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blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 10:40 PM Mar 2022

'Shocking behaviour': Russian gymnast shows 'Z' symbol on podium next to Ukrainian winner

Source: The Guardian

Russian gymnast Ivan Kuliak, who sported an insignia linked to the invasion of Ukraine on a medals podium, had been called out for his “shocking behaviour”.

Kuliak’s shirt had the letter “Z” prominently placed as he stood next to Ukraine’s Kovtun Illia, the gold medallist at a Gymnastics World Cup event in Doha.

The “Z” has been seen daubed on Russian tanks and vehicles in Ukraine and has come to symbolise support for the invasion.

Kuliak had won the bronze medal on Saturday.

“The International Gymnastics Federation confirms that it will ask the Gymnastics Ethics Foundation to open disciplinary proceedings against Ivan Kuliak following his shocking behaviour at the Apparatus World Cup in Doha, Qatar,” a statement from the ruling body said.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/07/shocking-behaviour-russian-gymnast-shows-z-symbol-on-podium-next-to-ukrainian-winner



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'Shocking behaviour': Russian gymnast shows 'Z' symbol on podium next to Ukrainian winner (Original Post) blue-wave Mar 2022 OP
Some Russian athletes need to be disqualified Deuxcents Mar 2022 #1
Those Z markings are perfect to sight a Javelin anti-tank missile. TheBlackAdder Mar 2022 #14
Let's give them more, then Deuxcents Mar 2022 #20
"Kuliak's shirt had the letter "Z" left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #2
Prime example to..... FarPoint Mar 2022 #3
+1 dalton99a Mar 2022 #4
Ditto! BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #12
Int'l Gym Fed has banned all Russian and Belarussian athletes and officials GopherGal Mar 2022 #21
maybe he should be in the russian army... nt msongs Mar 2022 #5
Yes, blue-wave Mar 2022 #6
Was he tested for doping? Russian athletes shouldn't be allowed in international competition at all Walleye Mar 2022 #7
The Z is a good target. NT texasfiddler Mar 2022 #8
Yeah. So, like, the black power fist raise is considered too political? Martin68 Mar 2022 #9
Was the Black Power fist saying, I support the unprovoked murder of many thousands of people? keopeli Mar 2022 #13
Sorry, I guess my sarcasm was not detected as such. My comment was a reaction to punishment of Martin68 Mar 2022 #57
This "Z" is not a symbol of resistance. madaboutharry Mar 2022 #19
Completely different relayerbob Mar 2022 #50
It may as well BidenRocks Mar 2022 #10
Turn the Z on its side and you get an N...... N.Z..... Nazi. Fuck them. chowder66 Mar 2022 #11
It's Their Q FrankTC Mar 2022 #15
Yep Z equals Q live love laugh Mar 2022 #27
Is it not possible that he was forced to do this? luv2fly Mar 2022 #16
No blue-wave Mar 2022 #17
I'm sorry, but you don't know that luv2fly Mar 2022 #18
Just as you don't know blue-wave Mar 2022 #23
Absolutely, you are correct luv2fly Mar 2022 #24
And you're seeing the best??? Because?? blue-wave Mar 2022 #26
You don't know that he had a choice luv2fly Mar 2022 #31
You always... Wuddles440 Mar 2022 #38
Absolutely agree. ShazzieB Mar 2022 #45
Remind me again BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #22
Exactly Rebl2 Mar 2022 #51
Add those ROC medals to that too! BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #52
Easy fix for captured Russian tanks Bayard Mar 2022 #25
YES!!! GReedDiamond Mar 2022 #28
I'd say the article linked in the o.p. counts as a source. 😏 ShazzieB Mar 2022 #46
Sorry, dear Bayard Mar 2022 #55
Maybe it's the Z as in nazi. Jetheels Mar 2022 #29
That's what happens when you give a little boy a bunch of steroids. keopeli Mar 2022 #30
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So you like the russian mob? The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #35
WTF is wrong with you? LisaL Mar 2022 #36
WTF is wrong with you calm the F down. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #42
if they're a mobster, then convict them of a crime in court. Calista241 Mar 2022 #40
Yes that would be the right way to do it. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #43
So I guess internment camps for Japanese Americans were a pretty swell idea too eh? jcgoldie Mar 2022 #48
So where's the line? We send all the Russians 'home' even though America is PatrickforB Mar 2022 #34
Well that is the question and why I said we need to talk. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #37
Why wait until somebody sends you back? LisaL Mar 2022 #39
Why do you get so upset and serious. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #41
Sounds like you need to take your own advice. ShazzieB Mar 2022 #44
Posting something designed to stir people up, and then telling everyone to, in your niyad Mar 2022 #49
racist much? jcgoldie Mar 2022 #47
His expression - notinkansas Mar 2022 #53
THIS is the Z melm00se Mar 2022 #54
If he is so much in favor of invasion RocRizzo55 Mar 2022 #56

Deuxcents

(16,195 posts)
1. Some Russian athletes need to be disqualified
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 10:53 PM
Mar 2022

Their drug cheating n brutish attitudes are not signs of sportsmanship

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. "Kuliak's shirt had the letter "Z"
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 10:54 PM
Mar 2022
Kuliak’s shirt had the letter “Z” ... The “Z” has been seen on Russian tanks

FarPoint

(12,351 posts)
3. Prime example to.....
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 10:54 PM
Mar 2022

immediately band all Russians from all competitive international sports....all.... Use his name/photo as the "poster boy" as to why all russians are banned.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
21. Int'l Gym Fed has banned all Russian and Belarussian athletes and officials
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 12:23 AM
Mar 2022

... effective 07 March.

By the time they announced it, athletes were en route or had already arrived at this competition.

Also, the women's uneven bars medal ceremony was, er, interesting, as two Russian gymnasts placed first and second, with a Ukrainian in third.

That is exactly what occurred as Daniela Batrona took bronze while the two Russian gymnasts took the gold and silver. But what happened next was an unusual medal ceremony, if not one that was completely unprecedented in gymnastics history where the Ukrainian and Russian gymnasts were kept segregated.

Daniela Batrona walked out to collect her medal while draped in a Ukrainian flag. She stood on the podium in the bronze medal placement while she took her victory celebration. Daniela then walked off the podium after mounting it alone and disappeared from the ceremony. Only then could the two Russian gymnasts enter and accept their medals. The iconic moment where three competitors would all embrace on the top of the podium and pose for photos would not occur in uneven bars finals at 2022-Doha.

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
6. Yes,
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 11:00 PM
Mar 2022

send him to the front lines. He'd probably pee in his pants. But he's sooo brave with tape on his shirt.

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
57. Sorry, I guess my sarcasm was not detected as such. My comment was a reaction to punishment of
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 06:26 PM
Mar 2022

athletes for giving a black power salute, but none for wearing a "Z" in support of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Get it?

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
19. This "Z" is not a symbol of resistance.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 12:11 AM
Mar 2022

It is the exact opposite. It is a symbol of imperialism and the killing of innocent civilians, it is the like symbols worn by the Nazis.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
50. Completely different
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 11:32 AM
Mar 2022

This isn't "politics", it isn't a peaceful protest against living conditions, this is supprting an unprovoked, murderous invasion of a peaceful country.

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
26. And you're seeing the best??? Because??
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 02:00 AM
Mar 2022

He has a Russian war symbol taped to his chest, that represents the death of thousands of Ukrainians and the destruction of Ukrainian cities???

Wuddles440

(1,121 posts)
38. You always...
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 10:06 AM
Mar 2022

have a choice and must find the courage to decide between right and wrong. I've seen enough smirks in my lifetime to know that this little shit knows what he's doing and is an absolute punk. He looks like something Putin would use for recruiting his version of Hitler Youth.

ShazzieB

(16,382 posts)
45. Absolutely agree.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 10:54 AM
Mar 2022

He looks smirky af to me. I thought so before I read your comments. Now I know I'm not the on.y one who noticed.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
52. Add those ROC medals to that too!
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 12:07 PM
Mar 2022

The International Olympic Committee should remove all medals from Russians competing in the Chinese Olympics.

GReedDiamond

(5,311 posts)
28. YES!!!
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 03:26 AM
Mar 2022

That's what it means!

Is there a source for this, or is this just some kind of speculation?

It makes sense to me: Z=Zelenskyy.

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The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
42. WTF is wrong with you calm the F down.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 10:21 AM
Mar 2022

Apparently you do not like the free exchange ideas that this site provides.
If you don't like what I post don't read it.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
40. if they're a mobster, then convict them of a crime in court.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 10:12 AM
Mar 2022

Then you can deport them all you want after they've served their sentence.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
43. Yes that would be the right way to do it.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 10:24 AM
Mar 2022

How ever the world is close to another huge world war. Perhaps we need to push back even harder.
Russia is still not getting the message. Are they laughing at us?

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
48. So I guess internment camps for Japanese Americans were a pretty swell idea too eh?
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 11:10 AM
Mar 2022

This crap doesn't belong on DU.

PatrickforB

(14,571 posts)
34. So where's the line? We send all the Russians 'home' even though America is
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 09:38 AM
Mar 2022

their home.

Now what? The Mexicans? The Guatamalans? The Cubans? The African Americans? The Irish? Germans? Scottish? British?

Where are you going to stop?

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
37. Well that is the question and why I said we need to talk.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 10:00 AM
Mar 2022

I am ok with sending the Irish back. I am Irish. Free pub crawl.
I am pretty sure the Native Americans would like to see all the people you list sent back.
The russian mob is causing great harm in this nation. What I read is that there is only 400 - 500 Mexican mob members in the USA. FBI Director Louis Freeh stated that over 200 of Russia's 6,000-odd crime gangs operate with American counterparts in 17 U.S. cities in 14 states.
I think it is time to do something about russian mob crime. Russians have over 200 separate mob groups operating in coordination with russian mobs from russia.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
41. Why do you get so upset and serious.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 10:19 AM
Mar 2022

We have no control over this situation. My comments are all bull shit with no power. Calm the fuck down.

niyad

(113,278 posts)
49. Posting something designed to stir people up, and then telling everyone to, in your
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 11:14 AM
Mar 2022

words, "calm the f*** down", is deliberately provocative, not to mention almost comical in its obviousness.

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