US scientists say Sarin gas blamed for Gulf War syndrome
Source: BBC
US scientists say they have discovered what caused thousands of soldiers who served in the 1991 Gulf War to fall sick with mysterious symptoms. They have pinned the blame on the nerve agent sarin, which was released into the air when caches of Iraqi chemical weapons were bombed. Many veterans have complained of a range of debilitating symptoms which developed after their service. But for decades the cause of Gulf War Syndrome has remained elusive.
Sarin is usually deadly, but lead researcher Dr Robert Haley said the gas that soldiers were exposed to in Iraq was diluted, and so not fatal. "But it was enough to make people ill if they were genetically predisposed to illness from it." Dr Haley said the key to whether somebody fell ill was a gene known as PON1, which plays an important role in breaking down toxic chemicals in the body.
His team found veterans with a less effective version of the PON1 gene were more likely to become sick. The latest study - largely funded by the US government - involved more than 1,000 randomly-selected American Gulf War veterans. Dr Haley, of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, said: "This is the most definitive study. "We believe it will stand up to any criticism. And we hope our findings will lead to treatment that will relieve some of the symptoms."
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VMA131Marine
(4,139 posts)we knew Saddam had Chemical weapons, not the second one when we invaded because we claimed he still had them.
Republicans are going to be confused.
Ford_Prefect
(7,897 posts)along with other war related damage.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)By Eric Schmitt, Special To the New York Times
Jan. 30, 1991
(snip)
Iraq's major nuclear, chemical and biological production plants were targeted in the first raids, American military officials said, to insure that they would be destroyed even if President Saddam Hussein complied quickly with the United Nations resolution commanding him to leave Kuwait.
Intelligence analysts said that Iraq's two nuclear reactors, Tammuz II and IRT-T2000, were destroyed, as were nuclear fuel enrichment test laboratories at Zafaranya, south of Baghdad, and Falluja, west of the capital.
Chemical weapons plants were also hit hard in the initial raids by F-111 and F-117A fighter bombers, as well as by sea-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles.
Military intelligence analysts say the damaged or destroyed chemical plants were in Salman Pak and Samarra, outside of Baghdad, as well as in Al Qaim, near the Syrian border.
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/30/world/war-gulf-weapons-search-destroy-priority-unconventional-iraqi-munitions.html
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)on the many things wrong with him physically. He attributed it all to Gulf War 1, the VA just kept throwing pills at him.
He died of an overdose at age 60.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)So much despair.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)Botany
(70,504 posts)EX500rider
(10,848 posts)The Iraqi's used German built pesticide factories to make their chemical/biological weapons I believe.
Regular production of sarin chemical weapons ceased in the United States in 1957, though existing stocks of bulk sarin were re-distilled until 1970.
Most Iraqi precursors for chemical weapons production came from Singapore (4,515 tons), the Netherlands (4,261 tons), Egypt (2,400 tons), India (2,343 tons), and West Germany (1,027 tons). One Indian company, Exomet Plastics, sent 2,292 tons of precursor chemicals to Iraq. Singapore-based firm Kim Al-Khaleej, affiliated to the United Arab Emirates, supplied more than 4,500 tons of VX, sarin and mustard gas precursors and production equipment to Iraq.[35] Dieter Backfisch, managing director of West German company Karl Kolb GmbH, was quoted by saying in 1989 that "for people in Germany poison gas is something quite terrible, but this does not worry customers abroad."
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Why weren't the troops protected?
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)They didn't provide enough gas masks?
melm00se
(4,992 posts)enough to prevent sarin exposure.
In addition to inhalation, sarin can be absorbed thru the skin so protection against it is the full MOPP set up.
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Crazyleftie
(458 posts)munitions that we were using?
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Don't worry there was nothing wrong with Agent Orange either.
This is so wrong.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)That it took them this long to check for that is unacceptable.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)What our government did to the Vietnam vets who were exposed to Agent Orange is completely FUBAR.
Now our government has done it again.
Our treatment of veterans is just not right.
This is an issue I blame both parties for. However I am of the opinion the Democrats do way more for Veterans.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)Operation Ranch Hand was the name for the agent orange program in Vietnam. They knew, they just didnt care.
In 1988, Dr. James Clary, an Air Force researcher associated with Operation Ranch Hand, wrote to Senator Tom Daschle, When we initiated the herbicide program in the 1960s, we were aware of the potential for damage due to dioxin contamination in the herbicide. However, because the material was to be used on the enemy, none of us were overly concerned. We never considered a scenario in which our own personnel would become contaminated with the herbicide.
https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/vietnam-war/agent-orange-1
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)The Vietnam vets are an example of the government knowing what they did to veterans and ignoring it. The Vietnam veterans fought for years to get funding to help with their illness An illness we knew was caused by Agent Orange. We ignored them.
Which is what the government is trying to do to the first Iraq war vets who have Gulf War syndrome. It is real and I say our government knew it was all along.
What you have posted is even more disturbing. It represents a clear acknowledgement that we used chemical warfare on enemy soldiers and citizens in Vietnam. We knew Agent Orange did more than kill plant life! Is it any different than small pox blankets? I am not out to bash America. But I am not about to ignore our factual history.
From your reference.
Fred A. Wilcox, author of Scorched Earth: Legacies of Chemical Warfare in Vietnam, told the Vietnamese news source VN Express International, The U.S. government refuses to compensate Vietnamese victims of chemical warfare because to do so would mean admitting that the U.S. committed war crimes in Vietnam. This would open the door to lawsuits that would cost the government billions of dollars.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)Gulf War syndrome isnt the same thing. A lot of the symptoms match those of PTSD. I dont know of any substance tests that look at specific genetics when assessing for toxicity. Its just recently genetics has been considered for medication. Think of the tamoxitest prior to prescribing tamoxifen. They dont do it at all for psychotropics.
The test will be how quickly they do genetic testing for those with Gulf War Syndrome.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)My first post was.
Oh sure they just figured this out.
I stand by that and do not believe they just figured out the genetics connection of this.
Perhaps I am just very cynical. Which is what happens when you get 66 notches.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)Duppers
(28,120 posts)K&R
Duppers
(28,120 posts)K&R