Democratic Sen. Manchin joins GOP to block abortion rights bill that would codify Roe v. Wade

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: CNBC

Democrat Joe Manchin joined Republicans to block a bill Wednesday that would make the Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision law, dealing a setback to Democrats who are scrambling to preserve protections that the Supreme Court could soon toss out after nearly five decades. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer forged ahead with a vote on the Women’s Health Protection Act of 2022, even though he knew it was doomed to stall.

The New York Democrat aimed to put every senator’s stance on the record after a draft court opinion that would overturn Roe leaked — inflaming the national abortion rights debate and energizing Democrats for November’s midterm elections. All Republicans in the Senate, which is split 50-50 between the GOP and Democrats, voted against advancing the bill Wednesday — leaving it short of the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster and allow a vote to proceed. Manchin of West Virginia, also opposed the measure.

“Tens of millions of women are watching what will happen to the rights they’ve relied on for decades, and all of us will have to answer for this vote for the rest of our time in public office,” Schumer said Wednesday on the Senate floor ahead of the vote. The bill would bar states from banning abortion before fetal viability — generally considered 24 weeks — and in certain cases after that point when a medical provider determines a pregnancy poses a risk to a person’s health.

It would also stop states from taking steps to limit access to certain drugs and abortion services, and ban governments from requiring medically unnecessary doctor’s visits. Democrats appear to have no path toward passing the bill, or a similar measure to cement federal abortion rights, unless they scrap the filibuster for legislation. Doing so would require only 51 votes to pass bills. At least two Democratic senators, Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, have signaled they will not vote to get rid of the filibuster.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/11/senate-to-vote-on-roe-v-wade-abortion-rights-bill.html

[BradAllison]

1. On record, Joe Manchin is anti-woman

Alert on me, Team Mansion.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. I was checking the House vote on this bill, which passed there before ending up in the Senate

And you can add the lone Democrat in the House who voted Nay -

Cuellar Democratic Texas Nay

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2021295

(there were 3 Not Voting for that in the House (2 (R)s + 1(D))

[BradAllison]

10. He can go as well

In a plus 5 Dem district, it's a shame to watch Clyburn stump for him. Never mind he's being investigated.

[BumRushDaShow]

12. He was part of the Bart Stupak group who held the ACA hostage for their anti-choice demands

I had posted about earlier (some of it posted below) - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16661638

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Could Issue of Abortion Derail Health Care Bill?

Rep. Stupak says he won't vote for bill if it contains Senate abortion language.

By HUMA KHAN
March 4, 2010, 6:40 AM


WASHINGTON, March 4, 2010— -- Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., today said he and 11 other House members will not vote for the health care bill unless it includes more stringent language to prevent federal funding from going toward abortion services. "We're not going to vote for this bill with that kind of language," Stupak told "Good Morning America's" George Stephanopoulos today, referring to the Senate health care bill, which includes less restrictive language than what the Democratic lawmaker proposed in the House.

Stupak said he is willing to take the criticism that will be hurled at him if he blocks the bill because of the abortion language, but that he won't back down on his principles. "I want to see health care pass. I agree... people are being priced out of the market. We must have health care but, boy, there are some principles and beliefs that some of us are not going to pass," he said. "We're prepared to take the responsibility. I mean, I've been catching it ever since last fall. Let's face it, I want to see health care. But we're not going to bypass some principles and beliefs that we feel strongly about."

The ongoing abortion debate threatens to stall the health care bill and reflects the deep divide among Democrats. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs today said the president would like to see the House pass the health care bill before he departs for his international trip on March 18, but that does include passing the "fixes" that the White House has proposed.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., today said that the bill makes no changes to the existing law on abortion.

"There is no change in the access to abortion, no more no less. It is abortion neutral," Pelosi told reporters. "If you believe that there should be no federal funding for abortion, and if you believe that there should be no change in policy... we will pass the bill." Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius told Stephanopoulos on "GMA" that the bill is not about abortion, but about changing the health care system to ease the burden on families and small businesses facing skyrocketing insurance premiums.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/HealthCare/abortion-issue-derail-obama-democrats-health-care-efforts/story?id=10006591

Below were some remaining post-ACA after trying to torpedo the ACA to forbid abortion services (bolded are still sitting members of Congress) -

Colin Peterson MN-07
Jim Cooper TN-05
Dan Lipinski IL-03
Stephen Lynch MA-08
Sanford Bishop GA-02
Jim Costa CA-16
Henry Cuellar TX-28
Jim Langevin RI-02
Tim Ryan OH-13
Richard Neal MA-01
Marcy Kaptur OH-09
Mike Doyle PA-14

(Tim Ryan is running for Senate now)

Of that above list, the others apparently did vote for the Women's Health Protection Act of 2021 except Cuellar.

[Budi]

13. Who gifted them this unbelievable opportunity.

Own it.

Happy?
Burned down enough for y'all?

Wait! ..There's more to come!

Choose your fav whipping dog of the day.
But in the end it all lands back on the fated 2016 bullshit.

Own it.
Enjoy your free shit.

[BradAllison]

14. WTF are you yapping about????

I voted happily for Hillary Clinton. I fucking RAN to the booth to vote for her.....

Joe Manchin is the "no free shit" guy, because "they'll probably use it for drugs". Meanwhile mothers are suffering in West Virginia because he needed to kill the nutty left wing bill proposed by "whacko far leftist Joe Biden".

Own it, indeed. No free shit!!!!!!

I suppose now with Abortion banned, there will be nothing for all these unwanted children. Great plan.....no free shit!!!!!


"They'll use it for drugs", man you must be so proud of that guy.

[Budi]

23. That guy was nobody till he was gifted the opportunity.

Burn it all down, they screeched.
Planned Parenthood is ESTABLISHMENT! they said.

Own it.

[gldstwmn]

19. We had the whole enchilada in 2008 but we were still under the deluded notion of trying to work with

them and protecting the Obama presidency. The question is what were we protecting it from? That was a real head scratcher. Then we promptly lost the House and were kneecapped at every turn thereafter. People thought we were being too critical of Bush after 9/11. Pffft. The beginning was 2001. They were emboldened.

[Budi]

25. And the end was 2016.

[czarjak]

42. Might makes right. Right?

[walkingman]

2. I wish Manchin and Sinema nothing but misery in their coming years.

[moose65]

32. Sinema is horrible...

But she DID vote yes on this one. Manchin is the only Dem turncoat.

[walkingman]

33. Thanks for the info.....

[Joinfortmill]

37. May they reap what they have sown.

[NewHendoLib]

3. So, Manchin is a Democrat????

[Autumn]

4. This is what we get when we focus on red states.

[Emile]

5. LOL

[BumRushDaShow]

9. I suppose if he wasn't

then Turtle would have been in charge and this bill would have never even seen the light of day because he would have been Majority Leader and controlling the floor business.

Time to get some more progressive Senators in (working on it here in PA).

[MyMission]

45. He claims to be, but

There are many who would say that's debatable, and explain or argue that he's not a team player for the dems...just not here on DU. No bashing Dems, even if we argue he's not really one, he is member of the Democratic party. So we must be circumspect in our comments and disdain.

Of course you knew that!
Your comment made me smile.

[NewHendoLib]

47. .

I am more than willing to get a hidden post for calling it like it is!

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. Manchin continues to demonstrate he is a fine statesman who upholds Democratic values

…because that’s all his fan club will allow me to say here.

[gldstwmn]

20. He has fans?

[Fiendish Thingy]

26. Manchin's Fan Club is quite active here on DU

Maybe not in posts, but in other ways…

[gldstwmn]

30. Bless their hearts.

[FoxNewsSucks]

41. They have hearts ?

[Haggis 4 Breakfast]

44. Anybody who is a "fan" of Joe Manchin

is NOT a democrat, because HE is NOT a democrat. His voting record and his inane comments prove that again and again. He is a phony and a fraud. He has bent over so far for the coal industry, that his face in on the floor. He cares only about his donors and nothing about his constituents. WHAT has he done for W VA ?? . . . . crickets . . . . Yet he drives around in a Maserati (or is it a Lamborgini ? I forget.) to and from his yacht. He is completely removed from the people of W VA, one of the poorest states in the country. Don't just take my word for it. Google their mortality rate (especially for people of color. Then check out their pregnancy mortality/infant death rate.) Their poverty rate. Their medium income. Their unemployment. Their shitty health care. Need I go on ?

I am so tired of him playing god.

[dalton99a]

31. Nobody respects women more than Joe Manchin.

[BlueIdaho]

8. Let it be told to all the nation

Joe ManChin is anti-woman.

[Joinfortmill]

36. 👍

[czarjak]

43. Gayle Manchin probably disagrees.

[BlueIdaho]

55. And Pat Nixon

Thought her husband was no crook.

[SheltieLover]

11. Senate should have codified Roe BEFORE protecting SC "Justices"

[BradAllison]

16. They should have codified it in 1992

[SheltieLover]

17. Of course

Buf why give qpukes protection against sidewalk chalk & get nothing in return?

[BumRushDaShow]

22. Still needed 60 votes for cloture back then

https://www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm

102nd Congress (1991–1993)

Majority Party: Democrats (56 seats)

Minority Party: Republicans (44 seats)

Total Seats: 100

[Snackshack]

15. Who do you think that was...

"all 50 Republicans and one of the 50 Democrats voted not to consider the legislation."

This person continuously torpedoes Democratic legislation, yet people will continue to argue that the Dems must not upset Joe and lose him to the GOP.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. Interestingly enough

Sinema voted for it.

(although she knows what is holding it up for final debate and passage)

[Budi]

29. Because when the fragile balance we have is gone, so goes everything else.

[PortTack]

18. And manchin has one more really nasty trick up his sleeve

Post midterms, if we end up with 51 senators, which it looks like we will, maybe 52, he will switch his party alliance cutting us back to a 50/50 scenario. And…once again giving the big Fu to the Dems

[clementine613]

21. He needs to be jailed, along with the rest of the Rethugs

... for trying to enslave women and minorities.

[DownriverDem]

27. To get the

MAGA repubs on record. Manchin is up in 2024 BTW.

[Budi]

28. 2016 Supreme Court.

Who didn't here it? Why Not?
Who refused to even speak it?
“In a single term, the Supreme Court could demolish pillars of the progressive movement. And as someone who has worked on every single one of these issues for decades, I see this as a make-or-break moment.” - @HillaryClinton in March 2016.

Link to tweet

Not a murmur of ownership today. Not an apology to the generations who are yet too young to vote.
Just laughed & pissed on that torch we gave you to pass on.
Not a single word..

Everyone's to blame but those who brought this down without a consideration

[Joinfortmill]

35. She should have been our President.

[Budi]

38. Thank Stein for throwing the electoral which gave us this hard Right christofascist SC.

Here's her campaign mgr after the loss of our SC to trump

Talk about fucking hubris.. Just absolutely no shame. And she did it again in 2020.
This is how Stein's campaign mgr responded to the blowback after Trump won the electoral vote.
BJG had stated the SC was not a concern during that election.
Here's who she blamed for her own words.
Yup. HRC supporters were '100% wrong' on importance of the SC.

Following the Stein success in denying our fair SC, BJG went on to work for the Sanders campaign in 2020.



This is all now in the history books to re-examine.
And especially on this tragic day of such avoidable massive loss for human rights.

[Joinfortmill]

34. Manchin is a Democrat in name only.

[24601]

40. If he was only in name, he would have caucused with the Republicans and McConnell would be majority

leader, controlling the entire Senate agenda. Who wants that?

[DonCoquixote]

48. if the gop gets everything they want

then what purpose is hoist being a democrat?

[867-5309.]

39. Would a carve out exception to the filibuster be possible

if we included the provisions sought by Collins and Murkowski?

[qazplm135]

46. If he were being honest

he would have simply volunteered to either write the bill or worked with them to get a bill he could sign.

But WHATEVER bill was put forward, he would have found an objection to.

[Polybius]

49. Dupe

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142915272

[BumRushDaShow]

51. The actual vote didn't conclude until right before this OP was posted

and as we know, something that "hasn't happened yet" does not meet the criteria of "LBN".

Roll Call Vote 117th Congress - 2nd Session
XML Vote Summary

Question: On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed (Motion to Invoke Cloture Re: Motion to Proceed to S. 4132 )
Vote Number: 170
Vote Date: May 11, 2022, 03:33 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2
Vote Result: Cloture on the Motion to Proceed Rejected
Measure Number: S. 4132
Measure Title: A bill to protect a person's ability to determine whether to continue or end a pregnancy, and to protect a health care provider's ability to provide abortion services.
Vote Counts:
YEAs49
NAYs
51

*Information compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate bill clerk under the direction of the secretary of the Senate


https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00170.htm

The vote commenced at 3:33 pm EDT and was concluded at 4:24 pm EDT - https://www.c-span.org/video/?520094-1/senate-votes-block-bill-codifying-abortion-rights

Of course we knew what the outcome would be in any case because this is the SECOND time this cloture vote was held. The last time was back in February when the House version failed at that time (but then there were 6 Senators who were unable to vote too).

[OverBurn]

50. It's always seemed Manchin is paid off, you'd think someone could pay off a few on the other side?

[The Wizard]

52. Manchin's vote on this bill

is inconsequential because of the filibuster. He's the difference between McConnell being Senate Majority leader or remaining Minority Leader. That is the reality of minority rule because of the Senate, voter suppression and gerrymandering.

[SKKY]

53. Ok, so here's what we need to do. Tomorrow bring up a "Clean Bill" to codify Roe...

...and call his bluff. If it passes, not even mentioning having to get past an inevitable Republican filibuster, then we've protected Roe and we can then go about making it better. I just think we're letting perfection be the enemy of good enough here when what we really need is a victory for our side, and an L we can hang on the Republicans. But, I'm just an IT security guy. What do I know?

[PoliticAverse]

54. It still would only have 50 votes (maybe 52 with 2 Republicans) not the 60 needed for cloture.

This was a vote on ending debate...- that is on ending the filibuster.