'Let Someone Whack You': Russian Troops Are Now Deliberately Wounding Themselves to Get Out of
Source: Daily Beast
Let Someone Whack You: Russian Troops Are Now Deliberately Wounding Themselves to Get Out of Putins War
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I had a commander
who shot himself in the leg just to get out of here. And that was in the very beginning! What is there to talk about? He served in Chechnya.
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The tapped phone chat was not the only one to suggest Russian troops are taking desperate measures to escape the war. In a similar recording released by Ukrainian intelligence Friday, a woman identified as the wife of a Russian soldier urges him to fall off a tank.
Theres no way out, she says. Otherwise you will be there until September
They will not swap you out, because everyone is refusing.
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His wife argues a fall from a tank is just one option. You just dont need to shoot yourself in the leg, because who the fuck knows how that would end. Or let someone whack you on your side, she says, so that his kidneys would get injured. I dont fucking know! Because youd be able to go home straight from the hospital.
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Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-are-now-deliberately-wounding-themselves-to-get-out-of-putins-war/
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Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)paleotn
(17,989 posts)Warpy
(111,359 posts)as a caution to other fools who play Wild West with loaded guns.
The problem is powder burns from close range shots, Russian doctors will spot those every time and the poor sap will be out of the war but in a Russian prison.
Better to stick your non dominant hand or maybe a foot out of a foxhole or trench and let Ukraine do the job.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)He was among a group of mine sweepers near the Cambodian border who played a "hot potato" game of sorts with blasting caps when they had some spare time in base camp. If the cap exploded in a soldier's hands, he'd lose a finger or two, but would get sent to hospital for a few weeks to recover. Those few weeks in recovery, in exchange for a lost finger or hand, was seen as worth the injury.
War is horrific, no matter who is fighting in it.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)Its good that they didnt fucking toss the grenades, because when the guys went in there were four little kids sitting there.
PatSeg
(47,613 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Grokenstein
(5,727 posts)Back in the '70s, there was a story in one of DC's WWII comics that always stuck with me: "And Fear Crippled Andy Payne," in which a very young naval seaman, traumatized by all the deaths he has witnessed, mutilates his own hand with a meat cleaver to get out. (The final page of the comic can be found at the link. It's not graphic--'70s comic books under the Code, after all--but I can't directly link to the image without it automatically triggering a download. Just Crtl-F and search for "Payne." )
IronLionZion
(45,541 posts)TeamProg
(6,254 posts)paleotn
(17,989 posts)few Russian ground pounders are going to push things tactically on the battlefield for fear of needlessly being maimed or end up KIA. In fact, they're more apt to give ground to save their own skins. Russian morale and esprit de corps has been running on fumes from the start. Those are the things that overcome the natural urge to "get the hell out of here!!" when things get really hot. The things that win battles as much as bullets and shells. I've heard the Russians have been shooting their own skulkers and stragglers. That can only work to a point. Stalin finally figured that out.
Joinfortmill
(14,468 posts)FakeNoose
(32,777 posts)... perhaps because there are no mobile medical facilities to treat them.
So shooting oneself in the leg doesn't get you an automatic trip home.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216694180
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/uq18zl/russian_pow_tell_stories_of_how_their_commanders/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Translation:
1: The guys are telling us how their own wounded men would get finished off
🇺🇦: what do you mean finished off?
1: just like that, a wounded soldier is laying there and the commander of the battalion just shoots him with the gun and thats all.
1: young guy, wounded laying on the ground. Commander asks him can you walk? No? He just took out his gun and shot him.
2: not even just one. the important part is it wasnt just one. The commander shot 4-5 people this way. young guys
3: they could have been saved, transported somewhere, receive some help, but he simply just killed them
🇺🇦: and why did he do this?
3: I dont know.
TomWilm
(1,832 posts)Dmitri told his commanders that he refused to rejoin the invasion. They were furious. But they eventually calmed down because there wasnt much they could do, he said.
He was soon transferred to Belgorod, a Russian city close to the border with Ukraine, where he has been stationed since. I have served for five years in the army. I will serve my remaining time and then I am out of here, he said. We arent officially in a state of war, so they could not force me to go.
This is a result of the Kremlins political decision not to formally declare war on Ukraine. Under Russian military rules, troops who refuse to fight in Ukraine can face dismissal but cannot be prosecuted, said Mikhail Benyash, a lawyer who has been advising soldiers who choose that option.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/12/they-were-furious-the-russian-soldiers-refusing-to-fight-in-ukraine