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groundloop

(11,521 posts)
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 01:15 PM Feb 2022

More than 600 geographic sites across the US will be renamed, replacing a derogatory term ......

Source: CNN

Full Headline: More than 600 geographic sites across the US will be renamed, replacing a derogatory term for Indigenous women used for decades


The Department of the Interior is moving forward with removing and replacing a derogatory term for Indigenous women used for decades across the US, the department said Tuesday.

Interior Secretary Deb Haaland issued an order declaring "squaw" derogatory in November. The term has historically been used as an offensive ethnic, racial and sexist slur towards Indigenous women, the department said in a news release at the time.

Haaland, who is the first Native American to serve as a cabinet secretary, established a 13-member task force to rename more than 600 geographic features that contain the term through that order.

[snip]

"Words matter, particularly in our work to make our nation's public lands and waters accessible and welcoming to people of all backgrounds." Haaland said in Thursday's news release. "Throughout this process, broad engagement with Tribes, stakeholders and the general public will help us advance our goals of equity and inclusion."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/27/us/derogatory-term-squaw-replaced-trnd/index.html

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More than 600 geographic sites across the US will be renamed, replacing a derogatory term ...... (Original Post) groundloop Feb 2022 OP
Love that this is happening. We all deserve respect and to not be marginalized. n/t iluvtennis Feb 2022 #1
100% Doodley Feb 2022 #2
K&R!! 2naSalit Feb 2022 #3
There goes Negro Mountain in western MD .... they have already took down the signs Botany Feb 2022 #4
You know it wasn't always "Negro" Mountain COL Mustard Feb 2022 #9
Not far from The Continental Divide as I recall. twodogsbarking Feb 2022 #13
Just about a few miles to the east from that mountain top. Botany Feb 2022 #27
The Continental Divide? In Maryland? Beartracks Mar 2022 #43
I68 between Grantsville and Frostburg, MD. twodogsbarking Mar 2022 #47
We have an 'n' word mountain in Alabama too. trof Mar 2022 #54
"Negro" was considered a more civilized and polite term not that long ago. n/t Calista241 Mar 2022 #48
I know nothing of the naming history of this mountain kwolf68 Mar 2022 #49
Bunch of different stories about how the name came about. Botany Mar 2022 #50
Wouldn't couldn't happen without Biden. Thanks Joe Biden! ffr Feb 2022 #5
yes, and I think the polls are manipulated housecat Feb 2022 #12
Way past time. I hear it far too often in conversation in OK. Too bad that won't change. Runningdawg Feb 2022 #6
About time! Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #7
Progress. Magoo48 Feb 2022 #8
How about renaming anything that's named ... aggiesal Feb 2022 #10
I find the name offensive. Add J Edgar Hoover to the list. twodogsbarking Feb 2022 #14
I still call National Airport by that name, and... 3catwoman3 Feb 2022 #23
Ditto bermudat Feb 2022 #33
+1 demigoddess Feb 2022 #24
Not gonna happen Polybius Feb 2022 #32
I think this is about removing actual offensive terms... LiberatedUSA Feb 2022 #36
You are, if course, correct. This is OP material right here. Beartracks Mar 2022 #41
Yes; National Airport has been defiled with that filthy name for way too long. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #39
+1 this! Lose the Reagan name. n/t FSogol Mar 2022 #53
Well, I happen to love Tahoe Palisades Bread, if that's what it's going to be called... NNadir Feb 2022 #11
It's about time Wild blueberry Feb 2022 #15
The word 'Reagan' should also be declared derrogatory ArizonaLib Feb 2022 #16
Soooo.... BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #17
I'm guessing those who named the places were well aware of the meaning Merlot Feb 2022 #18
I agree - they just didn't care. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #20
I just saw "N_____ Corner" or some such on Google Maps! OK or AR, unsurprisingly. Beartracks Mar 2022 #42
!!!!!!!! BobTheSubgenius Mar 2022 #44
As a matter of fact, it was indeed before January 2022 when I saw that! Beartracks Mar 2022 #46
Well, I was close. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2022 #51
The only problem DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #19
I worked it out Denverpops. Mes-tah-eh-hey-hey. PatrickforB Feb 2022 #22
Thanks DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #28
Don't know. Not sure how we will deal with our historic figures moving PatrickforB Feb 2022 #30
Past time to do this. PatrickforB Feb 2022 #21
Wonderful. SergeStorms Feb 2022 #25
They should really let the original native tribes to those areas decide on any name changes. cstanleytech Feb 2022 #26
This makes me happy! PLEASE NOTE: This wouldn't be happening if not for @POTUS @JoeBiden LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #29
I grew up thinking "squaw" was a legit word for a Native American woman. Beartracks Feb 2022 #31
Your assumption was right; it's been the usage by whites over the years that have made it offensive muriel_volestrangler Feb 2022 #34
You were and are completely correct. cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #35
It basically means obamanut2012 Feb 2022 #37
I used the word Oriental all the time. tavernier Feb 2022 #38
It used to be common and pretty much accepted, as far as I know. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2022 #45
My son did as well inthewind21 Mar 2022 #52
Whole bunch of Western movies will require bleeps to fix this. (nt) Paladin Feb 2022 #40

COL Mustard

(5,918 posts)
9. You know it wasn't always "Negro" Mountain
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 02:00 PM
Feb 2022

Somebody thought they were doing just fine with that one!

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
49. I know nothing of the naming history of this mountain
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 10:43 AM
Mar 2022

But maybe it has Spanish roots? Negro is the Spanish word for Black.

aggiesal

(8,922 posts)
10. How about renaming anything that's named ...
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 02:03 PM
Feb 2022

Ronald Reagan.
Airport and all Post Offices would be first in line.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
36. I think this is about removing actual offensive terms...
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 07:13 AM
Feb 2022

…not a political attack to remove names of politicians whom we don’t like. Not everything needs to be taken up a notch just to make it political.

This is why this country will never heal its division, as far as I can see. The first thought to add on to removing racist and bigoted terms, is to take it a step further and remove names of people on the other side of the political spectrum. We just want to “pull one over” on the other side to feel like we “got them”.

How about just be happy we are removing derogatory names and forget the added “wipe Republican names from the world because we put them in the same category as the n-word” add on idea?

NNadir

(33,541 posts)
11. Well, I happen to love Tahoe Palisades Bread, if that's what it's going to be called...
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 02:09 PM
Feb 2022

...but I didn't realize, probably because of familiarity - on reflection I can see why - that the term was derogatory.

I consider my consciousness to be raised by the Secretary of the Interior, for my betterment.

The bread should probably be called "Molasses Bread." It's delicious.

(I got married while staying in the Tahoe Palisades Resort.)

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
17. Soooo....
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 03:16 PM
Feb 2022

...it took until last November to catch up to the fact that "squaw" was derogatory? How is that possible? I figured it out for myself when I was a kid, and I can't remember it ever leaving my lips. Hopefully, it will be "the S word", if referring to is necessary or defensible.

*SMH*

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
20. I agree - they just didn't care.
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 03:39 PM
Feb 2022

Making groups "less than" is a pretty ubiquitous tactic. In Halifax NS, there was an area called "N_____ Hill" and I bet some still use that name.

A surprising number of AA/ACs in Halifax...but less surprising when you consider that it was a terminus for the Underground Railroad.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
19. The only problem
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 03:34 PM
Feb 2022

With renaming "Squaw" mountain here in Colorado, is they replaced it with a very long name which will be hard to remember, and even harder to pronounce, so many people will continue to call it by it's original name.........They could have done a better job of renaming on this one...............

I totally agree with the renaming, but just pointing out the reality of the situation on this one..............

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
28. Thanks
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 05:38 PM
Feb 2022

Thanks a bunch!

BTW: Did I hear that they are also going to rename the mountain next to Squaw, (Mount Evans) because he was bad also????????

PatrickforB

(14,586 posts)
30. Don't know. Not sure how we will deal with our historic figures moving
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 07:29 PM
Feb 2022

forward. I've often asked myself that, because to take an English example, consider Winston Churchill. He was an imperialist dick on one hand, and on the other guided the UK to victory against Hitler. And there's no way they would have won the war if the someone else had been named PM. History put him in the right place at the right time.

Now, look at Lincoln. A great president. Freed the slaves. Guided this nation through the nightmare crisis of Civil War - to victory. Really did a good job at that. But to the Indiginous Americans, not so much, because he literally opened the way west. Which, of course, led to genocide, and just a whole bunch of crappy, horrifying things like the Sand Creek and Wounded Knee massacres, and those schools back east where the army would round up all the kids on the res and force them into these boarding schools where they were forced to speak only English, and learn the white man's history and religion. If you read Robin Kimmerer's Braiding Sweetgrass, you will find out that only NINE Potawatomee elders even know their language because of that. And then look at all those skeletons they've recently found in those Canadian orphanages.

We can go through the same litany with Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, and so on. A few truly good people stand out - U.S. Grant for instance.

But yeah, I hear your frustration. Same thing with those Confederate statues. I was raised believing Lee and the rest of the Secesh were 'noble' warriors for a lost cause. You know, like the narrative at the beginning of Gone With the Wind. Oh, gosh, how wonderful the antebellum South was! Unless you were poor or black.

So again, I don't know where it will go. I do know we DO need to have these conversations, and maybe instead of putting guys like John Evans on a pedestal, we can see them for who they are. Evans was Colorado's second territorial governor. Unfortunately, he was one of the major instigators of the Sand Creek Massacre, when Army forces killed more than 200 Cheyenne and Arapahoe in Eastern Colorado. Evans was eventually forced to resign as governor after he refused to acknowledge or criticize what had happened. So we going to rename Mt Evans, then? It has hit a snag as you know...

Problem is, talking about this stuff, confronting it, makes many white people really uncomfortable. I know it does me, because I considered lots of these old white guys heroes in my youth. I mean I read book after book, about Kit Carson, Wild Bill, Sir Francis Drake, Cortez, Hudson, Grant, Lee, Washington, etc. And, since I came up in the 60s and early 70s, the biographical 'young adult' novels about these men definitely had a white male bias.

We've got to do it though. You know we do. This nation was built on slavery and genocide. It was. And we have to confront that, talk about it, and start trying to put policies in place that heal us all. When we do this, then the republic can actually become the light on the hill that we all know it can be. But not until. Not really.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,489 posts)
29. This makes me happy! PLEASE NOTE: This wouldn't be happening if not for @POTUS @JoeBiden
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 06:09 PM
Feb 2022



The agency said it has also begun tribal consultations.

"Words matter, particularly in our work to make our nation's public lands and waters accessible and welcoming to people of all backgrounds." Haaland said in Thursday's news release. "Throughout this process, broad engagement with Tribes, stakeholders and the general public will help us advance our goals of equity and inclusion."

A map created by the Names Task Force shows the locations requiring new names across the country. Places ranging from White Squaw Island in Maine to Squaw Hollow in Oregon will have to be renamed.

The department has already replaced the term with "sq_ _ _" in official communications.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
31. I grew up thinking "squaw" was a legit word for a Native American woman.
Sun Feb 27, 2022, 09:12 PM
Feb 2022

I assumed it came from some particular language or other, and was picked up from there to be used as a general term in the English language. I also thought of it as a passe' term that went out of use in modern times; thus, I think I only ever encountered it in western movies and some place names. But unlike the N-word, I never knew it was derogatory. Anyway... tells you how much *I* know. I'm really interested to see what new place names will replace it.

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muriel_volestrangler

(101,355 posts)
34. Your assumption was right; it's been the usage by whites over the years that have made it offensive
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 06:57 AM
Feb 2022

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Usage
Until relatively recently, the word squaw was used neutrally in anthropological and other contexts to mean a North American Indian woman or wife. With changes in the political climate in the second half of the 20th century, however, the derogatory attitudes of the past towards North American Indian women mean that the word cannot now be used in any sense without being regarded as offensive

Origin
Mid 17th century from Narragansett squaws ‘woman’, with related forms in many Algonquian dialects.

https://www.lexico.com/definition/squaw
 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
35. You were and are completely correct.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 07:07 AM
Feb 2022

It must be a western state thing because I am in the exact same boat.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
45. It used to be common and pretty much accepted, as far as I know.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:23 AM
Mar 2022

The definition of "orient" is to know your location in relation to the east. The counterpart of "Orient" is "Occident" and naturally, completely acceptable to use.

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