Firearms, a drone and 30 days of supplies: New details of Oath Keepers Jan. 6 weapons cache
Source: Politico via MSN
Firearms, a drone and 30 days of supplies: New details of Oath Keepers Jan. 6 weapons cache
But the most salient details in the new memo describe the planning and stockpiling of weapons at the Comfort Inn. Among them, prosecutors say, were at least three luggage carts worth of gun boxes, rifle cases, and suitcases filled with ammunition.
A second QRF team from North Carolina consisted of four men who kept their rifles ready to go in a vehicle parked in the hotel lot, according to the Justice Department. Later, Vallejo and other members of the Arizona QRF team wheeled in bags and large bins of weapons, ammunition, and essential supplies to last 30 days.
Prosecutors say that as some Oath Keepers breached the Capitol, Vallejo attempted, but failed, to launch
a drone with a 720p cam for recon use. Capitol Police officials have, in recent days, described efforts to protect the Capitol against unauthorized drones.
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Just a peaceful exercise of their First Amendment rights.
FarPoint
(12,472 posts)" Whitehouse Down" but the target was the US Capitol/ Congress...
Irish_Dem
(47,697 posts)Except they think they are the good guys.
Scrivener7
(51,075 posts)the next time they will be better at this.
dalton99a
(81,673 posts)Aviation Pro
(12,224 posts)That they're using as ammo boxes.
Marthe48
(17,087 posts)What do the traitors epect will happen if they topple our democracy? Do the traitor criminals think they will be special to their traitor masters? They might be at first, but I bet that individuals would be called on to commit worse and worse atrocities against American citizens to keep getting special favors. None of the traitor criminals will be valued by traitor masters for very long. Just look at the track record of traitor henchmen left in a ditch.
PatSeg
(47,711 posts)If you look throughout history and even all over the world today, the insurrectionists on the ground rarely achieve any kind of power and of course, the world does not become a better place because of their coups. Sometimes these same people will end up rebelling against the government they put in power.
I often wonder if it is the fight they care about, not any actual cause. Some people thrive on violence and destruction and any old excuse will do. What's the point of stockpiling all those expensive weapons and ammo if they can't use them? Whatever happens, they will end up very disappointed, in jail, or very likely dead. Unfortunately, they think they are living in some cheesy action flick.
GB_RN
(2,400 posts)Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
These assholes believed in the absurd because of their leaders (who hated Obama because he was Black), fell for the "he's coming for your guns" schtick and then fell even harder for tRump's BS. So, their leaders and by extension, tRump, were able to convince them to commit atrocities against the Republic. If they'd succeeded, they'd have continued to commit atrocities, as their consciences were long since obliterated in terms of caring for "the other": We've all been dehumanized. The gods help you if you weren't white and these assclowns had won.
jmowreader
(50,580 posts)During the eight years Obama was president, he took two actions to expand gun rights.
The first we all know about: he allowed people to carry guns in national parks.
The other I had to learn about from a gun dealer. I bought something from a pawn shop that sells a lot of guns, so I was asking about how well the gun trade was going. He told me Obama tried to get nationwide reciprocity for concealed weapons permits - right now, if I had an Idaho CCW card it wouldnt be valid in about a third of the country. Under Obamas plan, it would hold the same status as a drivers license - valid nationwide. The Republicans turned him down because it would interfere in states rights to do it.
Also, Barack Obama and Joe Biden are both gun owners
they both have shotguns. I believe Biden is a bird hunter, and Obama is an excellent skeet shooter.
And then theres Placeholder. Probably the last gun Trump ever even held was the wooden one he had in military school. Trump owns no guns, can shoot no guns, and attempted to grab every bump stock in the country without even buying them back. And this idiot is the one they trust to defend their gun rights? Wouldnt that be like hiring the Big Bad Wolf to house-sit at Grandmas?
But all those clowns saw (as the late, great Bartcop paraphrased them) was "that NITWH*", and they couldn't stand it. They'd make up any reason to hate/oppose him. I remember seeing pics of the Goat Keepers riding around with leather jackets that had, "N****r, please. It's called the WHITE House!" stitched on the back. Says all you needed to know about them.
For the life of me, I can't figure out how the Mama's Boys and Goat Keepers manage to recruit minorities like Tusitala "Tiny" Toese and Enrique "Henry" Tarrio. Hispanics and South Pacific Islanders aren't exactly people I see fitting in well with Nazi-adjacent, but full-on Euro-heritage, and "White Power!" goons. 🤷?♂️
*Clean version is -Black Guy In The White House-
hadEnuf
(2,222 posts)They are as brainwashed as the Nazi SS were. Force - or the overwhelming threat of it, be it non-violent or violent, is the only thing they understand in their addled minds.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,772 posts)not a problem, by the TFG death cult.
mitch96
(13,938 posts)They were spewing the same shit but more of a survival, end of times, defensive action..
Most were out of Idaho and Montana... I mean really out there talk.. The guys making out were the people selling the survival gear and guns....
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LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)Unfortunately, tactical gear does not bestow tactical experience, understanding and awareness. Just a cool costume. Of course the difference between kids playing army and adults doing it, is one group can still sleep in their bed that night and get up the next morning as if nothing happened. The other not so much.
mitch96
(13,938 posts)Or get maimed? lose a arm or leg for him? How about bedridden with a colostomy bag?
Not many I guess...
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LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)I really want to know in what situation, other than as a range toy, one would need a semi-automatic Uzi-knockoff. That isnt me being against semi-auto tech. That is me saying the whole point of an Uzi is the autofire. Take that away
and you got a bulky 9mm, oversized pistol.
Shit like that.
mitch96
(13,938 posts)jmowreader
(50,580 posts)It will also shoot through two layers of drywall and carry enough energy to kill your kid when it comes out the other side, but we wont talk about that.
Botany
(70,635 posts)Never mind that you can buy pudding, rice, flour, coffee, and so on @ your neighborhood grocery.
mitch96
(13,938 posts)jeans and donkeys made out like bandits!!!
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Botany
(70,635 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 19, 2022, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)
BTW if I was starving I don't know if I would eat that crap.
And their suckers are the same people who promised to fight to the death when "the big government"
came for them with their gunz but when the FBI or US Marshall came for them after their 1/6/21
US Capitol riot they all went without a fuss.
jmowreader
(50,580 posts)The guys who run it bought a Bakker Bucket a few years ago and ate everything in it. They said it was vile.
fwvinson
(488 posts)is all you had at night back then, was RWNJ BS, religion and political
Evolve Dammit
(16,803 posts)replacement)? I can't listen anymore. So much hate and lies. It has taken a major toll on this country.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)simply tourists I tell ya..............
kacekwl
(7,025 posts)given the amount of video the DOJ the FBI has the number of oath keepers arrested and I assume interrogated that the people funding and assisting them is yet to be known. These are the ones I want charged and outed. They practically confess every day in their own words. Like I said I hope this is in progress already and the leaders are again going to get a pass.
Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)
and other militia larpers are doing a lot of talking yet. Theyve pled out a lot of the real estate agents, hardware store owners and retirees who went to DC and went along with the crowd. The idiots that marched on command and can plausibly claim they got swept up with the mob mentality.
But the militia guys are mostly still sitting in jail keeping their mouths shut. (There have been a few that have struck deals, but still mostly low level grunts). These are the guys described in the OP - the true believers that went organized and prepared to kill their enemies. And I suspect many of them still believe Тяцмp is somehow going to save them.
Until those guys start rolling over and telling what they know, the people up the chain likely wont be charged.
IronLionZion
(45,615 posts)just normal tourist behavior
modrepub
(3,504 posts)"Peaceful" exercise of 2nd amendment rights. That's what that amendment is all about.
Bayard
(22,204 posts)Without anyone noticing?
Slammer
(714 posts)Well, obviously they were realistic enough to know that if they did manage to overthrow the government that supplies would be disrupted and store shelves would no longer be re-stocked with food.
But nowhere have I seen any indication that they were bringing enough weapons to fight off the National Guard or the military.
I take that to mean that they had assurances the military would stay loyal to Trump during a coup. Because there's no reason to attempt a coup then not bring all your weapons and ammunition to back it up.
I've talked to enough survivalists over the years (survivalists not insurrectionists), to know that many of them think that you're under-prepared if you only have 40,000 rounds of ammo for your multiple guns.
So these guys showing up with a small selection of their guns and a small portion of their ammo means to me that they weren't expecting much opposition or they were expecting re-supply of guns and ammunition...but not food.
durablend
(7,467 posts)"Well, obviously they were realistic enough to know that if they did manage to overthrow the government that supplies would be disrupted and store shelves would no longer be re-stocked with food."
They figured the weekly trips to Walmart would be completely unaffected along with their favorite teevee shows.
I mean such brain surgeons they clearly are
moondust
(20,019 posts)comparable to the materials in the DNC/RNC bombs?