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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,168 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 03:47 PM Apr 2022

Academy Bars Will Smith From Oscars Ceremony for 10 Years After Slap

Source: NYT

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences said on Friday that Will Smith would be barred from attending the Oscars for 10 years because of the “harmful behavior” he displayed when he struck the comedian Chris Rock during last month’s ceremony.

The ban came a week after the actor resigned from the organization following his violent outburst on the Oscar stage on March 27.

In an open letter released after a morning meeting of the academy’s 54 governors, the group’s president, David Rubin, and its chief executive, Dawn Hudson, also called Mr. Smith’s behavior “unacceptable” and admitted to not handling the situation properly during the telecast.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/academy-bars-will-smith-from-oscars-ceremony-for-10-years-after-slap/ar-AAW0t1A?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c64c2648ab55458d85a31ce2db9b1ea3

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Academy Bars Will Smith From Oscars Ceremony for 10 Years After Slap (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 OP
Seems Appropriate -NT- ruet Apr 2022 #1
Could have been worse whistler162 Apr 2022 #87
His Oscar should have been taken away. ificandream Apr 2022 #2
At a minimum it should not have been presented that night exboyfil Apr 2022 #5
Yes, I agree with your take. Let him keep it, but he should not have had that moment. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #9
Yes, he did earn the Oscar PatSeg Apr 2022 #16
He probably won't want to display it. Kablooie Apr 2022 #23
I totally could not believe that they went through with his award after that. Initech Apr 2022 #26
Along with Best Actress, it's the second biggest award of the night and they weren't 100% sure he Midwestern Democrat Apr 2022 #81
They don't know who wins until the prior year's Best Actress winner opens the envelope. Midwestern Democrat Apr 2022 #82
That is what I mean exboyfil Apr 2022 #83
I disagree because performance in the film is what earned him the award not his actions on the stage cstanleytech Apr 2022 #77
Will Smith ruined his years of hard work PJMcK Apr 2022 #3
Based on the coverage of Tiger's return to the Masters, I think his image has largely recovered. onenote Apr 2022 #30
smith isn't done by a long shot, but it will be very hard for him now to pick and choose his movies Javaman Apr 2022 #32
Golfers have a different standard. LiberalFighter Apr 2022 #37
That particular golfer certainly does. SergeStorms Apr 2022 #46
Conservative white guys love him and he's a Trump lover. BradAllison Apr 2022 #61
I guess. SergeStorms Apr 2022 #64
It is very hard to maintain a facade for ever. Sooner or later it is bound to crumble and break. Martin68 Apr 2022 #74
Seems about right. Hopefully he'll never do something that stupid ever again. Emile Apr 2022 #4
keep will smith's name out the f*cking oscars! unblock Apr 2022 #6
. Carlitos Brigante Apr 2022 #15
Lolololol! oldsoftie Apr 2022 #40
Ha! Dr. Strange Apr 2022 #92
Um.. BWdem4life Apr 2022 #7
I'm sure Sean Penn or George Clooney would have gotten the same punishment tenderfoot Apr 2022 #10
I think they'd have been taken right out of the ceremony. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #14
Regardless, they would have gotten the same 10 year ban. tenderfoot Apr 2022 #17
Penn's "self control" onenote Apr 2022 #31
I know about his history. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #38
I agree obamanut2012 Apr 2022 #67
I have wondered what would have happened to Wayne if been sucessful pulling Sacheen Littlefeather hlthe2b Apr 2022 #11
That is a great question Effete Snob Apr 2022 #59
Oh, I don't see that PatSeg Apr 2022 #12
Why? The black man he slapped deserves no consideration? BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #13
I didn't say that, don't put words in my mouth. Thanks n/t BWdem4life Apr 2022 #20
Did I? BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #39
less severe than practically nothing? unblock Apr 2022 #18
Look deeper. They're sending a message that he is persona-... brush Apr 2022 #29
I read he is worth 300 million Tree Lady Apr 2022 #50
Other fields are open to him I suppose. brush Apr 2022 #52
He did that part to himself already. His actions were plain to see. unblock Apr 2022 #65
Yes, he did it to himself. brush Apr 2022 #71
NO, you're not. LenaBaby61 Apr 2022 #19
I was a performer in that Academy award show. Kablooie Apr 2022 #27
The Whataboutism is strong with this one... regnaD kciN Apr 2022 #75
Will Smith received.... quickesst Apr 2022 #24
Very cute sarcastogram BWdem4life Apr 2022 #25
No, a white actor would have been treated differently obamanut2012 Apr 2022 #68
Whoopi Goldberg said they probably WOULD have forced Smith to leave, oldsoftie Apr 2022 #80
Yes obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2022 #35
I knew someone would bring it up eventually. And no. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #41
Yes, I think you are the only one. SergeStorms Apr 2022 #48
Funny BWdem4life Apr 2022 #51
I can't speak..... SergeStorms Apr 2022 #53
Well BWdem4life Apr 2022 #55
Do what you think is necessary. SergeStorms Apr 2022 #57
Second time someone's put words in my mouth BWdem4life Apr 2022 #70
lol obamanut2012 Apr 2022 #69
Very possibly. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2022 #58
yes, you are obamanut2012 Apr 2022 #66
I hope so Skittles Apr 2022 #89
So, now can we stop hearing about his public tantrum? PatSeg Apr 2022 #8
Celebrity/political/athletic worship has dumbed down our society year after year. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #43
I know PatSeg Apr 2022 #54
Not just one, and not just recently... regnaD kciN Apr 2022 #76
Good point PatSeg Apr 2022 #78
This is all so profoundly dumb greenjar_01 Apr 2022 #21
Well, he can save a lot of money. Kablooie Apr 2022 #22
TY, LMPV.. It's still surreal to me that Cha Apr 2022 #28
I have alopecia. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #42
I appreciate your input. I've thought the same; if it was SO bad she'd wear a wig. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #44
Thank you nt XanaDUer2 Apr 2022 #86
And must listen to 10 hours of Chris Rock jokes. Sneederbunk Apr 2022 #33
They will have to find someone else to give the best actress award question everything Apr 2022 #34
Kanye West may be available. Sneederbunk Apr 2022 #47
Big deal. BigmanPigman Apr 2022 #36
Not good enough The Grand Illuminist Apr 2022 #45
Smith will continue to get roles localroger Apr 2022 #49
His best bet for a come back is the MCU. The Grand Illuminist Apr 2022 #62
That's a very realistic suggestion localroger Apr 2022 #63
Agreed Sgent Apr 2022 #84
Prediction : He will be reinstated by next year's awards ceremony. bullwinkle428 Apr 2022 #56
SO you are saying they will increase the punishment! whistler162 Apr 2022 #88
Now ban him from the toxic narcissist he married Sympthsical Apr 2022 #60
that whole familly seems messed up Skittles Apr 2022 #90
Recommending with applause Drum Apr 2022 #72
Appropriate action for assault. I suspect Smith was ashamed of laughing at Rock's joke and had to Martin68 Apr 2022 #73
He should also be barred from being nominated for any award within those 10 years obamanut2012 Apr 2022 #79
This. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2022 #85
He gets 10 years ban from the Oscars for a slap. Jetheels Apr 2022 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Apr 2022 #93

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
5. At a minimum it should not have been presented that night
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 03:58 PM
Apr 2022

He should have gotten it in the mail with a note about not bothering to come back next year (or the next ten years I guess).

Until they pull Weinstein's and Polanski's, they shouldn't pull Smith's Oscar. He did earn that Oscar.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
9. Yes, I agree with your take. Let him keep it, but he should not have had that moment.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:07 PM
Apr 2022

Even though he ruined it lol.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
16. Yes, he did earn the Oscar
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:13 PM
Apr 2022

I don't think it should have been taken from him, but I agree, it shouldn't have been presented to him that night. The Oscar was for his work, not his disposition or behavior.

81. Along with Best Actress, it's the second biggest award of the night and they weren't 100% sure he
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 10:52 AM
Apr 2022

was going to be the winner (there have been surprises over the years), so they had to open the envelope and announce the winner - and since they didn't eject him from the auditorium, it would have been extremely awkward to have last year's Best Actress Winner announce his name and then - as Smith starts walking toward the podium - force her to say "Mr. Smith will be given his award backstage".

82. They don't know who wins until the prior year's Best Actress winner opens the envelope.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 11:12 AM
Apr 2022

You can't ask an actress/presenter to do the Academy's dirty work of telling Will Smith on live television "You won but you can't come up onstage to collect it". The big mistake that night was not removing Will Smith from the auditorium right after the incident.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
83. That is what I mean
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 11:26 AM
Apr 2022

He should have been escorted out and charged with Disturbing the Peace or Assault and Battery if Rock had filed a complaint.

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
77. I disagree because performance in the film is what earned him the award not his actions on the stage
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 02:36 AM
Apr 2022

when he chose to assault Chris Rock.
As for the 10 years? I would have gone a bit further and also made it so no production he is in any way a part of for the next 5 years will be eligible for an award.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
3. Will Smith ruined his years of hard work
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 03:52 PM
Apr 2022

By reacting violently and using foul language, Smith wasted many years of cultivating a "good guy" image. It will be monumentally difficult for him to recover unless he becomes a philanthropist.

In entertainment, like politics, image is everything. Once it's damaged, it's really hard to rebuild the original brand. Ask Tiger Woods, Mel Gibson or Andrew Cuomo.

Such stupid behavior!

onenote

(42,700 posts)
30. Based on the coverage of Tiger's return to the Masters, I think his image has largely recovered.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 05:28 PM
Apr 2022

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
32. smith isn't done by a long shot, but it will be very hard for him now to pick and choose his movies
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 05:37 PM
Apr 2022

no more will the plumb rolls be offered to him.

and if he ever regains any of his former stature, those rolls will be offered up to the new up and comers.

I worked in the movie industry for many years. I worked on a list productions and bottom of the barrel productions. and many of the bottom of the barrel productions featured very famous former A listers. who were humbled by time (and personal fuck ups)

he will still get work but it won't be anything he's used to.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
46. That particular golfer certainly does.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:35 PM
Apr 2022

They've been talking about his "courageous" recovery for the past two days now. They're making it sound like he was wounded in a righteous war, or he sacrificed his body catching a baby falling from a 10-story window. He totaled his car doing twenty miles an hour over the speed limit while not wearing his shoulder harness.

Woods has always been given the benefit of any doubt.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
61. Conservative white guys love him and he's a Trump lover.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:00 PM
Apr 2022

He's a "good 'un". Unlike LeBron James shooting his mouth off about BLM.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
64. I guess.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:13 PM
Apr 2022

If that's what it takes for Tiger to get him through the day.

He's earned every penny he ever made and he has nothing to prove to anyone, but I think he could choose a better bunch of friends.

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
74. It is very hard to maintain a facade for ever. Sooner or later it is bound to crumble and break.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:43 PM
Apr 2022
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
14. I think they'd have been taken right out of the ceremony.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:11 PM
Apr 2022

Right there and then.

Even Penn has more self-control though, so it’s a moot point.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
31. Penn's "self control"
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 05:34 PM
Apr 2022

n October 1985, Penn pled no contest to charges that he assaulted two journalists when they tried to photograph him and Madonna in Nashville in June 1985.[60] He was fined $50 on each of two misdemeanor charges of assault and battery.

In January 1986, Penn was charged for allegedly assaulting Leonel Borralho, Macao correspondent for the Hong Kong Standard newspaper, after he photographed Madonna and Penn as they arrived at their hotel room.

In June 1986, Penn was charged with misdemeanor battery for assaulting songwriter David Wolinski at Helena's nightclub in Los Angeles.[62] Wolinski said Penn accused him of trying to kiss Madonna. Penn pled not guilty to the charge.

In April 1987, Penn violated probation and was arrested for punching a film extra, Jeffrey Klein, on set of the movie Colors. Penn was sentenced to 60 days in jail for this assault and reckless driving in June 1987, of which he served 33 days.

In May 2010, Penn pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge stemming from an altercation with photographer Frank Mateljan in October 2009. He was sentenced to perform 300 hours of community service and undergo 36 hours of anger management counseling.


That history of violence didn't stop him from receiving Oscar nominations for the awards handed out in 1996, 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2009 (and winning in 2004 and 2009).

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
67. I agree
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:48 PM
Apr 2022

They would have been hustled out immediately, not allowed to rant from the floor, then the stage, and then be allowed to go to the parties and have fun, while his victim apologized.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
11. I have wondered what would have happened to Wayne if been sucessful pulling Sacheen Littlefeather
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:10 PM
Apr 2022

off the stage on behalf of the winner Marlon Brando in 1973.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
59. That is a great question
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 07:13 PM
Apr 2022

I guess they'd give him a badge and make him sheriff, like in the movies.

unblock

(52,206 posts)
18. less severe than practically nothing?
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:24 PM
Apr 2022

he gets to keep his oscar, he's fined nothing, he's not required to do anything in particular, and he's still eligible to be nominated and win future oscars.

he just can't vote or attend academy functions for 10 years.

i suppose they could have made it 5 or 3 years but merely not attending is a puny punishment for interrupting a live performance to commit a violent act on national television. he tarnished the name of the academy and aside from the attack on an academy presenter specifically, he jeopardized the health and safety of all future academy presenters (never mind that of comedians across the country).

the academy will have to review and step up security for future events because of this, at their own expense, and they're not asking will smith to chip in.


will smith got off with a slap on the cheek, um, wrist.

brush

(53,775 posts)
29. Look deeper. They're sending a message that he is persona-...
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 05:20 PM
Apr 2022

non-grata. Offers, roles, invitations will dry up. His career is severely damaged. Who wants to work with a potentially violent man?

Tree Lady

(11,457 posts)
50. I read he is worth 300 million
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:42 PM
Apr 2022

He can find something else to do, maybe volunteer he obviously doesn't need money.

unblock

(52,206 posts)
65. He did that part to himself already. His actions were plain to see.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:14 PM
Apr 2022

It might have been different story had the incident happened off-camera, backstage, with few witnesses.

The combination of letting him keep the Oscar after having let him onstage to accept it (which already was a huge mistake, which I think they agree in hindsight) sends the message that they do *not* want to impact his career any more than will smith himself already damaged it.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
19. NO, you're not.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:24 PM
Apr 2022

What Smith did was not right. Not one bit. But some of these folks saying that Smith should have been arrested, when cops on the regular are STILL getting away with murdering black people post George Floyd being murdered on FILM by ex-cop and now inprisoned Chauvin.


Thankfully, some intuitions have removed support from Wayne/his image/likeness over vile/racist remarks he made about blacks/native-americans during a 1971 Playboy interview. His son had nerve to say he was taken out of context, which is what most racists claim, even when it comes out of their OWN mouths and is ON FILM

USC Will Remove John Wayne Exhibit Due To Actor’s Racist Statements.

https://deadline.com/2020/07/john-wayne-racist-usc-exhibit-removal-black-lives-matter-1202982937/


https://vThe facts: But Wayne’s quote is real; it originally appeared in a May 1971 interview with Playboy magazine in which Wayne was responding to a question about whether Angela Davis, a counter-culture activist, communist and professor, was discriminated against by those who wanted to revoke her teaching credentials:

Wayne responded: “With a lot of blacks, there’s quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent, and possibly rightfully so. But we can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.”

When asked about his own hiring practices, Wayne said that while he did not discriminate against black actors or crew members, he didn’t seek them out either: “I’ve directed two pictures, and I gave the blacks their proper position. I had a black slave in The Alamo, and I had a correct number of blacks in The Green Berets. If it’s supposed to be a black character, naturally I use a black actor. But I don’t go so far as hunting for positions for them. I think the Hollywood studios are carrying their tokenism a little too far. …”

The Playboy interview contained one other quote that is frequently shared in meme form, Snopes.com reports. The quote was in response to Playboy’s question of whether Wayne felt any empathy for Native American for subordinate roles in Westerns:

“I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, if that’s what you’re asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.”


Kablooie

(18,631 posts)
27. I was a performer in that Academy award show.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:37 PM
Apr 2022

I was a Disney character and was in a dance number for Disney’s 50th anniversary.
I was sitting in the green room just about right underneath Sasheen Littlefeather when she gave her speech. We watched it on the TV monitor.

When we left that night John Wayne was by the exit doorway. He seemed in a good mood and said, “You kids did a great job.” As we left.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
24. Will Smith received....
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:30 PM
Apr 2022

.... the punishment he deserved from the academy. Thinking about it logically, why would the academy give a more severe punishment to someone because he is black for assaulting another person who happens to be black?

SARCASTOGRAM:
All those racists who sit on the board at the Academy Awards must have been twisting themselves in knots trying to figure out a way to not only punish one black man, but two black men at the same time. Unfortunately Smith got the brunt of it when the academy Award racists finally concluded there was no way out of this conundrum. One of the black men, to their dismay, would not be punished.

BWdem4life

(1,664 posts)
25. Very cute sarcastogram
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:34 PM
Apr 2022

Perhaps I'm the only one imagining a different possibility: What if a white actor had slapped Chris Rock? Still ten years?

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
68. No, a white actor would have been treated differently
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:53 PM
Apr 2022

They would have been hustled out immediately, not allowed to rant from the floor, then the stage, and then be allowed to go to the parties and have fun, while his victim apologized. Probably arrested, banned for at least ten years, probably for life.

They would have been pariahs immediately, and their career ruined. And, if their wife was laughing and applauding at Rock's attack like Jada did, she would have also been escorted out.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
80. Whoopi Goldberg said they probably WOULD have forced Smith to leave,
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 08:27 AM
Apr 2022

but were terrified of the optics of "removing the angry black man"
And she's probably right.
Had Sean Penn smacked George cloony I bet he would've been tossed.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
41. I knew someone would bring it up eventually. And no.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:25 PM
Apr 2022

I think the uproar would have been WORSE if he were a white man smacking a black man on worldwide TV.

BWdem4life

(1,664 posts)
51. Funny
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:45 PM
Apr 2022

So far the Black people I have discussed this with OFFLINE seem to think a white actor would have gotten a slap on the wrist.

So, I guess the answer is "Yes, on DU you're the only one thinking this."

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
53. I can't speak.....
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:52 PM
Apr 2022

for anyone else, but if you can find any website where White people support Black people more than we here on DU........

And as for the people you talk to OFFLINE, I can't speak for them either, but I believe they're mistaken.

Have a pleasant evening.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
57. Do what you think is necessary.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 07:05 PM
Apr 2022

Keep looking and I'm sure you'll find someone who agrees with you. Is it your goal to find others who believe people on DU are racists?

It seems fairly important to you that you do that for some reason.

You'll get nothing more on the subject from me. As I said before, have a pleasant evening.

BWdem4life

(1,664 posts)
70. Second time someone's put words in my mouth
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 09:24 PM
Apr 2022

(or thoughts in my head) on this thread.

I'll be leaving the thread now, bye.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
58. Very possibly.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 07:07 PM
Apr 2022

At the same time I think anyone who did this should be banned permanently, probably.

Maybe 20 yrs, something like that.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
8. So, now can we stop hearing about his public tantrum?
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:07 PM
Apr 2022

I never particularly cared one way or another about Will Smith and now I'd be very content to not hear about him for ten years or more.

I love movies, but the celebrity worship in this country has gotten ridiculous. It is no wonder that a lot of it goes to their heads, resulting in the belief that they are more important and entitled than they are. Perhaps this will be a humbling experience for Smith and an opportunity to reevaluate his choices and attitude.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
43. Celebrity/political/athletic worship has dumbed down our society year after year.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:27 PM
Apr 2022

Look who we "worship" the most; many times the WORST examples.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
54. I know
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:53 PM
Apr 2022

It is really depressing and probably helped contribute to a reality TV star occupying the White House for four years. Now we have people famous for just being famous.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
76. Not just one, and not just recently...
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:09 AM
Apr 2022

Can anyone pretend that Ronald Reagan would have been elected Governor of California if he hadn't been a Hollywood star? (We can also add Ahnuld, Clint Eastwood, Sonny Bono, Jesse Ventura, Jim Bunning, Tommy Tuberville, and others who have made the jump from celebrity to officeholder.) Until the country gets to the point where it's immediate reaction to an entertainment or sports star running for public office isn't "cool!" - we're going to remain in big trouble.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
78. Good point
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 07:09 AM
Apr 2022

Such people already had the advantage of name recognition, so it often gave them a head start politically. I was in California when Arnold was elected governor and it was so embarrassing.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
28. TY, LMPV.. It's still surreal to me that
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:52 PM
Apr 2022

this even happened. But since it did.. there has to be consequences.

As if Alopecia isn't hard enough.

💙💛

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
42. I have alopecia.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:26 PM
Apr 2022

Please. It’s not a disability as some keep trying to claim here. My doctor and my hairdresser are the only ones who know this.

I’m not a millionaire with all the options Pickett has, but even I don’t consider it a “hardship” for crying out loud.

There are people with real problems, and if this is the worst health problem I ever face, then I’ll be grateful. I’ve lost friends and family to cancer.

Just no.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
44. I appreciate your input. I've thought the same; if it was SO bad she'd wear a wig.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:30 PM
Apr 2022

Like so many other women do who don't even HAVE it.
I'm a person with Vitiligo. Like you said, if thats the worst health issue I have I will sure consider myself lucky. Even though it can be a pain explaining it to people sometimes!

question everything

(47,476 posts)
34. They will have to find someone else to give the best actress award
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 05:45 PM
Apr 2022

Usually it is the male winner from the previous year.

The Grand Illuminist

(1,331 posts)
45. Not good enough
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:31 PM
Apr 2022

If you are gonna do that then he should also be suspended equal amount of years from any and all consideration to be nominated for an Oscar.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
49. Smith will continue to get roles
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:40 PM
Apr 2022

...as long as he puts ticket-buying butts in theater seats and eyeballs in front of online services and pay TV. This will not affect that aspect of his career in any meaningful way.

The Academy is not pissed because he committed a crime against one of their other members. They aren't extra pissed because either he or Chris Rock is black. They're pissed because he made a big public mess on their very own red carpet and they have to clean it up. The ban is tailored to emphasize to him that this is what they are upset about.

Nobody wants to set the precedent of taking oscars away for off-screen and off-camera bad behavior because, let's face it, half the people in that room probably have skeletons in their closet big enough to threaten their legacy if that becomes the norm.

What will probably happen is Smith will find it very hard to win another Oscar no matter what movies he makes, since those are voted on by the other Academy members and as I mentioned before he took a big dump on their festive night of self-fellatio.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
63. That's a very realistic suggestion
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:09 PM
Apr 2022

He's been playing more cerebral dramatic roles lately, but he can probably improve his bank appeal by getting back to his action ID4-ish roots, just as Robert Downey Jr. did by playing Tony Stark.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
84. Agreed
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:07 PM
Apr 2022

The crime he committed is less than a DUI in almost all states, and he wasn't even arrested -- a good percentage of the audience probably committed that later in the evening. They aren't going to revoke prior awards for that.

The fact that he did it during prime time and during the awards is the thing that pissed off the Academy, and I'm honestly surprised at the 10yr ban (I thought it would be 5), but this is a real consequence for Smith. Smith has been trying to build a name for himself as a serious dramatic actor, and this means that he won't see those roles for at least 10 years.

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
60. Now ban him from the toxic narcissist he married
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 07:55 PM
Apr 2022

If you haven't seen it, this is what an abusive relationship looks like.



People don't much like discussing when men are in abusive marriages, but after everything that's gone on with these two the past four or so years, I'm hard pressed not to see that he needs an intervention and help.

She's just an awful person across the board.

"But her alopecia!" Yeah. That's like .1% of what's wrong with Jada.

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
73. Appropriate action for assault. I suspect Smith was ashamed of laughing at Rock's joke and had to
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:42 PM
Apr 2022

save face by being the Big Macho. I'd like to hear what his wife thinks.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
85. This.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:48 PM
Apr 2022

When I first heard the "punishment", I was thinking.....so what? At many Academy Awards shows there are actors who have previous engagements, or are overseas filming etc...even some of the winners are not there to accept a trophy in person.

The real punishment would have been a ban on winning any academy award for 10 years. Even then there is still the Golden Globes and Emmy's he can run for.

Seems its more about hitting at his ego, not being able to strut around in expensive clothes down the red carpet once a year.

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
91. He gets 10 years ban from the Oscars for a slap.
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 12:05 AM
Apr 2022

Insurrectionists get a slap on the wrist for trying to overthrow the government of the United States. Or trying to kidnap a Governor.

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