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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 01:28 PM Jan 2022

BREAKING: Fulton DA requests special grand jury for Trump probe

Source: Atlanta Journal constitution

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is requesting a special grand jury to aid in her investigation of former President Donald Trump and his efforts to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election results.

In a Thursday letter to Christopher S. Brasher, chief judge of Fulton County’s Superior Court, Willis said the move was needed because a “significant number of witnesses and prospective witnesses have refused to cooperate with the investigation absent a subpoena requiring their testimony.”

She cited comments Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger made during an October 2021 interview with NBC News’ Chuck Todd, in which he said “if she wants to interview me, there’s a process for that.”

Read more: https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/breaking-fulton-da-requests-special-grand-jury-for-trump-probe/E5HCDM2P75ETRAEUHBK2Q7L3FY/

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BREAKING: Fulton DA requests special grand jury for Trump probe (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 OP
Say "Cheese," Brad. dchill Jan 2022 #1
Excellent news! Lonestarblue Jan 2022 #2
"being convicted of a crime does not necessarily mean that he can't run for president" That has to Escurumbele Jan 2022 #5
there are things that may impact this..... getagrip_already Jan 2022 #13
The long arm of the Law has remedies for all folks hiding behind lies. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #9
could we get a fair trial anywhere in the south? getagrip_already Jan 2022 #14
A jury in Altanta ought to be able to be seated soldierant Jan 2022 #19
Grand jury action on an indictment doesn't have to be unanimous as I understand it Walleye Jan 2022 #27
I was thinking of jury trials..... getagrip_already Jan 2022 #31
Well I'll only be glad if we get that far before the Republicans sweep in and pardon everybody Walleye Jan 2022 #32
I thought it only had to be unanimous in "capital" cases - soldierant Jan 2022 #34
just one citation, but..... getagrip_already Jan 2022 #35
Absolutely Amy_Jones_90 Jan 2022 #30
Sounds Like Raffensperger Went On Chucky Toad's Show... GB_RN Jan 2022 #3
What is there to investigate? THERE IS AN AUDIO, witnesses, plenty of proof! Escurumbele Jan 2022 #4
Really? Investigation in the Twittersphere is not at all like in the real world. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #11
Bradley seems to have already forgotten 2Gingersnaps Jan 2022 #26
we need !! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #6
So that is two powerful and smart black women going after TFG? Botany Jan 2022 #7
Trump will need more lawyers. Wonder how many he has now. riversedge Jan 2022 #21
I'm wondering when the RNC is going to get tired of shoveling money his way crickets Jan 2022 #29
As the vice tightens fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #8
I thought there already was a Grand Jury looking into this issue. KS Toronado Jan 2022 #10
Fulton County DA requests special grand jury to probe Trump's election interference LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #12
KR! Cha Jan 2022 #15
Lock him up!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2022 #16
Trump has the most Grand Juries in the country. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #17
So many Grand Juries! Like nobody's ever seen before! ShazzieB Jan 2022 #23
Georgia prosecutor requests special grand jury in probe of Trump's efforts to overturn state's elect LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #18
BOOM! Babay LymphocyteLover Jan 2022 #20
Is it me or is Trump just continue to lose..... WillUSAF Jan 2022 #22
Deep doo doo meets fan: "enough evidence to make a WIRE FRAUD referral ...." L. Coyote Jan 2022 #24
Go Willis! burrowowl Jan 2022 #25
I don't want much E. Normus Jan 2022 #28
Absolutely. I don't expect world peace or an end to hunger but this menace has to be punished Walleye Jan 2022 #33
Wonder when it will be scheduled? n/t msfiddlestix Jan 2022 #36
DA for Atlanta area granted special grand jury to probe Trump's election interference LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #37

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
2. Excellent news!
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jan 2022

The more investigations he faces, the better. Surely one of them will have consequences. I’ve lost faith that anything will be done at the federal level, though some of his accomplices may well be in trouble. Unfortunately, being convicted of a crime does not necessarily mean that he can’t run for president in 2024. I saw an article this morning (CNN) that said he is definitely running because he thinks the DOJ rule of not prosecuting sitting presidents would protect him from these investigations. Plus, he would try to pardon himself.

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
5. "being convicted of a crime does not necessarily mean that he can't run for president" That has to
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 01:46 PM
Jan 2022

change, a convicted person should loose his/her ability to run for public office.

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
13. there are things that may impact this.....
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:41 PM
Jan 2022

Though you are correct, there is no restriction that a person convicted of a felony cannot run for potus.

But, there are still some civil war era crimes on the books that could prohibit a person from being on the ballot in some states. It all depends on what he is charged with.

So keeping him off the ballot in a state like GA would certainly hurt his chances.

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
14. could we get a fair trial anywhere in the south?
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jan 2022

If someone gets on the jury who simply won't acknowledge that 1+1=2, no matter how you explain it, how can you prosecute a case?

soldierant

(6,870 posts)
19. A jury in Altanta ought to be able to be seated
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 04:01 PM
Jan 2022

which can understand that 1 + 1= 2. Atlanta's reasonably progressive. And it is in Fulton County - or most of it is, There's some in DeKalb.) *edited to correct location.

soldierant

(6,870 posts)
34. I thought it only had to be unanimous in "capital" cases -
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 08:15 PM
Jan 2022

that is, cases where the death penalty or life improsonment was a possible sentence/.

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
35. just one citation, but.....
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jan 2022

How many jurors must vote for conviction in a criminal trial?

In criminal cases, most courts (state and federal) require a unanimous vote by the jury to find the defendant guilty.

Currently, courts in only two states allow for conviction of a defendant via non-unanimous voting, and those are generally reserved for minor charges.

Note: Federal military courts-martial, a special form of Article I federal court that enforces criminal actions, allows for a non-unanimous finding of guilty in certain cases.

Amy_Jones_90

(16 posts)
30. Absolutely
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:08 PM
Jan 2022

We could get a fair trial - Fulton County is home to Atlanta, a big, very diverse, very blue city. Atlanta and surrounding counties are the reason Biden/Harris won Georgia.

GB_RN

(2,355 posts)
3. Sounds Like Raffensperger Went On Chucky Toad's Show...
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jan 2022

To Fuck Around (with Fani Willis) and now he's going to Find Out...

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
4. What is there to investigate? THERE IS AN AUDIO, witnesses, plenty of proof!
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jan 2022


The fact that Raffensperger decided to record the SOB just tells us that he tried it before, but Raffensperger wanted to have it in audio as proof, and if Raffensperger has any "integrity" he won't even need a subpoena to testify.

I really don't get it, I know, it just makes my blood boil...I can investigate the corruption of the buffoon in an hour and a couple of minutes, and only because I would be forced to listen to the audio again...

Get the audio, which they already have. Subpoena everyone on the phone call to testify (and don't give them a week or two to appear, next Wednesday is fine), then indict the SOB, set up a trial ASAP and then throw the SOB in jail.

How difficult is that?
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. Really? Investigation in the Twittersphere is not at all like in the real world.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jan 2022

Investigation, investigative report to prosecutors, review by prosecutors, request for cooperation fro witnesses identified in said investigative report…no cooperation then next step is compelled testimony…need grand jury for that and it goes on and on to indictment, trial, appeals…that’s the rules of law. That’s way America justice works for all as all are equal under the law, even the tRump demons.

The real law in the real world presumes Innocent Until Proven Guilty…beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of Law, no Twitter jurist will be empaneled.

That’s much tougher job.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
26. Bradley seems to have already forgotten
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:29 AM
Jan 2022

threats of legal repercussions from the DOJ and the stalking and threats of harm from the flying monkeys of his own party. The Mike Pence two step?

Botany

(70,504 posts)
7. So that is two powerful and smart black women going after TFG?
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 01:51 PM
Jan 2022

Fulton County, GA Fani Willis and NY's AG Letitia James. TFG most be shitten' kittens. And they wouldn't be doing this
unless they had the goods on him.

BTW the lawyer for the Sec. of State's office in GA has TFG on tape saying something like just say there is
some doubt about the election because "big things are gonna happen on 1/6." (rough quote)

crickets

(25,979 posts)
29. I'm wondering when the RNC is going to get tired of shoveling money his way
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jan 2022

to help pay for all of them. There's a solid case shaping up with the Jan 6th committee that's going to hit the airwaves soon, and more than one state case barrelling down on him. There will be a tipping point when the RNC cuts him loose. How much money will they throw into the bottomless pit before they realize it's a lost cause? Can't wait to see it.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
12. Fulton County DA requests special grand jury to probe Trump's election interference
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:16 PM
Jan 2022



(CNN)A district attorney in Georgia investigating former President Donald Trump's effort to overturn election results in the state is requesting a special grand jury in an effort to gather information relevant to the probe, according to a letter sent to the court.

This story is breaking and will be updated.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
18. Georgia prosecutor requests special grand jury in probe of Trump's efforts to overturn state's elect
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 03:48 PM
Jan 2022

This will be fun to watch




The Atlanta-area prosecutor weighing whether former president Donald Trump and others committed crimes by trying to pressure Georgia election officials has requested a special purpose grand jury to aid in her investigation.

In a letter Thursday, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) told the chief judge of Fulton County’s Superior Court that the move was needed because a “significant number of witnesses and prospective witnesses have refused to cooperate with the investigation absent a subpoena requiring their testimony.”,,,,,

In her letter to Christopher S. Brasher, chief judge of Fulton County’s Superior Court, Willis cited several advantages to impaneling a rarely used special purpose grand jury.

Among them: It could sit for a longer period of time than a normal grand jury and it would focus solely on the matter at hand, which she called “appropriate to the complexity of the facts and circumstances involved.”

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
24. Deep doo doo meets fan: "enough evidence to make a WIRE FRAUD referral ...."
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:29 AM
Jan 2022

“The committee is also examining whether there is enough evidence to make a WIRE FRAUD referral over how Mr. Trump’s CAMPAIGN and the Republican Party raised $255.4 million from donors as he & his allies fund-raised off the FALSE claim that the election had been stolen”




E. Normus

(79 posts)
28. I don't want much
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:12 PM
Jan 2022

you see, I'm in my early 60s, and done okay. I'm not rich, but comfortable. Got everything I need, and most of what I want. However, I now find that I want at least one of these two things. First, that TFG goes to jail, second, that TFG goes bankrupt. I don't know which would be worse for him. So you see, I'm not asking for much. But what I'm asking for, I insist upon. Does anyone else feel so aggrieved as I do that it is almost all that I want now?

Walleye

(31,022 posts)
33. Absolutely. I don't expect world peace or an end to hunger but this menace has to be punished
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:52 PM
Jan 2022

I need for that long moral arc of the universe to start venting toward justice here pretty soon, or I won’t live to see it

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
37. DA for Atlanta area granted special grand jury to probe Trump's election interference
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 03:02 AM
Jan 2022

Let the fun begin




An Atlanta-area district attorney investigating former President Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia will be allowed to seat a special grand jury this spring.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis requested last week to seat a special grand jury starting May 2. Fulton County Superior Court judges approved the request on Monday.

Though the special grand jury does not have the authority to issue an indictment, the move will allow Willis to seat a panel entirely focused on gathering evidence in the Trump investigation. She said she needed such a grand jury in order to issue subpoenas to compel witnesses to testify and to gather additional evidence -- a step toward pursuing possible criminal charges......

"The people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you've recalculated," Trump said during the January 2021 call. Raffensperger responded, "Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong."
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