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JT45242

(2,326 posts)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:08 PM Mar 2022

Ohio Republicans discussing impeachment of Chief Justice Maureen O'Connor after map ruling

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by JudyM (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Columbus Dispatch

House Republicans are discussing whether to impeach Chief Justice Maureen O'Connor after the Ohio Supreme Court rejected a third set of legislative maps and effectively ended all hope of a full May 3rd primary.

The court struck down the maps on Wednesday with O'Connor as the deciding vote, sending the Ohio Redistricting Commission back to the drawing board for the fourth time. A ruling on the latest congressional maps is expected any day.

O'Connor, a Republican, is seen as an independent voice on the court and sided with Democrat justices to throw out multiple sets of maps, arguing they did not comply with constitutional rules for redistricting. That's increasingly made her a target of fellow party members who contend she's shirking her responsibilities.

Read more: https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/03/18/ohio-republicans-want-impeach-maureen-oconnor-over-redistricting/7088996001/?utm_source=dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news_alerts&utm_term=news_alert&utm_content=OHIO-COLUMBUS-NLETTER01



So -- let me get this straight. No allegations of a crime. No misdemeanor. No ethics violations. She just ruled according to the laws of the state of Ohio and the US Constitution and legal precedent.

And the party of 'law and order' wants her thrown out.

She won't let them gerrymander democrats and minorities completely out of the power structure and they want her gone.

These are of course the same folks who supported all of Ohio's national Rethugs who refused to impeach and remove someone who committed ACTUAL CRIMES -- not once but twice.

The hypocrisy makes me want to vomit even though I am not at all surprised by it.
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Ohio Republicans discussing impeachment of Chief Justice Maureen O'Connor after map ruling (Original Post) JT45242 Mar 2022 OP
Are they going to fire Mikes Son, too? True Blue American Mar 2022 #1
Her only "crime" is not rubber stamping their FalloutShelter Mar 2022 #2
A good Republican, too! True Blue American Mar 2022 #4
You can impeach judges for rulings you don't like? Huh! Interesting. ck4829 Mar 2022 #3
"fellow party members who contend she's shirking her responsibilities" - responsibilities to party? bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #5
She stopped True Blue American Mar 2022 #6
This will just lend legitimacy to the notion of repairing the SCOTUS via adding more seats or some KPN Mar 2022 #7
If they impeach her for this ruling, isn't it incumbent upon them to impeach the other judges Midnight Writer Mar 2022 #8
As usual Ohio Republicans are just acting out LittleWoman Mar 2022 #9
The GOP believes in party first. Dawson Leery Mar 2022 #10
This is the perversion of the republican party. They tried the same thing with the recall of Newsom JohnSJ Mar 2022 #11
Are they going to start calling her Ham Sandwich O'Connor? jmowreader Mar 2022 #12
"And the party of 'law and order' wants her thrown out." BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #13
So what do you call the Ohio House Republicans......Fascists..... turbinetree Mar 2022 #14
Make a deal; rewrite the map with Jim Jordan OUT & we'll pass it. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #15
She's in the GQP. OneCrazyDiamond Mar 2022 #16
So why aren't they impeaching the justices who agreed with her? Raven123 Mar 2022 #17
They're NOT the party of law and order. Never have been. Never will be. paleotn Mar 2022 #18
Locking JudyM Mar 2022 #19

True Blue American

(17,998 posts)
1. Are they going to fire Mikes Son, too?
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:10 PM
Mar 2022

That stupid concealed gun law finished me. Took away any training.

Talk about Keystone Kops!

FalloutShelter

(11,930 posts)
2. Her only "crime" is not rubber stamping their
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:11 PM
Mar 2022

Plan.

True Blue American

(17,998 posts)
4. A good Republican, too!
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:13 PM
Mar 2022

ck4829

(35,099 posts)
3. You can impeach judges for rulings you don't like? Huh! Interesting.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:12 PM
Mar 2022

bucolic_frolic

(43,594 posts)
5. "fellow party members who contend she's shirking her responsibilities" - responsibilities to party?
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:14 PM
Mar 2022

A Justice responsible not to the law, but to party??

True Blue American

(17,998 posts)
6. She stopped
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:16 PM
Mar 2022

Their crooked dealings.

KPN

(15,685 posts)
7. This will just lend legitimacy to the notion of repairing the SCOTUS via adding more seats or some
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:26 PM
Mar 2022

other fix (impeach Kavanaugh and Barrett for example) if States start pulling this shit. We can't just let them pack State supreme courts too ... and will easily have a large majority of American voters supporting our side on that view.

Midnight Writer

(21,893 posts)
8. If they impeach her for this ruling, isn't it incumbent upon them to impeach the other judges
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:29 PM
Mar 2022

who ruled along with her?

LittleWoman

(260 posts)
9. As usual Ohio Republicans are just acting out
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:35 PM
Mar 2022

Justice Maureen O"Connor is retiring at the end of this year so this is merely a temper tantrum. If the Ohio Redistricting Commission had done their job properly none of this would have ever gone to the Supreme Court in the first place so this mess is really their own fault. The voters of Ohio passed an amendment two years ago setting out how redistricting was to be done, but once again the Republicans tried to game the system. Then again these are Ohio Republicans who have pretty much had their way since I have lived here (44 years) so why should they stop now. It looks like we will need to have a separate primary for the State legislative House and Senate probably some time in July. We will have a May primary for the other statewide offices and Congressional seats. The only upside I can see for that is all the obnoxious ads for the Republicans running for Portman's Senate seat will stop and there will be only one candidate for Senate running those terrible ads.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
10. The GOP believes in party first.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:42 PM
Mar 2022

Anyone who does not tow the line will be removed.

JohnSJ

(92,565 posts)
11. This is the perversion of the republican party. They tried the same thing with the recall of Newsom
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:50 PM
Mar 2022

here in California. It had NOTHING to do with anything illegal, but a political agenda.

Ironically, when multiple impeachable and criminal offenses were committed by trump, the republicans saw nothing wrong with that




jmowreader

(50,609 posts)
12. Are they going to start calling her Ham Sandwich O'Connor?
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:55 PM
Mar 2022

As we all know, Republicans will attempt to impeach a ham sandwich for the crime of being a ham sandwich…but attempting to impeach someone for the crime of not handing the state to the GOP on a silver platter is pushing it.

BumRushDaShow

(130,233 posts)
13. "And the party of 'law and order' wants her thrown out."
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 01:00 PM
Mar 2022

The GOP loons here in PA were trying to do the same thing back in 2018 when they finally threw out the gerrymandered mess that was the PA congressional map -

Pennsylvania Republicans lost the redistricting battle. Now, they’re declaring war on the courts.

By Christopher Ingraham
February 22, 2018


Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.) is one of a number of Pennsylvania Republicans exploring whether the state's Supreme Court justices should be impeached. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke, File)


Republican lawmakers from Pennsylvania who lost a gerrymandering case before the state’s Supreme Court are now calling for justices who issued the ruling to be impeached. The court ruled this year that the congressional map drawn by Republican legislators in 2011 was a partisan gerrymander that “clearly, plainly, and palpably” violated the state constitution, and the justices ordered the state’s legislature and governor to draw a new map.

Shortly thereafter, Republican state Rep. Cris Dush circulated a letter to his colleagues saying that the court’s majority “engaged in misbehavior in office” because the ruling “overrides the express legislative and executive authority” to create laws. “Wherefore,” Dush concluded, “each is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office and disqualification to hold any office or trust or profit under this Commonwealth.” For several weeks, Dush was the only lawmaker openly advocating this idea.

Then, after Pennsylvania's Republican legislative leaders and Democratic governor were unable to agree on a new map, the court stepped in and drew one of its own with the help of an independent redistricting expert from Stanford University. The court’s new map largely undid the Republican gerrymander, creating 10 Republican-leaning and eight Democratic-leaning House seats, as estimated using 2016 presidential election returns. Outside redistricting experts who were not involved with the case praised the new map, calling it “fairer” and “much more competitive” than the old one.

The new map is a better reflection both of the composition of the state’s electorate, which tends to be divided evenly between Democrats and Republicans, and of the traditional redistricting criteria used to draw maps in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. But because the 2011 Republican-drawn map was skewed so strongly toward the GOP, the net result is that Republicans are likely to lose three or more seats in the state’s House delegation. And now, the calls for judicial impeachment are growing louder.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/02/22/pennsylvania-republicans-lost-the-redistricting-battle-now-theyre-declaring-war-on-the-courts/


The net result of that final map (in 2018) was that the states delegation went from 13 (R) - 5 (D) to 9 (R) - 9 (D), so the GOP lost 4 seats here. The original map had been an extreme violation of the PA State Constitution that required that the districts be "compact and contiguous" and they were anything but.

Our state Supreme Court just did the same thing again this year after the census meant the state lost a seat as nationwide, the redistricting process was underway. The GOP loons tried to re-gerrymander the districts and refused to accept our (D) governor's map.

The court ended up simply slightly revising what they had already done a few years ago in order to eliminate a seat (in western PA where the population loss occurred) and re-balanced some of the districts in the east by slightly changing lines into adjacent counties to even out the numbers per district over here. The map they used was the one promoted by Marc Elias on behalf of Eric Holder's org - NDRC.




Marc E. Elias
@marceelias
🚨BREAKING: Pennsylvania Supreme Court ADOPTS new congressional map. Court selects maps put forward by our clients (Carter) as new statewide map!

Proud of the work @EliasLawGroup and @RedistrictFdn did to ensure fair maps in Pennsylvania.
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Carter v. Chapman ⚖️
Learn more.
11:29 AM · Feb 23, 2022

turbinetree

(24,752 posts)
14. So what do you call the Ohio House Republicans......Fascists.....
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 01:03 PM
Mar 2022

Or have billboard up what do you call the Ohio House republicans if they don't get there way and have baby crying on it....

oldsoftie

(12,686 posts)
15. Make a deal; rewrite the map with Jim Jordan OUT & we'll pass it.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 01:06 PM
Mar 2022

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
16. She's in the GQP.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 02:57 PM
Mar 2022

I honestly like it when they eat their own.

Raven123

(4,972 posts)
17. So why aren't they impeaching the justices who agreed with her?
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 03:48 PM
Mar 2022

paleotn

(18,018 posts)
18. They're NOT the party of law and order. Never have been. Never will be.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 06:13 PM
Mar 2022

They're the party of projection and bullshit. The party of thieving and lawlessness.

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
19. Locking
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:26 AM
Mar 2022

Consensus of the forum hosts is that “discussing whether to impeach" is not yet important enough for LBN, it belongs in GD. If / when it happens it would be important news of national interest.

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