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greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:38 PM Jan 2022

Chicago Public Schools students to return to classrooms Wednesday after CTU suspends work action

Source: Chicago Sun-Times

The Chicago Teachers Union’s governing body has voted to suspend its labor action and return to in-person work Tuesday, ending a bitter dispute with Chicago Public Schools and setting up students to return to classrooms Wednesday for the first time in a week.

“Today’s negotiations were productive,” Mayor Lori Lightfoot said in a statement ahead of the vote. “We are waiting to hear back from the CTU. We will update parents, students and members of the public as soon as we are able.”

The union’s 700-member house of delegates convened to discuss the school district’s offer, which appeared to make very few compromises. The union’s delegates voted 389 to 226 in favor of suspending the work action and returning Tuesday. The CTU’s 25,000 members are expected to vote later in the week on whether to approve the potential agreement.

Earlier Monday, Lightfoot and CPS CEO Pedro Martinez said in separate interviews with local and national news outlets that they felt “cautiously optimistic” they could land a deal.

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Read more: https://chicago.suntimes.com/education/2022/1/10/22877240/ctu-teachers-union-delegates-cps-public-schools-proposal-contract-in-person-schooling



CTU folds.
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Chicago Public Schools students to return to classrooms Wednesday after CTU suspends work action (Original Post) greenjar_01 Jan 2022 OP
Biden wanted the schools open. former9thward Jan 2022 #1
This was just horrific for the kids and the parents. mucifer Jan 2022 #2
Yes greenjar_01 Jan 2022 #3
Hard for kids and parents, but my heart goes out to public school teachers everywhere.. mia Jan 2022 #5
IS IT SAFE??? BigmanPigman Jan 2022 #4
No one cares if it's safe. Remember, it's all about the parents. AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #7
We teachers know the real story. BigmanPigman Jan 2022 #10
Hmmmm Gilbert Moore Jan 2022 #6
That's all the more reason for M4A AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #8
M4A ? Gilbert Moore Jan 2022 #14
When I hear things I this, I remember this sign at a School Board Meeting AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #9
Do you recall when that was? ancianita Jan 2022 #34
September some time. Photo is from the Salt Lake Tribune AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #37
Thank you. It was a good reminder of my Chicago time. Parents mean well, but they must learn ancianita Jan 2022 #39
Somewhere, somebody has crunched the numbers and determined that X dead kids is acceptable Orrex Jan 2022 #11
Are there any stats on how many kids have died from going to school Yandex Jan 2022 #13
I'll check. What's an acceptable number for you? Orrex Jan 2022 #16
I would look for stats in comparison to other causes of death for children Yandex Jan 2022 #18
Frankly, zero. Orrex Jan 2022 #19
No way Yandex Jan 2022 #20
Oh? I look forward to reviewing the data that you provide. Orrex Jan 2022 #23
How much do you need? Tell me when you've had enough Yandex Jan 2022 #25
Doesn't appear that any of those identifies remote learning as the cause Orrex Jan 2022 #35
lol nice try n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #36
That's the sound of you admitting that you can't support your own argument. Orrex Jan 2022 #38
Nope, again, nice try. n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #40
Lol, look for stats from causes of death that are "infectious" and can spread to the public, right? ancianita Jan 2022 #24
I like how it sounds Yandex Jan 2022 #26
Oh. Okay. ancianita Jan 2022 #28
Nice find n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #31
Anything else? n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #27
Whattaya got? ancianita Jan 2022 #29
IDK You? n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #30
IDK, You?? n/t ancianita Jan 2022 #32
😉 Yandex Jan 2022 #33
The Teacher's Union Lost Me ... PBC_Democrat Jan 2022 #12
It's An Accurate Description, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2022 #15
Yes, that, and they speak from experience. n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #21
Lightfoot has COVID-19 Mrsfiddlegirl Jan 2022 #17
Whaaaaat?! Chicago teachers must teach when they have the disease? n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #22

former9thward

(31,953 posts)
1. Biden wanted the schools open.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:51 PM
Jan 2022

Asked about the Chicago schools stalemate at a briefing Monday, President Joe Biden’s press secretary, Jen Psaki, said the White House is in regular touch with the mayor and Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker over the situation.

“We have been very clear. … We want to see schools open,” Psaki said.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-public-schools-canceled-monday-20220110-d6vdvra3jfcxxmid55jran6mlq-story.html

mia

(8,360 posts)
5. Hard for kids and parents, but my heart goes out to public school teachers everywhere..
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:41 PM
Jan 2022

I was one of them for most of my life. I can imagine how they are feeling. If I were still working, I would be preparing my will and end of life directives.

BigmanPigman

(51,573 posts)
4. IS IT SAFE???
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:39 PM
Jan 2022

Is it safe? Is it safe? Is it safe?

I sound like Dustin Hoffman in The Marathon Man but...is it safe?

As a former teacher in 1st grade in one of the top 10 largest school districts in the US I know that the teachers' and students' health and safety come AFTER the school districts' financial situation and the parents who want free babysitting services and food programs. School districts get money from the state for each student per day, that is why there are "learning contracts" for kids who miss school for over 5 days. The district receives the $$$ per kid from the state, nothing more. I wrote up a zillion learning contracts, I know what their priorities are. I also was a union rep at my school site and I know that teachers want what is best for the kids and often put their own health and safety last. Teachers want kids to succeed but we don't want to risk our health doing so.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,646 posts)
7. No one cares if it's safe. Remember, it's all about the parents.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:48 PM
Jan 2022

They need their free, tax supported babysitters in Chicago. And I'm a teacher saying that.

BigmanPigman

(51,573 posts)
10. We teachers know the real story.
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 12:00 AM
Jan 2022

A lot of people don't. We must never stop educating the public and standing up for teachers. If I weren't a teacher, I wouldn't have a clue.

Gilbert Moore

(217 posts)
6. Hmmmm
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:41 PM
Jan 2022

Don't know if I would want to start a work action that could lead to a lock out that could possibly affect my health insurance.

ancianita

(35,988 posts)
34. Do you recall when that was?
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:04 PM
Jan 2022

From my years as a Chicago teacher, I recall the tensions between the business community as shown by its board members.

Signage like that looks astroturfy, and I've seen it used by business and corporate interests to fight the CTU.
Signage like that gets passed out whenever there's a chance at a board meeting for corporate media to write up something that stigmatizes teachers as part of the general public school "problem." The demand for "choice," the nationwide chant against public schools, gets presented to parents as their main argument, and they show up with this managed perception that they don't have any choices, as if they are being shortchanged by a "system" of deep state professionals.

CTU has been besieged by former corporate boards of education and their general superintendents during the 35 years I worked in city high schools. And Arnie Duncan was one of them, Democrat or not. He's running for mayor, so don't be surprised if this is right up his alley to come in and "promise choice" for Chicago parents.

ancianita

(35,988 posts)
39. Thank you. It was a good reminder of my Chicago time. Parents mean well, but they must learn
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:46 AM
Jan 2022

that teaching professionals are parents, too, trustworthy scholars of their communities with a great deal of expertise in administering schools (they know education history, school law, funding, budgeting, negotiating) not just about their commitment to being in classrooms to fire up curiosity and use structured, sequential thinking, writing and speaking to help kids learn about themselves, each other, moving outward to the neighborhood, state, nation and world.

Orrex

(63,179 posts)
16. I'll check. What's an acceptable number for you?
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 04:21 PM
Jan 2022

And how much collateral damage, in terms of sickened family members, etc., is acceptable?

 

Yandex

(273 posts)
18. I would look for stats in comparison to other causes of death for children
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 06:17 PM
Jan 2022

What number is acceptable to you?

Orrex

(63,179 posts)
19. Frankly, zero.
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:07 PM
Jan 2022

And that number could have been achieved--at least close to it in school-originated cases--by a serious lockdown with actual mandates, instead of the catastrophically balkanized "do what thou wilt" policies that we've seen varying in every city, county, and state.

For that matter, deaths shouldn't even be the litmus test, nor should we compare such deaths to other historical causes of fatality. This is a new pandemic that a failed president did nothing to rein in, while a good president's efforts are being hobbled by agenda-driven KKKonservative judges.


And on top of that, the endless cries of "we must reopen the schools because of reasons" has drowned out any real expectation of safe practice.

 

Yandex

(273 posts)
20. No way
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:47 AM
Jan 2022

The isolation for some kids was catastrophic. child suicides and mental health problems went way up

Orrex

(63,179 posts)
23. Oh? I look forward to reviewing the data that you provide.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 09:37 AM
Jan 2022

Last edited Wed Jan 12, 2022, 03:08 PM - Edit history (1)

And "I would look for stats in comparison to other causes of [ mental health issues ] for children."

Your claim--if true--also seems to overlook the very real strain on teachers, who are quitting in droves:

https://wpst.com/why-are-pennsylvania-teachers-quitting-at-such-an-alarming-rate/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/04/teachers-quitting-jobs-covid-record-numbers
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/teachers-quitting-covid
https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2021/10/18/teachers-resign-pandemic/ (paywall)
https://www.kwch.com/2021/12/07/pandemic-related-stress-causing-educators-walk-away/
https://www.starnewsonline.com/story/news/2021/11/08/new-hanover-county-teachers-quitting-due-covid-19-burnout/6051795001/

And it equally ignores the very real possibility of contagion between kids forcibly exposed to covid at school and vulnerable family members.


But sure. Let's jam kids into overcrowded school rooms with sick teachers and/or poorly qualified substitutes, where masks are optional, social distancing is not enforced, and vaccines are not mandated. What the fuck could possibly go wrong?

Orrex

(63,179 posts)
35. Doesn't appear that any of those identifies remote learning as the cause
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:58 AM
Jan 2022

The three that I am able to view--without subscription--assert a correlation between the pandemic and increased suicide rates, but scant evidence of causation is offered. In fact, one article blames social media; perhaps we should ban children from the internet in your view? And that same article cites percentages but doesn't give actual numbers: attempted suicide rose 51% in girls? Does that mean that last year 20 girls tried and this year 31 tried? Is that nationwide? Statewide? In one county? In one school? The numbers are essential.

You are assuming your conclusion and ignoring other likely factors. How is teen depression affected by the covid-related death of one or more friends or family members? How is teen depression affected by forcible relocation following the loss of the parents' income and subsequent inability to pay rent? How is teen depression affected by the massive reduction/alteration in communal activities such as concerts, sporting events and the like?

For that matter, maybe kids are stressed out by the realization that ~30% of the population is so ignorant and stubborn that they'll happily risk others' lives simply to preserve their own "freedom" not to endure a cloth square on their face? That last factor is, incidentally, a key reason why my older son has refused to go back to in-person learning, the knowledge that people are assholes and that they'll undeniably subvert whatever tepid "mask mandate" the schools try to impose.

ancianita

(35,988 posts)
24. Lol, look for stats from causes of death that are "infectious" and can spread to the public, right?
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:16 PM
Jan 2022

By the way, I'm curious. Why is your name Yandex?

Yandex is the name of the leading Russian search engine, which includes satellite map apps, and info similar to Google, but you didn't name yourself Google.

But seriously, how did you decide on your name?

ancianita

(35,988 posts)
28. Oh. Okay.
Sat Jan 15, 2022, 10:33 PM
Jan 2022

Last edited Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:06 PM - Edit history (2)

Mine? Look it up in Google Translate.

You might be interested in your random name choice. Especially since it's a Russian one. You can find it here.

Yandex N.V. (/ˈjʌndɛks/; Russian: Яндекс ) is a multinational corporation primarily for Russian and Russian-language users,[5] providing 70 Internet-related products and services, including transportation, search and information services, e-commerce, navigation, mobile applications, and online advertising.[6][3][clarification needed]

The firm is registered in Schiphol, the Netherlands as a naamloze vennootschap (Dutch public limited company),[7] but the company founders and most of the team members are located in Russia. It primarily serves audiences in Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States, and also has 30 offices worldwide.[8][9]

The firm is the largest technology company in Russia[10] and the second largest search engine on the Internet in Russian, with a market share of over 42%.[11] It also has the largest market share of any search engine from Europe and the Commonwealth of Independent States and is the 5th largest search engine worldwide after Google, Baidu, Bing, and Yahoo!

In September 2005, it opened an office in Ukraine[21] and launched www.yandex.ua.[22] In 2007, Yandex introduced a customized search engine for Ukrainian users;[23] Yandex also opened its development center in Kyiv in May 2007. In 2008, Yandex extended its presence in Ukraine by increasing bandwidth between Moscow data centers and UA-IX in Ukraine fivefold.[24] In 2009, all services of www.yandex.ua were localized for the Ukrainian market.[25] In 2010, Yandex launched its "Poltava" search engine algorithm for Ukrainian users, based on its MatrixNet technology.[26]

On June 20, 2008, it announced the formation of Yandex Labs in Silicon Valley, with an objective to foster "innovation in search and advertising technology".[13]

On April 20, 2020 as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic in Russia, Yandex announced that it would make its home coronavirus testing service free of charge for all residents of Moscow and its surroundings, and will be available to other regions in the future. Previously, it announced the launch of the service on April 16.[83]


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PBC_Democrat

(401 posts)
12. The Teacher's Union Lost Me ...
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 12:46 AM
Jan 2022

when they called the Mayor relentlessly stupid

So much for negotiating in good faith.

Mrsfiddlegirl

(15 posts)
17. Lightfoot has COVID-19
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 05:54 PM
Jan 2022

And right on cue....Lightfoot announces today that she has COVID-19 and is working from home, an option teachers don't have now at CPS. This debacle highlights the terrible leadership at Chicago Teachers Union who folded without even allowing the full membership vote until after students return Wednesday. I adored teaching for 43 years, including at CPS, but I wouldn't remotely consider it as a career if I was a young person today. Sad.

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