the person probably had no good info to provide).

Geez... this happened just over a year ago and feels like only a couple months.

imavoter

(646 posts)
9. Rachel Maddow and others
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 08:19 PM
Jan 2022

covered this last year.
I don't have MSNBC now, but I did last year.
She would even update that there were still no suspects.

Response to global1 (Reply #4)

Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #10)

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
12. MY GOD!!
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 09:40 PM
Jan 2022



............Capitol Police began investigating the pipe bomb at 1:07 p.m., according to an official Capitol Police timeline of events obtained by POLITICO. The timeline says that Capitol Police and the Secret Service evacuated an unnamed “protectee” at approximately 1:14 p.m, seven minutes later. The four people, among them a White House official and a former law enforcement official, confirmed that Harris was the Secret Service protectee identified in the timeline, which has circulated on Capitol Hill. .................................

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/06/harris-was-inside-dnc-on-jan-6-when-pipe-bomb-was-discovered-outside-526695

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
13. Liz Cheney asked publicly, 'What was he doing during those three hours?'
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 08:52 AM
Jan 2022

Watching TV from all reports. What was he waiting for?

Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #13)

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
14. I've wondered if 1 was stronger than the other or if they were equally powerful.
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jan 2022

The person, to me, appears to be walking with a female gait. Yes, most men & women walk differently
Since they were planted at BOTH offices, there may be no connection to the attack later that day.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
17. What caught my attention was the final clip where he/she went around a corner
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:54 AM
Jan 2022

Really leaned into it, almost like an ice skater would. Not a stroll in the park.

ancianita

(36,048 posts)
25. What would you infer? Is it a complicated connection?
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:50 PM
Jan 2022

What was the situation at the time? And why would it matter?

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