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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:12 PM Apr 2022

U.S. Envoys Blinken, Austin to Visit Ukraine, Zelenskiy Says

Source: Bloomberg

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said that U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin would visit Kyiv on Sunday, in what would be a risky show of support for Ukraine’s defense against Russia’s invasion.

“Tomorrow people from the U.S. are coming, I will meet the defense minister and the secretary of state, Mr. Blinken,” Zelenskiy told reporters on Saturday. “I think, we will be waiting when security will allow the president of the U.S. to come and support Ukraine’s people.”

It wasn’t clear if Zelenskiy’s disclosure was cleared with the Biden administration or if it would affect any travel plans. The White House and the State Department did not immediately comment.

The visits, if confirmed, would be the first by top U.S. officials to Ukraine’s capital since Russia invaded the country on Feb. 24. In March, Blinken briefly met with Ukraine’s foreign minister at the Ukraine-Polish border.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-23/top-u-s-envoy-blinken-to-visit-ukraine-sunday-zelenskiy-says

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U.S. Envoys Blinken, Austin to Visit Ukraine, Zelenskiy Says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 OP
This trip was supposed to be kept secret for obvious security reasons. former9thward Apr 2022 #1
For all we know BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #2
I doubt that but we will find out very quickly. former9thward Apr 2022 #5
"Presidents of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland head to Ukraine" speak easy Apr 2022 #3
You really equate the presidents of those countries former9thward Apr 2022 #4
No. I am making a statement about safety. speak easy Apr 2022 #7
So am I former9thward Apr 2022 #9
Just the opposite. speak easy Apr 2022 #11
+1 BeyondGeography Apr 2022 #12
There are more actors involved than just Russia. former9thward Apr 2022 #18
Zelinskiy is himself probably a more important target Kaleva Apr 2022 #28
Our allies would be happy to learn their leaders lives don't mean much Kaleva Apr 2022 #29
The Sec of State and Sec of Def have far, far more security than those individuals. former9thward Apr 2022 #30
Maybe but we can't argue our NATO allies lives are not as valuable Kaleva Apr 2022 #31
Lol...call the White House! BeyondGeography Apr 2022 #6
Then why didn't the White House and Pentagon announce the visits? former9thward Apr 2022 #10
Really? How do you know? Mysterian Apr 2022 #19
Know what? former9thward Apr 2022 #20
How do you know President Zelensky wasn't supposed to announce the visit? Mysterian Apr 2022 #22
Because both the White House and Pentagon refused to comment or confirm the trip. former9thward Apr 2022 #24
Post removed Post removed Apr 2022 #25
Well... BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #33
Maybe putin can show his mettle by announcing he will visit the US, France, UK, Germany, etc. erronis Apr 2022 #8
... for a friendly chat over drinks :) speak easy Apr 2022 #13
Here Vlad, have some tea. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2022 #21
The truth is we don't know if blue-wave Apr 2022 #14
I agree. nt BootinUp Apr 2022 #17
I'll bet that perked up Putin's ears ..... Lovie777 Apr 2022 #15
Nothing like Rebl2 Apr 2022 #16
No way Zelenskyy announces that without approval, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #23
You think they are going to fly them in, giving Russia appropriate notice? speak easy Apr 2022 #26
What will Russia do with F-35 escorts? gab13by13 Apr 2022 #27
That's how we got Yamamoto. Marcuse Apr 2022 #32

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
1. This trip was supposed to be kept secret for obvious security reasons.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:31 PM
Apr 2022

Zelensky told the world for his own purposes. Biden should cancel their visits.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
2. For all we know
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:44 PM
Apr 2022

they may have already been in-country for an assessment, recorded something for the media, and are on their way home.

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
3. "Presidents of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland head to Ukraine"
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:48 PM
Apr 2022
The presidents of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland are heading to Kyiv to meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

“On our way to Kyiv, to a city that has suffered terribly due to Russian war since my last visit,” Estonian President Alar Karis said on Twitter.

Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda said on Wednesday he was “heading to Kyiv with a strong message of political support and military assistance”.

https://www.polity.org.za/article/presidents-of-estonia-latvia-lithuania-poland-head-to-ukraine-2022-04-13

The visit of four heads of state was pre-announced.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
4. You really equate the presidents of those countries
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:56 PM
Apr 2022

with the heads of the two most powerful cabinet positions of the most powerful country in the world? I don't.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
9. So am I
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:05 PM
Apr 2022

The Sec of State and Def of the U.S. are a hundred times the target than the others you mentioned.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
18. There are more actors involved than just Russia.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:23 PM
Apr 2022

There can be groups and individuals happy to stir the pot.

Kaleva

(36,311 posts)
29. Our allies would be happy to learn their leaders lives don't mean much
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 11:44 PM
Apr 2022

When compared to the lives of US cabinet members

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
30. The Sec of State and Sec of Def have far, far more security than those individuals.
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:09 AM
Apr 2022

I suspect they know that.

Kaleva

(36,311 posts)
31. Maybe but we can't argue our NATO allies lives are not as valuable
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:26 AM
Apr 2022

as the lives of f US cabinet members

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
6. Lol...call the White House!
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:00 PM
Apr 2022

These visits and the re-opening of embassies are a deterrent for Putin to mess with Kyiv. Russian state TV in its infinite wisdom pisses and moans that they can’t nuke Zelensky without impunity now.

They should be as high-profile as is reasonably possible.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
10. Then why didn't the White House and Pentagon announce the visits?
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:07 PM
Apr 2022

They are both giving "no comment" after the Zelensky announcement. The White House was called and obviously not happy.

Mysterian

(4,588 posts)
22. How do you know President Zelensky wasn't supposed to announce the visit?
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 07:58 PM
Apr 2022

You know, the claim you made in the post I responded to. Hope it helps!

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
24. Because both the White House and Pentagon refused to comment or confirm the trip.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:20 PM
Apr 2022

After being asked about it by the media after Zelensky made his announcement.

Response to former9thward (Reply #24)

erronis

(15,303 posts)
8. Maybe putin can show his mettle by announcing he will visit the US, France, UK, Germany, etc.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:03 PM
Apr 2022

Somehow I think that bunker-boy doesn't want to chance an unfortunate Lemony Snicket event. Such as polonium being being found in his tea. Or novichok on his door-handle. Or open windows. Or poison darts.

This bunker-boy (like his boyfriend in tfg) only wants personal comforts and trusted food tasters.

Strange that the MAGA crowd like such flawed vermin.

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
14. The truth is we don't know if
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:46 PM
Apr 2022

Zelenskiy was approved by the White House to announce this or not. They might have already visited Kyiv, they might not have. They could be there at this moment or not. And maybe they will visit at a later date.

Let's see what happens and pray everyone is safe.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
23. No way Zelenskyy announces that without approval,
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:04 PM
Apr 2022

I think it's a smart move, if anything happens it will be a deliberate act. If it was a secret and something bad happened, Russia would have plausible deniability, ball is in tough guy Putin's court. Plus, if missiles are fired at Blinken and Austin, there are going to be F-35's patrolling Ukraine.

No way in hell anything happens to the plane bringing Austin and Blinken, there will be plenty of US fighter jets escorting the plane.

How they get to the meeting will be kept a secret. They meet in an underground bunker, it would take a huge bomb to penetrate it and I'm sure the US is patrolling the skies.

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