Arizona bill would allow legislature to overturn election results

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: The Hill

An arch conservative member of Arizona's state House of Representatives has proposed a mammoth overhaul of the state's voting procedures that would allow legislators to overturn the results of a primary or general election after months of unfounded allegations and partisan audits.

The bill, introduced by state Rep. John Fillmore (R), would substantially change the way Arizonans vote by eliminating most early and absentee voting and requiring people to vote in their home precincts, rather than at vote centers set up around the state.

Most dramatically, Fillmore's bill would require the legislature to hold a special session after an election to review election processes and results, and to "accept or reject the election results."

The proposal comes after President Biden became the first Democrat since former President Clinton to win Arizona's electoral votes. He defeated former President Trump there by just under 11,000 votes, or about three-tenths of a percentage point.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/arizona-bill-would-allow-legislature-to-overturn-election-results/ar-AATcHtb?li=BBnb7Kz

[Ray Bruns]

1. If they can't win they will steal the election.

[Rebl2]

6. Exactly!

[rockfordfile]

18. I agree. They're un-American pos.

[orangecrush]

2. The DOJ

Will be all over that.

[gab13by13]

10. Where was DOJ

when a bogus company, Cyber Ninjas, had access to ballots, voter information, election materials and equipment which should have remained in the possession of election officials. Clearly violations of state and federal laws.

[leftieNanner]

17. They sent a sternly worded letter

I think that's it.

[gab13by13]

21. Yes they did,

and in that letter DOJ warned them not to go door to door looking for voter fraud. They still went door to door.

[turbinetree]

3. Does he belong to the Sovereign Citizens bunch....what plutocrats are backing him....

[c-rational]

4. How could something so blatantly undemocratic become law. Rule by the insane.

[cstanleytech]

5. Sounds like they want is to fashion themselves as the new lords

via the power to reject results that would remove themselves from office.

[scipan]

23. This.

I believe this would be unconstitutional under several amendments and the Guarantee Clause. (Guarantees a republican form of government to each state).

[LoisB]

7. In other words we, the Republicans, will decide for whom you voted.

[Magoo48]

8. Fuckin' white power, knucklehead, Nazis......too much? Naaaaaw

[Alexander Of Assyria]

14. Bumble and Bluster full of hot air, the guy might as well introduce bill...earth IS flat!

Bumblers in legislatures can introduce toilet paper if they like.

[Deminpenn]

9. I cannot imagine a scenario where something like this

doesn't result in huge and ongoing protests. Know these proposals sound do-able, but I don't think any of them are in reality.

[SCantiGOP]

26. I can't imagine a scenario where

the courts would not immediately step in and throw this crap out.
Yes, the states have a lot of leeway to establish the voting rules and procedures, but two things I don't think could ever get by the courts are procedures that deny some people the right to vote, or any crap like saying the State Legislature can arbitrarily overturn an election result.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. Under most state Constitutions, shouldn't that be unconstitutional?

[gab13by13]

12. They aren't just doing this in Arizona.

Once a law is passed it is harder to get it repealed, it would have to go all the way to the SC and at least 3 members of the SC have voiced opinions that the states have absolute authority to run their own elections.

[intheflow]

27. To run their own elections, yes.

To overturn valid election results is another thing altogether.

[onecaliberal]

34. Pretty sure it's a done deal in GA.

[LaMouffette]

13. I guess Repubs did not foresee the unintended consequence of letting Covid run rampant through the

United States. Apparently, there is a migration going on out of blue states like California and New York. Arizona is one destination:

All these pandemic-era moves could swing a future election.

Overall, household moves among Americans are down this year — and predictions about a permanent “urban exodus” appear to be overstated. But based on voter registration data, U.S. Census data, and an analysis of Redfin.com searches, migration out of New York and California in the four years since the 2016 election has already reshaped the 2020 political map. Population gains in Arizona and Nevada have come with a larger electorate of Democrats. And if the trends hold, the states may only get bluer.

[link:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-02/how-covid-migration-may-change-the-political-map|

So Arizona is turning blue and this John Fillmore is going to hold his breath and turn blue, too (until he gets his way and Repubs can reject Democratic victories).

[FoxNewsSucks]

15. If only Democrats controlled the Federal government,

and could pass some kind of law that would protect voters, voters' rights, and ensure secure fair elections to prevent this kind of blatant cheating power-grab.

[onecaliberal]

35. K&R

[Igel]

37. Right now there are ways for the House, Senate, and combined sessions

to overturn state election results for federal-level offices--not seat winners or not accept EC votes. Every presidential election there are some who try this, either for real or symbolically, 2021 seeing the most ever by a wide margin to reject Biden's electors, 2017 seeing a spike in those who wanted to reject Trump's.

From time to time a representative's been left unseated; more often, the idea is floated and nothing comes of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unseated_members_of_the_United_States_Congress#1967-2009:_Contested_elections_and_corruption_charges

The EC vote-count act proposals all include some mechanism for disposing of electors. If an election is blatantly corrupted, you want that ability--otherwise it's not a count, it's just a receipt of the results with a nod (or not, it doesn't matter).


As for the frequency and distribution of this kind of thing among the states ... No clue. I don't assume the MSM is going to provide a reasoned random sample.

[Javaman]

16. I wonder if this halfwit crook has stock in any of the "cyber ninji" bullshit companies as well.

just another grift and or money laundering set up under the usual right wing guise of "accountability".

[StClone]

19. History replete with examples of the results when this stuff is allowed to happen

But history lessons are banned in these state so WE are all taken along with the damned to repeat it.

[Lunabell]

20. Who says we need voting rights?

Right?

[twodogsbarking]

22. There is no mechanism in the Constitution for expelling a state from the union.

Maybe this could me modified, eh.

[Buckeyeblue]

24. Congress should pass a law that denies federal funds to any state

Whose legislature overturns a federal election.

[mahina]

25. Not conservative. Radical far right authoritarian extremist.

[KS Toronado]

28. We need to win BIG in the midterms to put this kind of crap to rest forever

With solid majorities in both Houses after the midterms, we'll be able to shape this country
into something that is fair and just for everybody.

[Emile]

29. The longer Trump is allowed to orchestrate the big lie

and go unpunished, this shit will continue.

[Justice matters.]

30. Fascist GQPs.

[patphil]

31. So, technically they can never be voted out of office, unless they agree to lose.

Next they'll pass a law doing away with elections all together.
After all, what's the point if the election effectively becomes a non-binding opinion poll.

[intheflow]

32. Betcha this is the knee-jerk reaction of the probable imprisonment

of Arizona's false elector slate, also in the news today.

[monkeyman1]

33. need a bill to get rid of congress critters at any given time ??? not just voting????

[BradAllison]

36. I wonder what Cinnebon will say

Probably nothing. She won't run again, she's got her coin.

[Martin68]

38. This cannot be allowed to stand.

[ecstatic]

39. We shouldn't abide by illegal laws

Should that bill make it to the governor's desk. Smh