Prince Andrew loses military titles and patronages

[fishwax]

Source: BBC

The Duke of York's military titles and royal patronages have been returned to the Queen, Buckingham Palace has announced.

Prince Andrew will also stop using the style His Royal Highness in an official capacity, a royal source added.

The duke's roles will be distributed among members of the Royal Family.

It comes as he faces a civil case in the US over claims he sexually assaulted a woman when she was 17, which he has consistently denied.



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[CTyankee]

1. I'm surprised, actually. I didn't think she'd do this. It makes me wonder if there are many things

we DON'T know but she does and she wants to put him as far from the Palace as she can.

[BComplex]

4. Too bad the good ole USA doesn't do the same to our own scumbags.

I wish they'd lock up the ones we KNOW were involved with trump's pedophile buddies.

[ShazzieB]

21. That's exactly what I've been wondering.

[cilla4progress]

2. But he will live forever in financial and personal comfort,

while deserving others live and die in poverty and squalor.

Incapable of shame, I'm certain.

Royalty is obscene and corrupt.

[VGNonly]

5. "Man won't be free

until the last king is strangled by the entrails of the last priest"

Denis Diderot

[cilla4progress]

9. I was going to also mention the corruption of

the "church."

Thanks for throwing that in ...

[PatrickforB]

18. Very provocative quote. But how can we add in oligarchs? Would we,

for example, consider Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk 'kings?'

And, on that note, the clergy of what religions would be included in the 'last priest' role?

Also, on the priest thing, would a KKK grand dragon count as a 'priest?' They do burn crosses. And the Storm Front people, as well as other Nazis claim to be 'christian.' Would their leaders count as 'priests?'

[calimary]

24. That's a GREAT quote!

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“Man won’t be free until the last king is strangled by the entrails of the last priest.”

- Denis Diderot


That’s a humdinger!

[tavernier]

41. Never happen.

Not as long as people worship and demand them.

[Marthe48]

3. alleged to have sexually assaulted an under-age female

The economy of words "sexually assaulted a woman when she was 17" or as CBS reported, "Sexually assaulted an under-age woman" doesn't work.

He didn't allegedly assault a woman. He allegedly assaulted a girl.

[MLAA]

10. +100

[cstanleytech]

19. 17 is not a girl but regardless of her age if she was forced then it's rape plain and simple.

The real question is will he face any real consequences or will the British government protect him?

[Farmer-Rick]

27. A 17 year old can not vote in many States

They can't join in a legal contract without a co-signer and they cannot legally own or sell anything. To marry they need signed legal consent from a guardian. They cannot legally enter a club or buy alcohol.

So, that pretty well defines a girl and not a woman.

[cstanleytech]

28. So, legal to buy liquor makes someone an adult?

[Farmer-Rick]

29. In the eyes of the law it does

And you know I listed more rights than just drinking. What about voting?

A 17 year old is not considered a grown woman or man in the eyes of the law because they don't have the rights of adults.

So, a 17 year old, though frequently called a young woman or young man, really does not have the rights of an adult yet. So, I would not think you could treat them as adults.

[cstanleytech]

36. Granted they are not a legal adult but a 17 year old is not a child either.

Hell, I have known 15 year old's that behave more like an adult than some people that are 30+ years old.
But anyway to get it back on track to the actual topic, if he broke the law then he should be made to answer for.

[Farmer-Rick]

38. Yeah, that is the bottom line.

But anyway to get it back on track to the actual topic, if he broke the law then he should be made to answer for it.

So true.

[cstanleytech]

39. Of course that brings into question of if he will be or if the British government will decline

to deport him if asked to.

[niyad]

34. A 17-year old is, in the eyes of the law, a minor CHILD. A 17- year old female is a GIRL.

[Jedi Guy]

30. Of the three assaults alleged by Roberts Giuffre...

Only one (US Virgin Islands) would count as underaged. The other two allegedly occurred in New York and London, where the age of consent is 17. So he's potentially on the hook for only a single charge of assault on an underaged girl. The other two would qualify as sexual assault and/or forcible rape.

I seem to recall reading not long ago that her attorneys challenged him to produce medical documentation proving his assertion that he's unable to perspire. That's probably a pretty fruitless attempt, I'd think. He most certainly has the resources and connections to falsify such a thing.

She might nail him in civil court (particularly if he fails to respond to the suit and she gets a default judgment) but he'll never spend a day behind bars and will live in luxury to his dying day.

He's a scumbag.

[niyad]

35. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN "UNDERAGED WOMAN". If a female is underage,

she is legally a CHILD. A GIRL. I am sick to death of this disgusting distortion and manipulation.

[obamanut2012]

6. Not being allowed to use HRH is HUGE

Or rather, HUGH!

[Blue_playwright]

15. It really is...

He’s lost all police protection and diplomatic immunity.

[Sanity Claws]

7. I wonder whether he will be persona non gratis at family events

The Royal Family is still a family, albeit an odd one.

[RFCalifornia]

45. Inbreeding will do that to you

[Ray Bruns]

8. Ouch. That has gotta hurt.

[inthewind21]

12. And to think

The royals were up in arms about Sarah Ferguson and Diana.

[Marcuse]

14. Yes. None of this would have happened if Charles and Andrew had wed their cousins as per tradition.

[TNNurse]

23. And anything Harry did is not as big a deal as this.

Well, some may think so, but not in my mind.

[Submariner]

13. They do seem to have a lot of stamina for shaming themselves

I remember the twisted Charles and Camilla tapes of the cheating prince, but how soon everyone forgets, because he is supposedly going to be king when QE dies, and he wants the cheating Camilla to be queen. No class anymore.

[Gaugamela]

16. Breaking: Prince Andrew discovers he can sweat after all.

[Jedi Guy]

31. Ha! Well played. N/T

[Jilly_in_VA]

17. He used to be

his mother's favorite child, or so it was said. Now she's taken away all his pretty toys and sat him in a corner. It may be a luxurious corner, but it's still a corner. Apparently when you get sat there by a queen (who also happens to be your mother) it can be very uncomfortable. (see: shunning, Amish)

[milestogo]

20. His royal goose is cooked.

[colorado_ufo]

22. I am sorry for the queen's pain.

This is her son, and it has not been very long since she lost her husband.

It seems that she always puts her role and monarchy first.

[Slammer]

25. military service

I know the British have a different system than we do. But he served in their military from 1979 to 2001 and retired as a Commander.

Now after retirement he was promoted to Honorary Captain then to Rear Admiral then to Vice Admiral over the years.

If they'd asked my opinion, they could have stripped them of the ranks which he didn't earn and return him to the rank which he earned during his time of service.

Regardless of what might have happened resulting from his friendship with Epstein after Andrew's years of military service, he actually did do that military service.

[Sgent]

33. T think this the Queen can only

take away (easily) what she granted, so his earned ranks / promotions, medals, and pension are still his. I know for instance there has to be an Act of Parliament to remove his Duchy.

[Slammer]

37. TY

Ah, thank you. That makes sense.

[Moebym]

26. Holy s--t, this is major.

I wonder what will happen to his daughters and their respective children...

[Jedi Guy]

32. Probably nothing, which is as it should be.

They're not responsible for their father's sins. Some may grind their teeth to know they're living in luxury, but I don't think that and being his offspring justifies punishing them.

[Buckeyeblue]

40. Did they do this so Andrew can claim he has no assets?

My bad guess is that Andrew's people offered a settlement that the victim turned down. So now he is essentially not a royal, and has no real assets. Sue away. She may win in court but she won't end up with a dime.

A more interesting suit would be against the queen for helping to cover up Andrew's crimes. But maybe that's not possible.

[milestogo]

42. How did she do that?

[Buckeyeblue]

44. Wasn't she trying to assert that he had diplomatic immunity?

[GoneOffShore]

43. His last job was lowering the Royal Standard in Barbados.

But he's been lowering royal standards for years, so he has had plenty of practice.

I'll go to my room now.